The Politics Thread

Thank you for this. Also if I can go on an off-topic rant, as you said, voting is absolutely necessary but I wish liberals could learn to take W’s and not doom all the time when they can. There are so many polls showing Harris ahead now and even talk of her possibly being competitive in Florida Texas and Ohio and all I see are liberal doomers about how Hillary was supposed to win in 2016 and how Trump didn’t lose as badly as everyone thought he would in 2020 and it was a relatively close race between him and Biden.

Hillary was a terrible candidate and everyone was turned off but her personality and anointing herself Queen like it was her god given right to be President one day. In fairness, she wasn’t entirely evil, but republicans ran a smear campaign against her for 20 years. They nominated a person that inspired conservative voters to vote against her, much the same way in 2020 it was sort of voting against Trump than voting for Biden.

Democrats have been overperforming in most polls since then and lots of Trump supporters have died off from covid.

That’s not to say don’t vote. Polls don’t matter vote. Don't get too complacent- I will be forerver worried about Trump until the day he's no longer a nominee (or god forbid in political office again) and hate to say it- feel Trumpism won't die until he finally dies (but it should be natural causes and I would have not condoned had Thomas Crooks' attempt actually succeeded) but enough with treating Trump like he’s some magical boogeyman. Democrats have overperformed expectations as well.

It’s a matter of getting everyone you know to vote especially in the swing states. I am forever worried about Trump and that he does have a large base of loyal voters but let's keep the positive optimism that Harris and Walz refreshingly installed as well and turn this sh** out lol.

Think you meant to reply in the other thread about the shooting but this makes sense in this thread as well and I agree.

Vital central American ally El Salvador who has been invaluable to capturing and fighting drug trafficking and stopping the flow of street gangs from getting more members and vital leaders in US custody and to face justice and while I don't agree with the current president of El Salvador I do think he's been invaluable in hunting down American fugitives and international fugitives as well even though extradition can move as slow as a turtle but I digress the El Salvadorian authorities particularly the leader of the police officer the whole country basically their equivalent of an attorney general here in the states Mauricio arriaza was killed in a helicopter crash alongside a fugitive wanted in connection with a mutli billion dollar embezzling scheme Manuel coto from the border of Honduras after he was detained by Honduran authorities anyway the police chief was en route to san Salvador to have him face trial but sadly the helicopter crashed shortly after taking flight every one including the chief and the fugitive banker were killed the Salvadorian authorities have launched a investigation and have requested international assistance now the gang crackdown has led to the gangs being down by 90% in his words it has not gone away but neutralized and I agree that a lot of them have been very much havent been granted due process and the El Salvadorian doing that is revoltingly horrific but thr reason i mentioned this is because the president suspects that the remaining gangsters don't have the capability as of this moment but I still think it's possible it could be a plausible theory but i agree it is suspicious that it just happened to crash with two hvis i hope if this was tampered with the perpetrators will face justice

The election is now in 3 weeks, and once again I advise everyone in the United States to please vote… VOTE VOTE VOTE, this is a very high stakes election, our democracy is at stake, we can’t allow Trump to get in again pretty much treat the presidency like it’s a toilet bowl just like when he was in office the first time.

In times like these with all these wars, and the tensions within the country we need a steady handed leader like Kamala Harris in office, who is capable and composed when it comes to making decisions, not a moron like Trump who may potentially light up the world in conflict and worse cause chaos and conflict within the U.S.


This isn’t a joke anymore it’s time to really take it serious and put country before party, put country before idiocy, because if we lose democracy, it’ll be very dark times and getting democracy back will be a long road once it’s gone.

Just saw the pre-Trump coverage of his MSG rally on the Meidastouch YouTube channel. The direct parallels of Trump’s campaign to Nazism seriously makes me want to vomit. And we are just seeing Trump speak now. There is no more important election where voters can make a positive change, and literally defeat fascism. If you care about living in a democracy and not Putin’s Russia, then please get everyone you can to vote. Your descendants will remember you as the generation who stopped American fascism.

I was kind of quiet here because I'm going to be honest- despite the polls trending towards Kamala Harris, I had a nagging feeling the past week that Trump was going to win the Presidency again and unfortunately I was right. I just didn't trust this country where the election of a black man caused racists to lose their and elect Trump in the first place to elect someone who was black AND a woman. (This is also why I didn't want Pete Buttigieg to be the nominee- a gay man had an even worse shot imo). I think it's telling that the only person to have ever defeated Trump in an election was another old white man.

The thing is Kamala Harris actually ran a pretty good campaign and to nerd out here it reminds me of Jean Luc-Picard's line on Star Trek "it's possible to make no mistakes and still lose. That's not weakness, that's life." Trump unfortunately has a large base of idiots that he got out to vote, and this country is still full of racists.

So far Democrats look like they might just barely take the house which is desperately needed to at least preserve some democracy.

And yeah I know some people say at least this wasn't 2016 but to me this feels worse because in 2016 we didn't realize how bad Trump would be. I can't believe our attention spans are so short that we forgot the chaos that was his Presidency. I'm also of half-Ukrainian descent while my Jewish father that grew up in World War II is battling kidney cancer and now has to worry about spending the last years of his life the same way he spent his first years.

Also, this forum is based on holding people accountable and getting justice. It is apparent now Trump will die never having to have answered for anything in his life. So it's apparent we can only hold people accountable who aren't rich and powerful. I hope there is some sort of karma in the afterlife since this guy who survived two impeachments covid, multiple assassination attempts (not that I condone those), a McDonald's and carbonated beverage diet, and numerous felony and civil convictions is somehow going to be the f***ing President again.