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Post by danwind on Dec 7, 2018 20:29:02 GMT -5
I can't believe it's 10 years since the brutal murders have taken place and their killer is still on the run
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 5, 2022 16:06:24 GMT -5
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Post by TheWebDetective on Mar 18, 2022 14:17:17 GMT -5
Here's a video from the YouTuber Pandox on the case.
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Post by Maddog on Mar 21, 2022 1:02:08 GMT -5
Something I am curious about: were there working surveillance cameras inside Lane Bryant at the time? I may have missed it in a comment in this thread, but that’s something I am curious about. I know there was surveillance video outside of the store, but I am not sure about the inside of the store.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 21, 2022 4:48:21 GMT -5
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Post by Maddog on Mar 21, 2022 21:23:09 GMT -5
Gotcha. Thing is, they do have his DNA, and they do have his fingerprints. However, if they have fingerprints, that tells me this person has not been in trouble with the law before. Some takeaways I have from the case: 1) The killer had some level of intelligence. He was able to pose as a deliveryman for 15 minutes before he robbed the store. He was largely able to keep everyone’s guard down until that point. 2) The fact that it’s suspected he was trying to accumulate as many hostages as possible tells me he was desperate for money. I don’t think it was necessarily due to drugs, either. He was able to plan this out thoroughly, and someone on drugs would act more spontaneously. 3) I am almost wondering if he had visited the store before the murders. The reason I say that: It just seems odd that he would hit the one store without security cameras in 2008 (a time when surveillance cameras, although not as widely accessible today (I.e. Ring camera systems, etc.), they were still extremely common in most stores. 4) Assuming this person has never been arrested, then DNA is the best available tool. However, it almost sounds like they do not have enough of a sample for testing, because if they did, we would likely have seen a suspect arrested (possibly through DNA family tree testing). 5) I believe the composite is likely accurate. Keep in mind: the killer was in the store for 40 minutes, so the survivor likely got a very good look at him. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 5, 2023 13:04:17 GMT -5
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Post by catchumall on Aug 23, 2023 10:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by Maddog on Nov 6, 2023 22:34:35 GMT -5
Just a hunch, and I know I am playing amateur psychological profiler here, but I suspect that the killer was not from the area, but did travel to Tinley Park and the Chicago area frequently either for business or family reasons. The reason I say this is because of a famous case where psychological profiling was used: the case of Jacob Wetterling. The FBI, when re-evaluating the case believed the kidnapper (and as we found out, killer), was local because he wore a mask to the abduction. Dan Heinrichs was indeed a local resident at the time of the kidnapping.
There is also the case of the Las Cruces Bowling Alley Massacre: the shooters in that case were not wearing masks and showed their faces throughout the robbery. We know that a Detective assigned to the case has said he believes the killers were sent from out of State to commit that horrible crime.
Here, the killer didn’t wear a mask, either, but he was able to flee the scene very quickly, despite the rapid response by the police. The fact that he wore a mask tells me he wasn’t from the area, but traveled there frequently and to me, that’s the only explanation I can think of. If he grew up in Tinley Park and moved away only to return after 20-25 years, a lot of things will have changed at that point and he’s not going to be as familiar with the area. What I would like to know is if the killer left behind any money. If he did, to me, that indicates either an orchestrated hit or a thrill killing.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 9, 2023 13:37:51 GMT -5
It's a good hypothesis, although I think yours and my definition of not from the area may differ. Like I can see him being from Gary Indiana or a Chicago suburb that's sort of close enough to the area but not really, but further states away from that midwest cluster of Wisconsin/Indiana/Illinois where there's plenty of cities driving distance to Chicago I don't see as likely. (So Gary or Milwaukee but not Minneapolis if that makes sense).
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Post by Maddog on Nov 16, 2023 8:10:03 GMT -5
It's a good hypothesis, although I think yours and my definition of not from the area may differ. Like I can see him being from Gary Indiana or a Chicago suburb that's sort of close enough to the area but not really, but further states away from that midwest cluster of Wisconsin/Indiana/Illinois where there's plenty of cities driving distance to Chicago I don't see as likely. (So Gary or Milwaukee but not Minneapolis if that makes sense). Oh, yeah. I definitely see where you are coming from, and that makes a ton of sense, too. Basically, he was familiar enough with the area where he could flee very rapidly and avoid capture, but I think if he were a local resident, he would’ve been recognized by now from the composite. It makes sense, though if it was someone from a neighboring city, though, like Gary or Milwaukee, because they probably didn’t receive as much publicity there. |
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Post by Maddog on Jan 17, 2024 15:53:43 GMT -5
Anyone else think this sketch should be submitted to AI Witness Report? One of the sketches is 3-D, but I was curious what others thought.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 17, 2024 19:55:52 GMT -5
Anyone else think this sketch should be submitted to AI Witness Report? One of the sketches is 3-D, but I was curious what others thought. There’s no downside to doing it so sure why not. |
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Post by outlawtaco on Oct 20, 2024 7:18:21 GMT -5
Fox news is reporting that tinley park killer has been given a criminal profiler case the profiler said some key hypothetical facts they believe he has prior experience in the delivery service they believe he's not from tinley park but one of the larger cities possibly Chicago or other major suburban cuties the believe he was battling addiction possibly desperate for money and he also says possibly "ganged up" he says the police are still believing he is still alive and believe he's still in the Chicagoland area
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Post by outlawtaco on Oct 20, 2024 7:38:06 GMT -5
Also two detectives have been reassigned to the case to finally bag him they also suspect he may have killed before and possibly after this mass murder do to his behavior and was calm enough to not wear a mask but according to the article the tinley park PD think he was very inexperienced at robbing places it's on the cusp of being solved and may only be a matter of time before he's being taken to the cook county jail
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