The Politics Thread

Well we finally have bipartisan agreement as both Trump supporters and those against his administration both hated Jeff Sessions lol. (The difference is non-MAGAites are smart enough to realize the real reason(s) Trump fired Sessions).

Wasn't sure where to post just wanted to share this Onion article since I think its' hilarious lol.

politics.theonion.com/inconsolable-jeff-sessions-tries-to-commit-suicide-by-s-1826462420

Update: Now that I've dealt with the previous person who shall no longer be mentioned by name (update, that person apparently will still e-mail the site since I received two more blobs of messages since which I deleted and didn't read, there's also another and separate/different reader who sends five messages a day convinced that an AMW fugitive is their neighbor who is living with the real Green River Killer, Jason Derek Brown & has John Walsh held hostage at a horse ranch so I guess with those two combined and others who send non-urgent and/or crazy messages I'm just going to pay for an upgrade to a bigger inbox so I have more space to delete and ignore their messages (it doesn't cost much but hey I'm cheap and only wanted to do it as a last resort lol), just wanted to post a cool and positive story where Ted Cruz and Beto O'Rourke, the of course former Republican Presidential nominee and rising star Democratic candidate who were in a surprisingly close Senate race in Texas, met at a chance encounter at an airport, took a picture and discussed how to move forward TOGETHER

www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/beto-orourke-ted-cruz-airport-encounter/index.html

This combined by with Republican congress-elect Dan Crenshaw's call for unity when he appeared on SNL's Weekend Update alongside comedian Pete Davidson (Crenshaw lost an eye in the war in Afghanistan for which he has to wear an eye patch, cast member Pete Davidson made a bad joke about it on the previous week's Weekend Update for which he apologized, which is cool but ironic considering President Bone Spur never apologized for insulting John McCain), is refreshing and heartwarming in an increasingly contentious political atmosphere.

I've said one of the if not worse things Trump has done is ruin public discourse. Believe it or not, I have/had conservative friends, which when we would argue about politics, would always do so in a respectful manner without name calling or insulting the other person. It was always arguing over the issues and never personal. Unfortunately, Trump has turned politics into the WWE and divided the nation where people get nasty and personal if you don't agree with them.

However, Crenshaw on SNL and now Beto and Cruz's come together have given some hope in increasingly contentious times.

R.I.P. Former President George H.W. Bush aka "41".

I know you guys may hate me for this but while he didn't get re-elected, and his Presidency seems pretty much viewed as a failure, compared to his son and Trump he wasn't that bad.

He was behind the first Gulf War, but knew when to pull out when he accomplished his goal instead of the mess a decade later after his son went after Saddam (for a much more unjust war looking for phantom weapons of mass destruction).

The economy also did seem to be somewhat improving under him towards the end after a recession (the recession did him in) and in theory he could have been re-elected if not for Ross Perot. (Ross Perot was a third party candidate but was more conservative than liberal, and he took what probably would have been Republican votes away from Dubya Sr.)

Respect to the man for serving his country and may he rest in peace.

This is something I keep wondering myself.

The Rogue President said he was gonna take the shutdown thanks to border security and then when it shut down, he goes on to blame the democrats.

In all honesty, I’m sick and tired of partisan politics, I’m sick and tired of one side being sleazy and the other being pushed around that I’m thinking about preferring an anarchist utopia than this divided garbage.

Also off topic and trying to find myself politically, I think that we should abolish county, town and, city police departments and let ordinary citizens enforce laws as a community group in their respective neighborhoods/areas.

Well Democrats get control of the house today and hopefully it is the beginning of the end of the shutdown and Trump's "Presidency."

The only reason he held the government and country hostage for the last two weeks was because he had nothing to lose- he would soon lose full control- so why not go out appealing to his racist base by holding out on his 5 billion dollar stupid wall that will never happen in the first place because there is too much opposition to it, it would cost way more than 5 billion in actuality (probably 25 billion on the 0.05 chance of a wall ever being built) and those determined enough would still find ways to enter the country illegally even with a wall. I've said in the past there needs to be bipartisan immigration reform- there are criminal elements that don't belong here that need to be gotten rid of and/or prevented. But there are also dreamers here through no fault of their own or those who have been in the country for decades that have been law-abiding citizens that are better off being given an easier path to citizenship instead.

Politicans on both sides need to stop the in-fighting and come up with fair and reasonable solutions on immigration reform.

Also this message is not addressed to any one in particular but wanted to make a few things clear for 2019 and for any potential new readers of the forum who for some reason may still support Drumpf no matter what and can't disagree politically while still being respectful of the other person's opinions. This site will always mainly be about true crime- specifically fugitive manhunts, although of course we cover unsolved cases with no known suspect and missing child/person cases.

However, just in case you can't read, this is the OFF-TOPIC section of the forum. This is the section of the forum reserved for talking about things not necessarily related to crime. The topics here can be about politics, sports, movies we're watching etc.

While admittedly lately I've been more politically vocal even in the regular sections of our forum if need be because of the threat I feel our illegitimate "President" who is only in the oval office because of interference from a foreign entity represents to our democracy- my political opinions are usually mainly in the off-topic section.

If a relatively moderate Republican like a Jeb Bush or John Kasich or Mitt Romney or whatever were President, I would go back to the previous site policy of being politically neutral regardless of if a Democrat or Republican was in office. I would still likely disagree with someone like Kasich's policies, but they would represent a standard politician where I could at least be confident they're at least competent enough to not drop a nuclear bomb if a world leader insults them on Twitter. Trump is as previously stated in my opinion such a unique threat to democracy I have no choice but to speak up when need be.

If anyone has a problem, I have a much more spacious inbox now! Send 50 messages if you want. I will still delete and/or just read and laugh at every single one. You need to bother me in order to win. And getting a laugh out of me is sorry to say for you not winning. Also, no offense, I'm in all likelihood smarter than you as well.

No one will ever get me to shut up and not speak out for what I believe in.

So once again if anyone- mainly the same people who called Obama every name and racist name in the book and questioned his birth certificate yet hypocritically demand I respect our illegitimately elected President- have a problem with my exercising my right of freedom of speech in 2019- I have three simple words for you- Go f*** yourself.

#USA #USA #USA

#2019

#AmericaFYeah!!!!!

Hey thewebdetective,

Believe it or not, I have friends who support Trump as well. My problem is with those I feel can't respect others opinions and disagree civilly. We'll agree to disagree but it's just my opinion that it is Trump who plays a large part in the erosion of public discourse.

And my problem is not with EVERYONE who supports Trump, but my last message was addressed to the MAGA crowd of those who support Trump and believe and never disagree with anything he says or does and use phrases like "cuck" and "libtard" instead of having a respectful debate.

I liked Obama but I did not always agree with everything he said and did and feel some MAGAites are basically like they are in a cult.

Also I consider myself socially liberal but still sonewhat financially conservative. The ultra liberal Mayor of my city wants to give us all universal health care and every worker in the city two weeks paid vacation. That all sounds great on paper but the problem is who is going to pay for it? Some small businesses can't afford to pay for their employees vacation as much as they want to.

So just for the record I do think there is a problem with the two extremes and I do not think it is good when someone is extreme left or extreme right and there needs to be middle ground.

I'm not a liberal but as a lifelong NYer who knows Trump better than anybody feels he's conning you and others and you will find out soon. Just my opinion.

You are a valuable member of the forum who has always been respectful and I look forward to your continued posting.