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Post by HeadMarshal on Nov 3, 2014 18:36:22 GMT -5
This has been touched on many times before but with a 1/12 success rate of the season one cases becoming direct captures, that result was pretty bad now that I think about it to be honest. It's good that Charles Modzir won't be able to harm anymore children but season two must get better results with the format they have to work with. I may have touched upon this earlier, but In the first few seasons of AMW, the half-hour episodes usually aired only two cases and they had far better results with fugitives being captured. The Hunt has the potential to do the same, but perhaps a bigger focus on more recent fugitives that are probably still in the US would be a better option.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 3, 2014 19:03:52 GMT -5
I always hate to be the guy who says I told you so- but I warned one fugitive an episode would make it hard to capture more fugitives. I also think one problem was only 8 episodes and hopefully CNN will have more in the next season- but the shows are expensive to produce and even Anthony Bourdain's show which although slightly slipping has been their best performing show only has 8 episodes a season. But and I know we're spoiled- but if The Hunt was a year-round show like AMW was on Fox that showed at least a rerun a week in a scheduled time slot it might not be as bad. (It might hurt ratings but perhaps moving The Hunt to Saturdays and having it year-round with or without reruns where CNN shows nothing but reruns anyway might be an option).
The Hunt is in a weird catch-22 situation. I was an AMW fan since 1996. But I'm going to be honest. The Hunt is a better show. At least better than AMW has been since 2010. That is probably because they focus on less cases. But they also will have significantly less captures because of this format. So it's basically a "better-quality, more detailed show, less captures" vs. "lower-budget, fewer details show with more captures" dilemma when comparing the two.
John Walsh did say The Hunt was going to evolve as they go along. Perhaps even he will take into account Mozdir was their only capture and will slightly change the format (once again though you would be changing a successful formula ratings-wise).
I think viewers love fugitive shows and even AMW performed decently for a Friday night on a network that in retrospect was a terrible fit, and it might not matter if they show a few more fugitives. Who knows.
But yeah maybe the case selection needs to be more recent. No more Thayne Smikas and Guillermo Ballesteros (or do one of them), more cases from 2010-2014. We'll see.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 10, 2014 16:21:18 GMT -5
I've said it before and I'll say it again, people need to relax that we haven't heard news on The Hunt returning yet. This isn't AMW when Fox and Lifetime were in a contract dispute. They are in "normal" contract negotiations this time. Any show, even successful ones, don't take just a week hammering out a new contract because financials, legal mumbo jumbo etc. need to be worked on. I have been promised the inside scoop from a source once the contract is signed. But an even better sign to assure everyone. I found an interview from just 3 days ago with Ted Schillinger- one of the Executive Producers of The Hunt with John Walsh. He talks about the show and the process of working on it. Obviously, a guy discussing the show just three days ago doesn't sound like it's in danger of being cancelled. What I also find promising is this quote: "Our team will range in size from about 15 in the quiet weeks to about 50 when all sixteen shows are cooking." I hope this means that next season will be sixteen shows. (Perhaps he could have meant sixteen shows combined in two seasons). I don't know about others, I personally will no longer care that it's only 1-2 fugitives an episode if that's the case. I think it was only a problem in the first season since there were so few episodes. 16 is a pretty lengthy season for a CNN show if that's what he meant. I'm sure they'll capture more than one guy next time if that's the case. And will eventually get their first "living" capture. zpzproduction.tumblr.com/
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Post by HeadMarshal on Nov 10, 2014 18:13:06 GMT -5
If there are 16 episodes for Season 2, then the problem of there being only 1-2 cases per episode wouldn't be that big an issue then. Thanks Scumhunter for finding that interview!
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 10, 2014 18:20:22 GMT -5
I'm hoping that's what he meant and not that it would be a combined sixteen episodes after the next round of 8. We'll see LOL.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 17, 2014 9:43:14 GMT -5
This has been touched on many times before but with a 1/12 success rate of the season one cases becoming direct captures, that result was pretty bad now that I think about it to be honest. It's good that Charles Modzir won't be able to harm anymore children but season two must get better results with the format they have to work with. I may have touched upon this earlier, but In the first few seasons of AMW, the half-hour episodes usually aired only two cases and they had far better results with fugitives being captured. The Hunt has the potential to do the same, but perhaps a bigger focus on more recent fugitives that are probably still in the US would be a better option. The fact that two of ten fugitives wound up dead complicates this now. On one hand, we can now say we can't really judge the 1-2 fugitive an episode format capture success rate, considering at least two, if not more, were possibly dead before they were even aired (Miller probably was, although we don't know yet about Stoeser). But on the other hand, it also proves you never know what has happened with these fugitives, and it's better to air more cases because of unforeseen circumstances possibly lessening the chances.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 21, 2014 12:59:50 GMT -5
The Hunt is supposed to come back around April of 2015 according to a Facebook fan page I belong to. It looks good and I have confirmed that is the timeline but I have now learned it is NOT official just yet. I will update when it is but it looks very good! Once the official announcement is made, then I'll start the thread for season 2 that I deleted LOL P.S. As mentioned in his thread, our forum exclusive fugitive Matthew Dion is scheduled to be aired on season 2 if and scratch if- when it officially happens.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 23, 2014 22:05:22 GMT -5
Saw another Facebook post claiming The Hunt is actually coming back on March 1st. So someone says March, another person says April. Hey, at least this must mean odds look good that it is coming back. And regardless of when it comes back, it seems the Matt Dion case will be shown in April. Assuming he isn't caught before then. (I still am waiting to see what The Hunt does if a fugitive is captured before airing, which based on averages might actually happen next season). www.facebook.com/Rotary7680
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Post by HeadMarshal on Nov 23, 2014 22:44:47 GMT -5
Well at least March is earlier than April. I admit that Dion would have been good as one of the first fugitives of the season profiled, but oh well.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 23, 2014 22:46:50 GMT -5
Dion would make a great debut fugitive, but an even better one would be Alexander Hill Jr. should they choose to air his case.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 26, 2014 17:55:34 GMT -5
A point I made in Chris Ponce's thread is I hope they put The Hunt season 1 on Netflix. Some people don't have cable, and with the invention of Roku, Chromecast and Amazon Fire TV boxes/sticks/etc. many people are getting rid of cable altogether. Lifetime before their contract dispute with Fox would air AMW online the Monday or Tuesday afterwards. CNN only did that for the Shane Miller episode. We really need more eyes. Netflix did put Anthony Bourdain's show on there I think so hopefully they will do the same for The Hunt. And if they do, and you have a Netflix subscription, let your trusted friends and family borrow your e-mail and password so they can see these scumbags faces as well. (Sorry Netflix, I'll also suggest free trials )
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 26, 2014 18:06:15 GMT -5
P.S. According to my tvguide, we do have some good news for those who want to watch season 1 again. There is a Hunt marathon scheduled for Saturday at 7 PM running through 2 am on CNN. This is of course assuming no breaking news happens (which can't be guaranteed at this point with the craziness going on across the country). This marks the first time since September we'll have hopefully seen The Hunt on tv!
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 29, 2014 11:12:50 GMT -5
I've mentioned elsewhere but I've seen articles listing "The Hunt season 2" as in production. I also read a Twitter follower claim she shot an episode for a case. Basically, it seems season 2 is already in Production. Only problem is I'm unsure of the exact date as apparently it can be as early as March 1st according to one Facebook posting or in April according to another. Once I find out a definite return date, I'll make an "Upcoming in Season 2" thread (unless there's enough news on possible new cases it makes sense to make one sooner).
I'd like to ask we still use this thread to discuss season 1, and wait for the season 2 thread to comment on what we believe to be upcoming.
I personally am looking forward to seeing if they stick in the updated news on some of the cases on the marathon tonight (which is why I have my fingers crossed they play the whole marathon).
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 29, 2014 19:28:49 GMT -5
They updated that Stoeser died! Feels good.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 29, 2014 19:30:44 GMT -5
Also, the young girl Stoeser was trying to send text messages to interviewed on the show said "It bothers me the most that I don't know where Kevin is, or if he's alive even." Very perceptive young woman.
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