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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 1, 2014 12:14:04 GMT -5
I know I'm risking adding too many posts to this thread- but to clarify better- The Hunt will inevitably catch criminals. I'm sure they'll do a great job. However, not at the same rate per year as AMW with 8-episode orders, not because they won't be great at their jobs, but because less episodes means less chances to catch someone. Lifetime caught 44 fugitives in its' one season. AMW averaged a capture a week. Even 16 episodes a year is what? Maybe 25 fugitives a year if we're lucky? AMW was the court of last resort and could air so many cases even on Lifetime. With less episodes, it means less families able to get their stories aired for justice. But as you said, maybe I'm overreacting and this is just a trial run.  |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 1, 2014 12:43:06 GMT -5
Also with Genevieve Kelley only shown at the top of The Hunt site and not in the coming soon section, along with Jacob Wetterling, I have a feeling there are a few more cases that will be aired in the eight-episode trial run that haven't been announced yet.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 1, 2014 13:02:17 GMT -5
Just had a thought that if they extend it to say 13 episodes a season if the first run is successful it's not as bad. 26 episodes a year is still a lot less than 43 episodes but for example they're showing reruns of Anthony Bourdain's show now even though his season finale was a month ago. So if they expand the amount of episodes and show "The Hunt" reruns in the off-season (Lifetime did not show AMW reruns in the off-season and I had a feeling even if they renewed it they likely would have continued that tradition) it could still lead to more captures. You know what, let's just see how The Hunt goes and I'll worry about it from there. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 2, 2014 14:31:35 GMT -5
I'm annoyed that tvguide.com still doesn't have The Hunt listed on their webpage search listings. A similar site, Zap2it.com does have it listed though as "Murder in the Mountains" as opposed to "Shane Miller" in the press release. www.zap2it.com/tvlistings?time=1405296000 |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 2, 2014 14:50:59 GMT -5
That was from the zap2it description page on the episode. Maybe I'm being too critical but that sounds more like for a fictional drama series rather than a true crime documentary type show.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 2, 2014 14:54:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess the thing is a lot of us- me included- have fears that won't be answered until we see the episode (s). I'm hoping my fears will be alleviated as opposed to confirmed but we just won't know until July 13th. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 2, 2014 17:02:46 GMT -5
Another preview of episode 1 is available where they once again discuss Shane Miller. For those who missed John Walsh's brutal honestly on AMW, in this one he calls Shane Miller a "narcissistic, sociopathic coward" so have no fear. What I find interesting is Walsh looks like he's being interviewed as opposed to hosting the show. Obviously he's still the star but I wonder if this is what the style will be. Is this just because it's a preview, or will they show the re-enactments and stories and then cut to Walsh discussing in an interview-style format? www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2014/07/02/cnn-promo-the-hunt-trailer-episode-1.cnn.html |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 6, 2014 10:06:38 GMT -5
This is fitting since I added him to the site today, did some more snooping online and discovered Guillermo Madrigal Ballestero's case also known as the "Denison 11" will be aired on August 17th on The Hunt.:
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 7, 2014 16:01:52 GMT -5
www.mediaite.com/tv/john-walsh-previews-cnn-crime-show-says-congress-scared-shtless-of-tea-party-on-guns/New article out. It mentions that the show will partner with facebook to publicize the search for certain fugitives on the website. (Note: The CNN press release mentioned a facebook site link for the show but that link doesn't work). The partnership will also include regional amber alerts being sent to users in an area where a child has been reported missing. Mostly unrelated to the show, but Walsh also mentions that he would be happy to take up Piers Morgan's position as a leading TV advocate for tougher gun laws, such as putting GPS chips in every weapon and increasing mental health checks. He also says that lawmakers are "scared s*itless of the tea party on this issue. Mod note: Scumhunter and I have agreed not to have this issue debated on this forum any longer, because conversations regarding it can get absurdly ridiculous. I'm only mentioning it in relation to John Walsh. Edit: This topic made politico, this could get very interesting. www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/07/john-walsh-cnns-new-antinra-advocate-191643.html
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2014 17:46:01 GMT -5
I know I sound like a broken record- but my biggest fear is the show will show too few fugitives. (My previous fear- too many "foreign" fugitives unlikely to get caught looks like it hasn't been met.) It's not that I don't want Shane Miller caught as much as I don't want him to be the only fugitive in the debut episode. More fugitives equals more victims getting their cases aired and a better chance at a capture. The fact that John Walsh says The Hunt will evolve as it goes along gives me some hope that this is still a new experiment and even if the first few shows start out with limited cases perhaps it will wind up with more cases later on as they get into their groove. AMW after all started with a half-hour showing only David James Roberts back in 1988. And it also started mainly showing fugitives before evolving into an hour with a variety of cases. Also, as far as the gun-control thing, yeah, sort of off-topic but I'll compare it the old amw.com message board when they had moderators who actually patrolled the boards when it was on Fox. One of the John Schlump threads had gotten so personal and negative they had no choice but to delete the entire thread. That is basically what I had to do with the gun/NRA thread in this forum. I assume new posters may want to bring the issue up again, but it would need to be stressed over and over again to respect everyone's opinions even if they disagree with each other. |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 7, 2014 19:29:14 GMT -5
Just wanted to add that my biggest concern right now is that John Walsh and CNN let this gun-control focus overshadow the airings of The Hunt, which would really not be a good idea.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2014 19:34:18 GMT -5
Well I think it's in part due to media goading. They ask him his opinion on gun control so of course he's not going to sugar coat it. But I believe he did also say The Hunt will mainly be about fugitives and won't really talk about gun control. Hopefully the talk dies down soon so the focus can be on The Hunt.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 7, 2014 19:35:10 GMT -5
Well I think it's in part due to media goading. They ask him his opinion on gun control so of course he's not going to sugar coat it. But I believe he did also say The Hunt will mainly be about fugitives and won't really talk about gun control. Hopefully the talk dies down soon so the focus can be on The Hunt. Media goading makes sense, thanks for clarifying that. |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 8, 2014 6:37:57 GMT -5
www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2014/07/8548493/john-walsh-mounts-one-more-time-cnnNew article out. It mentions that because Walsh is now a 68-year old grandfather, CNN had Zero Point Zero Productions produce the show to take some of the stress off of him. The involvement of Zero Point Zero will allow for a "different take on fugitives on the run". It also answers the issue I mentioned yesterday that he won't use The Hunt as a "bully pulpit" for CNN Political issues after Walsh talked to the President of CNN, but Walsh still has the right to his opinion.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 8, 2014 7:41:05 GMT -5
I think this part of why, and I know this sounds like someone still in denial over losing their childhood show, that even though The Hunt is essentially a "renamed" or "international" version of AMW, I think it's possible AMW may come back as well one day. AMW was a Walsh productions show while this is ZPZ. Walsh was forced to do something different thanks to AMW getting axed but still he technically did leave the show even though it wasn't his choice (contrary to idiotic YouTube comments, he didn't "quit" LOL). So AMW and it's rights are still owned by Fox. Although Fox was the reason for AMW's cancellation due to increased license fees, the crime genre is becoming popular again, and if The Hunt is successful I could see them or another network wanting to bring it back with Elizabeth Smart or another victim's right's advocate hosting it. I just don't know if AMW would be as good anymore without Walsh and his trademark voice. In any case, it sounds like a tall order, but perhaps The Hunt is our "next generation" fugitive-show that will last for years to come. We'll see starting this Sunday! |
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