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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 28, 2013 22:33:03 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 28, 2013 22:34:58 GMT -5
According to what I read, it's theorized it was a robbery gone awry and not a motivated murder ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lane_Bryant_shooting ) but a Lane Bryant in a suburban mall does seem like an odd place to choose to commit a robbery. |
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Post by kingroman on Jan 29, 2013 6:43:57 GMT -5
the killer probly killed himself afterwords. thats my guess
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 29, 2013 7:11:34 GMT -5
The key here is the police description is "robbery gone awry." If he was Beacher Hackney and came in there with the sole purpose of shooting up the place, I might buy that theory, as deliberate mass shooters, especially in the work place, often kill themselves afterwards. However, in this case, it's said something went wrong and not a planned mass shooting. Perhaps someone tried to play hero and stop him. Perhaps he was so angry he accidentally pulled the trigger and then in his mind "had to" kill everyone. Perhaps one of the victims realized they knew him. There are plenty of ways it could have went wrong, but I don't think he killed himself.
It is a good example of why police are so adamant on catching bank robbers even though the public isn't as happy to see them caught as other types of criminals (I have to admit I am guilty of this myself sometimes. If AMW catches a bank robber, I'm happy to see them caught but I'm more happy when it's a murderer or child molester). As they argue, every robbery is a trigger pull away from a murder. This is a department store as opposed to a bank, but similar scenario. What was just supposed to be a simple robbery went terribly wrong.
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Post by kingroman on Jan 29, 2013 15:45:22 GMT -5
i still think they could of killed them selvs after killing that many people and not getting away with money
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Post by pakman on Jul 14, 2013 23:50:18 GMT -5
I've always theorized that one of the victims knew who the suspect was. He probably came in unmasked and when he realized one of the victims knew him he thought he had no choice but to kill her. That's what led to him shooting to everyone else. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the woman that survived was probably not the one who knew him.
One of the major problems with the suspect's description is that all specific details are things he could have changed that very day. The beads in the hair? Those wouldn't take long to remove. The corn rows? Get them shaved or hide them underneath a hat.
This case is just so frustrating.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 15, 2013 6:24:20 GMT -5
While I'm not suggesting that any of the victims were involved in anything illegal, it is very rare for a mass shooting like this to go unsolved for so long (although not impossible, the Browns Chicken Restaurant Massacre took 9 years to solve).
Keep in mind that the Las Cruces Bowling Alley Massacre is believed to be drug related, Mexican drug traffickers could have been involved in the 2005 Yuma, Arizona Massacre (my opinion), drugs were probably involved in the 2000 Columbine Subway Double Homicide and even the Littleton Bowling Alley triple murder could be drug related (one of the victims had ties to a meth ring). While there may be exceptions in other unsolved mass murders, you have to wonder if the true motive in this particular case was not robbery.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Nov 9, 2013 12:47:47 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 9, 2013 16:18:56 GMT -5
What I find interesting is it says company officials weren't aware of the slayings. I wonder if this means there was no disclosure law or anything like that.
I personally think a similar store may be too close to home (for example, in the 1990's there was a mass murder of workers at a Queens Wendy's and the store was torn down and replaced by a bank and a few small stores rather than another fast food joint. Another Wendy's or Fast Food would not have felt right). But it is nice to see the charity donation and moment of silence.
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Post by pakman on Nov 12, 2013 16:28:20 GMT -5
I personally think a similar store may be too close to home (for example, in the 1990's there was a mass murder of workers at a Queens Wendy's and the store was torn down and replaced by a bank and a few small stores rather than another fast food joint. Another Wendy's or Fast Food would not have felt right). But it is nice to see the charity donation and moment of silence. Something similar happened with another old unsolved case that AMW profiled, also ironically from the Chicago suburbs; the 1993 Brown's Chicken massacre. Seven people were shot and killed at the Palatine fast food restaurant. After Brown's closed, the building served as a dry cleaners and a deli. The building has since been torn down and is now a bank, of all places. As for the crime itself, it was solved in 2002 when the ex-girlfriend of one of the suspects came forward. Two people were arrested and convicted of the murders. |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Feb 11, 2014 19:27:33 GMT -5
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Post by profiler24 on Mar 2, 2014 11:50:29 GMT -5
I don't think the supsect is dead but laying low with a false id and living in another state. I have very rarely if not never heard of a criminal killing himself. He must have known one of the victims because he came unmasked in the mall. Also the apparence of the suspect could have changed and it doesn't help to solve the case.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 16, 2014 13:32:15 GMT -5
One thing I'm curious about is if former AMW fugitive and Chicago area bank robber Corey "Kid" Frierson was ever considered a possible suspect in the case. If you think about it, a lot of the physical characteristics match up and Frierson has robbed banks before, so why not a department store? The Lane Bryant killer is described as a black male, 6'0-6'2 between 25-35 years old with a husky build. Medium-dark skin tone. He also has braided hair with cornrows. Although Frierson seems to be a lighter-skinned black male compared to the Tinley Park sketch, his wanted poster described him as 6'0 around 200 lbs which is a decent enough weight to be considered "husky" in my opinion, and has a similar hair style in some of his picture. He also would have been 24 years old at the time of the crime, just one year before the suspected age of the killer. Frierson's bank robbery occurred in December of 2009 in the winter. The Tinley Park homicide occurred in February of 2008, also in the winter. It would make sense for Frierson to turn himself in if he thought he would eventually get arrested for something much worse than a bank robbery, say, a quadruple homicide. Also, Frierson's last known address before going on the run: Richton Park in Cook County, Illinois. Tinley Park? In Cook County, Illinois. Thoughts?   il-tinleypark.civicplus.com/DocumentCenter/Home/View/516www.nwitimes.com/news/local/illinois/chicago/corey-frierson/image_aba47af7-07cb-5b05-bbf8-a3aff2870571.html |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Oct 16, 2014 14:12:09 GMT -5
I never thought to match the similarities between The Tinley Park Killer and Corey Frierson up, but yeah a lot of similarities there. Good find!
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 16, 2014 14:20:22 GMT -5
I'll submit it to the tip line. Just a theory of mine but not a bad one imo.  |
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