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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 20, 2019 17:47:07 GMT -5
Running out of possible fugitives from the tip form for April 3rd season finale. Wondering if there may be a surprise fugitive not on the tip form. You’re correct Scumhunter! I’ve checked and JW will be featuring FBI Featured Fugitive Edgardo Luis Perez before Callahan profiles Christopher Deininger. I should clarify I already knew about Deininger based on that article about Callahan's cases this season and it was who during JW's segment would be the fugitive. Edgardo Perez is on the tip form. I was leaning towards him but didn't want to assume. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 20, 2019 17:49:28 GMT -5
P.S. Based on the above the remaining 15 seconds of shame fugitive can only be:
Luciano Ailon-Garcia
Lorenzo Kamanda
Joshua McClain
Stepan Zeytunyan
(And any missing children on the tip form are the remaining missing children segments)
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 20, 2019 21:23:05 GMT -5
I will recap what I can later (so far a good episode but not sure if I'll have a lot to recap) but just wanted to state it may be an ID channel thing but I'm kind of annoyed they have an ad banner for Claritin DURING the actual show. Is the commercials between breaks not enough? Sorry for the rant but just wanted to throw that out there for ID channel to consider as much as I love them and In Pursuit.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 20, 2019 22:11:35 GMT -5
Actually don't have much to recap except the background Alicia 'Lisa' Osibin is more bizarre than even the articles on her applied. She had a library full of murder mysteries and serial killer books and such wrote her own murder novels. I'm not sure what her motive was for killing Mary other than being mentally unhinged. I've stated on this forum mental health is one of the few times I have sympathy for fugitives because of my family background. However, I'm not sure what to make of Lisa. I'm not saying this as a racial thing and different types of crimes, but am I the only one who gets Malaika Griffin vibes from Osibin? She sort of looks like her and sort of both had a bit of a psychosis (Griffin wanted to start a race war according to AMW, while Osibin was obsessed with murder).
As for McLean, it was the essentially the same profile as The Hunt (well I think they spent like 5-10 minutes longer as I remember his Hunt profile was only like 20 minutes) but still well done. And they specifically mentioned a possible sighting in Toronto in 2012. McLean's been possibly spotted a lot of places as far as I can remember so I do find it significant they mentioned Toronto. The good news is they get the ID channel in Canada (where Butch Knight is possibly hiding as well).
Ok and a reminder next week Callahn is covering the manhunt for Ricardo Villanueva-Cordova so all of us on the forum really need to watch to support Michael S. Sanchez's family. (And they are also profiling Eric Monroe Jones, who is a really bad guy that needs to be caught as well).
I'm sure we'll talk in between then but remember next Wednesday same bat time and bat channel!
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 20, 2019 22:44:53 GMT -5
Question: Are we watching In Pursuit besides me and HeadMarshal? Just saying I'm trying to encourage more people other than me to discuss the episodes here since we're a fan page for John Walsh lol. If we can access it, we should watch and support it and watch EVERY epsiode, not just only watch an episode because a guy is on the top ten list and ignore the other episodes. This show should be our main focus while it's still in season. Just saying.  I actually didn’t watch the Lamont Stephenson or any of the other Except the first episode since my shift at work is from 1:30-10:30. I’ll try to get caught up on episodes 4 & 9 since they don’t have a lock. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 21, 2019 5:11:18 GMT -5
Question: Are we watching In Pursuit besides me and HeadMarshal? Just saying I'm trying to encourage more people other than me to discuss the episodes here since we're a fan page for John Walsh lol. If we can access it, we should watch and support it and watch EVERY epsiode, not just only watch an episode because a guy is on the top ten list and ignore the other episodes. This show should be our main focus while it's still in season. Just saying. I actually didn’t watch the Lamont Stephenson or any of the other Except the first episode since my shift at work is from 1:30-10:30. I’ll try to get caught up on episodes 4 & 9 since they don’t have a lock. Ah ok, my work shift normally prevents me from watching live and I watch via the app. (I got "lucky" in a temporary shift change this month). I posted how to watch In Pursuit without a subscription and other ways other than ID Go but unfortunately most of them do involve money: amwfans.com/thread/8265/watch-pursuit-cable-subscription |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Mar 21, 2019 15:40:27 GMT -5
I hope last night’s airing on Frederick McLean is the last time the victims and their family members have to be interviewed for this horrible story. His profile was very similar to what was featured on The Hunt, but it did what it had to do.
Alicia Osibin’s profile painted her appropriately, as an alleged evil monster who didn’t care about any of her relatives. There’s nothing more disgraceful than allegedly killing your own parent and hiding the body in a garbage can in the family garage. I feel she’s going to really stand out on a personal and character level to someone who watched her airing.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 27, 2019 22:38:17 GMT -5
GREAT penultimate episode for season 1 tonight. (tragic cases we know all too well that I wish never happened but well done episode).
Eric Jones we already knew was a dangerous alleged piece of crap, but they expanded even more. We already knew in the 90's he was sentenced for trying to burn down a house with three children in it, but apparently he was drunk at a party firing his gun in the air and then would apparently listen to the cell phone recorded sounds of him firing his gun in the air (I may me not remembering entirely- this is what happens when I'm actually home to live tweet lol). But this dude is in my opinion a scary dangerous nutjob.
I also do think there was not enough adequate security for Janina who was by herself working at that water treatment plant with apparently no cop or security guard with her.
And mid-summary... I just realized Callahan Walsh gave me and all of us a shot out on The Search Continues!!!!
Of course that shout-out is in reference to the manhunt for Ricardo Cordova, and once again the search for justice for Michael's family. And the cat's out of the bag now... I usually try to downplay how much this forum can help because I don't want to get anyone's hopes up as John Walsh unfortunately has to turn down hundreds of cases a week. But obviously, this forum played a role in helping get Michael's story on the air. (And I discussed the case with some researchers and producers for ZPZ last year). All I can say to anyone reading is I can't guarantee anything and it's very tricky in that I want to help everybody but if say 100 people asked for my help I'd probably drive them nuts if I sent them 100 e-mails for all 100 people but I can give advice as to try to get the show's attention or what they look for (in my opinion what they look for) etc...
But I also appreciated how well done the segment was and I was also glad to see how Michael's story resonated with viewers and how those who follow In Pursuit or #TeamInPursuit on Twitter were also just as outraged as us at the complete senselessness of this case, as Ricardo allegedly murdered Michael over a dog that apparently was not even proven to be injured now according to the airing let alone killed.
I also have to admit to Lisa that I did smile and laugh when you said you want to see Ricardo in person and don't care if he takes you out, you'll go out fighting. I loved that!
Congrats once again.
As for In Pursuit itself, only one episode left on an excellent opening season!
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 1, 2019 15:23:29 GMT -5
Hard to believe it's season finale time already this Wednesday!
Already people who can't tell the difference between SEASON and SERIES are freaking out lol.
I do agree with those disappointed because they wanted the season to be longer though. Not their fault of course. I hope now that the show has established some success on ID the next season can be at least 16 episodes.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 3, 2019 10:48:34 GMT -5
P.S. Based on the above the remaining 15 seconds of shame fugitive can only be: Luciano Ailon-Garcia Lorenzo Kamanda Joshua McClain Stepan Zeytunyan (And any missing children on the tip form are the remaining missing children segments) Well McClain was captured and Ailon-Garcia is the only 15 second of shame fugitive we know for sure is airing tonight so unless I'm not remembering correctly apparently either Lorenzo Kamanda or Stepan Zeytunyan will not be aired this season after all. Yet neither appears to be captured either. Also, I will not be able to do a review of In Pursuit until much later as I was on a temporary work shift change only for the month of March. (I lucked out as usually I cannot watch In Pursuit live based on my regular shift). Sucks I can't watch live any more but I will try to give my review of the show and season sometime after the west coast airing. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 4, 2019 2:19:52 GMT -5
P.S. Based on the above the remaining 15 seconds of shame fugitive can only be: Luciano Ailon-Garcia Lorenzo Kamanda Joshua McClain Stepan Zeytunyan (And any missing children on the tip form are the remaining missing children segments) Well McClain was captured and Ailon-Garcia is the only 15 second of shame fugitive we know for sure is airing tonight so unless I'm not remembering correctly apparently either Lorenzo Kamanda or Stepan Zeytunyan will not be aired this season after all. Yet neither appears to be captured either. Also, I will not be able to do a review of In Pursuit until much later as I was on a temporary work shift change only for the month of March. (I lucked out as usually I cannot watch In Pursuit live based on my regular shift). Sucks I can't watch live any more but I will try to give my review of the show and season sometime after the west coast airing. Will get to the episode within the hour but NEITHER Kamanda nor Zeytunyan were 15 seconds of shamers tonight as Devon Jay Anderson was a surprise airing. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 4, 2019 2:35:11 GMT -5
Well just my luck I go back to my normally less busy shift for the season finale but it actually turns out to be busier than normal. So apologies for the delay in getting a review in. 15 seconds of shame fugitives were Luciano Ailon-Garcia and Devon Jay Anderson I did like how In Pursuit was respectful of Gordon Machuk and the fact he was an older gay male and the young EddienPerez aspect in addition. Eddie Perez does scare me though in how methodical he seemed to be in picking his alleged victims. This is like William Greer in that it is a murder without a body case. Not making light but anyone else notice the Detective Callahan Walsh interviewed in the Chris Deininger case was named Brett Callahan? I'm hoping it's a sign. But what's crazy here is as a 16-year-old teen, Deininger even managed to convince a former police officer into letting him babysit his daughter. He also claims to have 29 victims according to that psychological interview. This is a guy who does not know when to stop so it concerns me wherever he is as to what he's doing to children. But yeah sadly tonight was the season 1 finale. Also I have sources now so please no one try to drive me too crazy asking about season 2. I'll ask myself when I feel the time is right, but not too early or too often to annoy the people I'm asking. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 4, 2019 2:54:18 GMT -5
Also an overall review of the season itself. Keep in mind I now have to admit while this is still an unofficial fan page, I still kind of know people from the show so I can't be entirely objective, however: -The obvious main highlight this season was the capture of Luis Frias, a U.S. Marshals 15 Most Wanted fugitive. Additionally, he has already plead guilty and is serving life so this is one of the quickest captures to receive final justice (aside from the ones killed in shootouts or died in other ways). -15 seconds of shame is back! -48 fugitives profiled!, even more if you count the parental abduction cases. -A John Walsh fugitive show is finally on a true crime channel! (HLN was a partial crime channel but still an overall news-oriented channel) And once again without being too harsh some negatives: -10 PM eastern is too late in my opinion! I hope they move In Pursuit to 9 PM whenever the day is in Season 2. I lucked out in March with a temporary shift change, but that was only 4 out of the 12 I was able to watch live. Regardless, people who work the next day may go to bed right after. So making sure we all get to see the show when we're not at max sleepiness I feel is important. -The biggest blemish one might point out is as awesome as the capture of Luis Frias was, the show up until now only had one direct capture for the entire season, despite airing 48 fugitives. The Hunt would have the same amount or more despite airing less cases. However A) There could be a capture or captures in the works we don't know about. Keep in mind that while some hide in plain sight, fugitives are more and more likely to flee the country these days. There are a large portion of fugitives this season, even white and black fugitives possibly in Mexico or elsewhere. Additionally, each rerun equals more eyes so we have to see the reruns hopefully being results as well. As well as airings in other countries scheduled for later dates. I am extremely disappointed and shocked there was only one definitive direct capture, but let's be patient with that. -The show did a good job with pertinent clues and my only critique is sometimes they'll a mention a fugitive may possibly have a beard, possibly shaved his beard, possibly dressing as a woman etc... with no artist photos showing examples. For example, when they mentioned Jihad Ramadan possibly wearing dreadlocks, I wish they had an artist rendering of him in dreadlocks. I've rambled long enough but I'm already psyched for season 2 and hope it comes sooner rather than later! |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Apr 4, 2019 10:49:19 GMT -5
I've seen all 12 episodes and I will address my take on the season as a whole.
- Overall, a much better first season than The Hunt on CNN. The profiles of the fugitives didn't feel rushed and they didn't feel too long either. There was enough focus on the victim(s) and what they represented to those who cared for them, alongside the circumstances of the crimes depicted.
- Most of the cases profiled were from the 2010-2019 decade which is what we were hoping for this whole time. Even though there have been to date one direct capture and two indirect captures, I am also hoping for a better percentage of results in future seasons. We may get one more direct capture since as Scumhunter mentioned, the final episodes haven't aired in Mexico yet and sometimes tips take weeks to be properly followed up upon.
- Unfortunately, we haven't seen any missing children recoveries that were aired on the show. I was expecting at least one parental abduction case at least to be resolved by now.
- I am in agreement that a time slot switch from 10PM to 9PM would be highly beneficial. Now that ID knows the series has a strong viewership, they don't need another well-viewed show the hour before as a lead-in.
- Anyone else noticed the focus on Los Angeles metro area cases? Not that I'm complaining but I don't really recall a focus on New York City or Chicago for instance at all. Hopefully those cities and others can be examined for fugitive cases going forward.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Apr 4, 2019 17:54:58 GMT -5
A small thing I noticed about the lack of direct captures on In Pursuit and it relates to Lamont Stephenson being in a homeless shelter as a fugitive.
AMW caught people from viewers at homeless shelters and restaurants, but how many of those type of places will air a cable channel like ID? AMW only worked because it was on the local FOX station.
Which leads to this point, what is the average socioeconomic profile of an ID viewer. Are there a lot of suburban women who make up the majority of the viewers? Compare that again to AMW who could get viewership from all economic groups since it was on a local FOX station.
We all know that crime is committed by all classes of society, but compared to “American Greed: The Fugitives”, most In Pursuit fugitives tend to be middle-class and below from what I’ve seen. If those socioeconomic communities can’t subscribe to cable on average then that’s a potential obstacle.
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