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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 29, 2019 23:32:52 GMT -5
All good insights so far. The only thing I would like to slightly respectfully disagree with is the idea that leads have dried up. Numerous articles have stated that authorities over the past few years are getting tips on Palmer from not over the U.S. but overseas as well. That doesn't mean tips always pan out. America's Most Wanted supposedly had very credible leads of Beacher Hackney dressed as a woman (I think in some midwestern state not sure), when it turned out he was dead the entire time. However, they are receiving numerous leads, and the only thing we don't know is their validity. ... As far as the dead vs. alive debate, I think similar to Robert Fisher, on the surface he would appear dead before you factor in other clues. Old man, needs meds out in the woods etc... And similar to Robert Fisher I changed my mind after looking at further evidence. In Palmer's case, what changed my mind was seeing what in my opinion such little sh**s his sons were in their interviews on The Hunt. They basically blamed Tammy for her death and seemed to lead authorities on a wild goose chase, pointing them in ine direction instead of another etc... If it weren't for his sons, I would think he was dead. But their ugliness in that interview changed my mind to 60-40 in favor of Palmer being alive. Not to mention, Palmer was said to be in great shape for his age. Being 70 years old in the 2010s is a lot different than being 70 years old in 1920 thanks to modern medicine. His conditions on The Hunt were said to be not as serious and a hit exaggerated. Palmer is pushing an age where he can pass away anyway. But from the sounds of it he was actually a relatively in-shape guy and not the feeble old man his sons or others may want us to believe he is. Investigators during the press conference that Eugene Palmer could be getting help, the fact that they said they were focusing on Upstate New York and Florida says a lot that leads haven’t dried up. Looking back, given the way Eugene’s sons were talking and acting during the interview on The Hunt, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are helping their father or they know something about where he may be. |
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Post by Scumhunter on May 29, 2019 23:44:49 GMT -5
Well I want to be careful and tread lightly about accusing family members or anyone else not formally charged of any criminal wrongdoing.
Granted, it was me who brought them up and I acknowledge that, but I do want to warn all of us as well to please be careful when it comes to this aspect and for any fugitive case when it comes to accusing family members. (An exception would be a case where it's pretty much proven family helped or is helping someone hide, such as the Jihad Ramadan manhunt featured on In Pursuit in which authorities found letters from Jihad to his family in his parents house or the Jesus Salazar manhunt where it was stated authorities believe Jesus' father helicoptered him from Florida to Venezuela).
I am allowed to state my opinion and it is simply my opinion that the sons know more than they are letting on and my opinion they were only pretend-helpful when Palmer first disappeared and also my opinion that Palmer must be getting help from someone or received help to get to wherever he is if still alive.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 30, 2019 23:23:58 GMT -5
Well I want to be careful and tread lightly about accusing family members or anyone else not formally charged of any criminal wrongdoing. Granted, it was me who brought them up and I acknowledge that, but I do want to warn all of us as well to please be careful when it comes to this aspect and for any fugitive case when it comes to accusing family members. (An exception would be a case where it's pretty much proven family helped or is helping someone hide, such as the Jihad Ramadan manhunt featured on In Pursuit in which authorities found letters from Jihad to his family in his parents house or the Jesus Salazar manhunt where it was stated authorities believe Jesus' father helicoptered him from Florida to Venezuela). I am allowed to state my opinion and it is simply my opinion that the sons know more than they are letting on and my opinion they were only pretend-helpful when Palmer first disappeared and also my opinion that Palmer must be getting help from someone or received help to get to wherever he is if still alive. During the press release they did mention they checked out some property within the State of New York in relation to the Eugene Palmer manhunt. Also off topic, but I’m glad Palmer’s on the list since he’s been on the run for only a few years rather than Brad Bishop who’s been on the run for 40+. As much as I miss having Bishop on the list and even more so since he wasn’t captured or found deceased as a Top Ten Fugitive. Sometimes through something negative comes something positive like the addition of Eugene Palmer and then hopefully the quick capture or location of him. |
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Post by Scumhunter on May 31, 2019 0:44:51 GMT -5
Just realized I never inserted Palmer's FBI profile stats so I just did that.
Some interesting clues are that he has a deformed left-thumb and is an auto racing enthusiast.
So just a note to our readers that if you see a seemingly harmless older gentleman enjoying a NASCAR race to take a second look.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jun 8, 2019 0:53:56 GMT -5
I’m actually curious what James Bruno (the guy who has written extensively on Brad Bishop and appeared on Bishop’s airing on The Hunt) has to say about Eugene Palmer’s addition to the Top Ten List despite Eugene Palmer being 80 and Bruno being an expert on the Brad Bishop Case.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 13, 2019 8:32:44 GMT -5
Well really the only common threads between Palmer and Bishop are age. Otherwise, the cases themselves are totally different. Bishop was a well-educated family man who traveled all over the world for the state department killed his family after not getting a job promotion.
Palmer imo was a more localized paranoid-militia type guy who allegedly killed his daughter-in-law over a land dispute. Completely different personalities, motives, time on the run etc...
The common theme here is the adding of possibly deceased elder fugitives to the list and whether it's a good idea (it didn't work out with Bishop, it's too early to tell for Palmer).
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 13, 2019 9:08:56 GMT -5
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jun 13, 2019 18:53:42 GMT -5
Palmer’s thumb is similar to a in the aspect that the FBI adds individuals with a specific trait sort of like Eric Toth, who had a unique characteristic. Brad Bishop has a cleft chin which would make him very distinct in a public crowd. It seems the FBI has been throwing a lot of spotlight on this case since he was added back on May 29. The FBI bumped him up to the top of the Top Ten section, then the following day they made him case of the week and subsequently he was bumped up on the Top Ten section again, compared to Arnoldo Jimenez that he was only bumped up on the Top Ten section after being added. Also here’s a question I have. Since Eugene Palmer was an auto enthusiast, is it possible that Palmer had multiple vehicles and had one stashed in the parking lot where he left his truck? On The Hunt they had speculated that he either got a ride or had a vehicle stashed there and same thing was said about David Burgert on the same show too. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 13, 2019 19:05:36 GMT -5
If we know the types of cars Eugene Palmer likes... One interesting technique crime writer Billy Jensen uses in using social media to try to investigate/solve a case is he'll post on Reddits or message boards that are related to the clues.
So instead of say posting Palmer on a Reddit "Unresolved Mysteries" thread, if any of us has the time perhaps we can post in a Reddit or car forum about his cars and such. (A little too time-consuming for me, but just an idea to throw out there).
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 13, 2019 19:06:39 GMT -5
I mean instead of posting on a crime forum, posting on a car forum. This can potentially be good ideas for other cases too.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jun 13, 2019 22:52:49 GMT -5
That would be a great idea to get that ball rolling, more people on those forums would be aware of Eugene Palmer.
I’m gonna say if Palmer used a second car to get out of the woods, he more than likely would’ve used a cheap 4x4 like a Jeep or an old Chevy Blazer or Ford Explorer. However it should be looked into what specific type of cars Palmer is into.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 13, 2019 23:10:04 GMT -5
P.S. Sorry I realized I never actually answered your question went off on a tangent because you mentioned cars and it reminded me of the unique investigating tip but I'm honestly not sure of the answer except I guess it's possible but he could have also gotten a ride or hitchhiked if he survived the woods.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 9, 2019 22:32:02 GMT -5
Recently I have submitted Eugene Palmer’s Case to be aired on the YouTube Channel show, Criminally Listed.
So far Robert Fisher, John Gentry and Brad Bishop, Antonio Angles have all been aired on that YouTube channel.
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Post by Maddog on Jul 15, 2019 1:25:19 GMT -5
You know, I’m wondering if Palmer is in a predominately rural state. Reason I say this is even though he lived in NY, he was an avid outdoorsman. I’m betting he’s somewhere where he could still potentially engage in activities like hunting, fishing, or even just hiking. I believe he’s alive - the FBI sure seemed adamant that he was when he was listed. It was also revealed that they had info he fled NY. Wonder what that info was, but I doubt we will ever know due to investigative purposes.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 15, 2019 1:30:22 GMT -5
Arizona and Colorado were two states articles mentioned he could possibly be in, and he can do those activities in those areas.
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