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Post by HeadMarshal on Jan 14, 2014 13:30:07 GMT -5
  Authorities in Colorado are trying to identify the man responsible for the baffling murder of Al Kite. AMW aired this case a few times, the first airing was in 2006. On May 24, 2004, investigators in Aurora, Colorado arrived at the residence of 53-year old Al Kite. Kite had been tortured and murdered to death. Bleach had been poured down the shower drain, probably an attempt by the killer to not leave behind any trace of who he was. Before he was murdered, he had been looking for a roommate to help pay his mortgage. Records mentioned that the roommate name was "Robert Cooper". The address, phone number and social security number were all false. Al Kite's girlfriend saw the man but not his face, she said he dressed nicely, walked with a limp and used a cane. Another woman said the man didn't walk with a limp but had a Romanian or Hungarian accent. Al Kite's killer used his ATM card after the murder, so when authorities checked the surveillance stills they found a man wearing a mask. Investigators found a note at the crime scene that mentioned the killer's or Al Kite's phone number (sources differ on who's phone), however the killer left the phone in an area with homeless people, so it was being used by the homeless all over Denver. All that's confirmed about this killer is that he's white, likely in his 40s, 5'10 and weighed 180 lbs at the time of the murder. There are other clues that may or may not be false. He may be from the east coast, most notably New Jersey, may have connections to the banking industry, most notably Wells Fargo, may be familiar with the University of Colorado Hospital in Denver, may dress professionally, may have a mother or sister that lives in Aurora, Colorado and may have attempted to become a police officer but was denied. Someone mentioned on another message board that the killer may have wanted to seem like Keyser Soze from The Usual Suspects movie. I've never seen the movie but Soze had an Eastern European accent, walked with a limp and has apparently been placed in numerous "best villain lists". The most likely explanation for this murder was that the killer wanted to commit the perfect murder and the killing was a thrill kill. It's likely that Al Kite was not this killer's only victim and a few other victim names have been mentioned in regards to this killer. I wouldn't be surprised if this killer was also a professional con-man if he's able to assume identities and possibly travel the US, looking for victims to kill. Admin Note #1: If you have any information concerning this case, our advice would be to please contact your local FBI office or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate. You can also submit a web tip at tips.fbi.govAdmin Note #2: If you have any news-related updates on this case, please contact us here: amwfans.com/thread/1662/website-contact-formblogs.denverpost.com/coldcases/2009/02/08/man-posing-as-renter-tortures-kills-homeowner/510/www.fbi.gov/wanted/vicap/homicides-and-sexual-assaults/victim-oakey-al-kite-jr/viewwww.colorado.gov/apps/coldcase/casedetail.html?id=193 |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 14, 2014 14:01:30 GMT -5
I never knew about the Usual Suspects-angle and that theory is very, very interesting.
I think this crime screams thrill kill. If the motive was robbery, he would have just shot Kite and took his card. He responded through craigslist, so obviously he had no reason to know Kite personally. The Denver Post article says the guy brought a torture kit with him and he may have contacted other people on craigslist.
The problem with capturing this man is everything he represented about himself- his limp, accent, etc.- could all turn out to be false.
I must say although AMW covered a lot of terrible cases over the years, this one really sent chills down my spine and scared the heck out of me because of the mysterious nature of it.
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Post by pakman on Jan 14, 2014 16:15:51 GMT -5
I remember a few years back I was watching Unsolved Mysteries and they profiled a case that was nearly identical to Al Kite's murder; it was the unsolved murder of Mike Emert. He was a real estate agent who was killed by a mysterious man known only as "Steven" who was interested in one of Mike's properties. Check out the link and see for yourself - it's eerie how similar they are! www.unsolved.com/ajaxfiles/mur_mike_emert.htmBack when AMW was still on the air I even emailed a tip in about this suggesting investigators look into any possible connection. They did identify a deceased suspect in Mike's case, but I don't think they've connected it to Al Kite. |
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Post by profiler24 on Mar 2, 2014 15:12:16 GMT -5
Authorities in Colorado are trying to identify the man responsible for the baffling murder of Al Kite. AMW aired this case a few times, the first airing was in 2006. On May 24, 2004, investigators in Aurora, Colorado arrived at the residence of 53-year old Al Kite. Kite had been tortured and murdered to death. Bleach had been poured down the shower drain, probably an attempt by the killer to not leave behind any trace of who he was. Before he was murdered, he had been looking for a roommate to help pay his mortgage. Records mentioned that the roommate name was "Robert Cooper". The address, phone number and social security number were all false. Al Kite's girlfriend saw the man but not his face, she said he dressed nicely, walked with a limp and used a cane. Another woman said the man didn't walk with a limp but had a Romanian or Hungarian accent. Al Kite's killer used his ATM card after the murder, so when authorities checked the surveillance stills they found a man wearing a mask. Investigators found a note at the crime scene that mentioned the killer's or Al Kite's phone number (sources differ on who's phone), however the killer left the phone in an area with homeless people, so it was being used by the homeless all over Denver. All that's confirmed about this killer is that he's white, likely in his 40s, 5'10 and weighed 180 lbs at the time of the murder. There are other clues that may or may not be false. He may be from the east coast, most notably New Jersey, may have connections to the banking industry, most notably Wells Fargo, may be familiar with the University of Colorado Hospital in Denver, may dress professionally, may have a mother or sister that lives in Aurora, Colorado and may have attempted to become a police officer but was denied. Someone mentioned on another message board that the killer may have wanted to seem like Keyser Soze from The Usual Suspects movie. I've never seen the movie but Soze had an Eastern European accent, walked with a limp and has apparently been placed in numerous "best villain lists". The most likely explanation for this murder was that the killer wanted to commit the perfect murder and the killing was a thrill kill. It's likely that Al Kite was not this killer's only victim and a few other victim names have been mentioned in regards to this killer. I wouldn't be surprised if this killer was also a professional con-man if he's able to assume identities and possibly travel the US, looking for victims to kill. blogs.denverpost.com/coldcases/2009/02/08/man-posing-as-renter-tortures-kills-homeowner/510/www.fbi.gov/wanted/vicap/homicides-and-sexual-assaults/victim-oakey-al-kite-jr/viewwww.colorado.gov/apps/coldcase/casedetail.html?id=193 A possible murder for hire killer that goes unnoticed by the ICE and with a fake ID. A lot of people in the USA, live under another name whereas in Europe it is far more difficult to get a new name and new first name and you must have a really valid excuse for changing them. Also what I don't get if the guy had a strong non American but Romanian accent how does it come that none from law enforcement checked who this guy really was and what was his real identity. Perhaps an eastern european mafia contract killer which is the most plausible scenario. The eastern europeans mafias are pretty present in the US, maybe Kite had something that the local eastern mafia mob wanted and they sent someone who was extremly good at planning the murder. |
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Post by profiler24 on Mar 2, 2014 15:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by HeadMarshal on Mar 2, 2014 15:54:28 GMT -5
I would prefer to not get my phone number involved in this case (or any case for that matter), besides I don't know if this "Mistie Carter" is making a legit claim or not. If she is, then someone could have contacted her already and she may have spoken with law enforcement. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 2, 2014 15:57:19 GMT -5
I completely forgot about this but I think she actually registered to join but never posted (I will take a look at the member list later). She wanted to post some article about a cold case murder in New Zealand she thought was similar because it also involved a Robert Cooper. She sent me the link but I was waiting for her to post it and honestly while appreciating the help didn't think anything matched up besides the name. The one from the article would be in his 70's today and had completely different height and weight descriptions than how Al Kite's killer was described. I will post the link below since it's been mentioned. I do not mean to insult Misty if it was her and she is more than welcome to post as it's awesome she wants to help. Just my personal opinion the two cases have nothing to do with the other. m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/can-they-solve-a-murder-mystery/story-e6freuzi-1225859927450 |
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 2, 2014 17:48:52 GMT -5
No one registered with the name Mistiebaker but the poster who did sort of wrote the same way. I can't confirm it was her so maybe I'm mistaken. In any case, at least the article the member wanted to post is now posted.  |
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 4, 2014 14:44:36 GMT -5
I have a new possible theory. A Romanian national wanted for a Louisiana craigslist scheme named Gheorghe Olar just surrended to authorities. I'm still not sure I understand what the exact scam was but it involved Romanian nationals defrauding citizens out of over 1 million dollars. It seems the fraud was done on line but not in person but a few things from this case piqued my interest. If you ask me, Mr. Olar, who is 49-years old (and would have been 41 back in 2006) can somewhat pass as looking similar to the Al Kite suspect sketch. The Al Kite suspect was supposedly in his 40's, 5'11, and 180 lbs. Olar was 41 and is 5'10. The weight is a bit off but it's entirely possible the suspect could have gained weight. Just intrigues me since he's a Romanian involved in a Craigslist scam, also in his 40's at the time of the murder, and can somewhat pass as looking like the guy in the sketch. Thoughts? Olar is on the left, Racu on the right is still at large:   www.katc.com/news/update-2-suspects-sought-by-us-marshals-for-craigslist-scheme/theadvocate.com/news/10525897-123/ag-reports-breaking-up-romanian |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Nov 4, 2014 17:42:35 GMT -5
I have a new possible theory. A Romanian national wanted for a Louisiana craigslist scheme named Gheorghe Olar just surrended to authorities. I'm still not sure I understand what the exact scam was but it involved Romanian nationals defrauding citizens out of over 1 million dollars. It seems the fraud was done on line but not in person but a few things from this case piqued my interest. If you ask me, Mr. Olar, who is 49-years old (and would have been 41 back in 2006) can somewhat pass as looking similar to the Al Kite suspect sketch. The Al Kite suspect was supposedly in his 40's, 5'11, and 180 lbs. Olar was 41 and is 5'10. The weight is a bit off but it's entirely possible the suspect could have gained weight. Just intrigues me since he's a Romanian involved in a Craigslist scam, also in his 40's at the time of the murder, and can somewhat pass as looking like the guy in the sketch. Thoughts? www.katc.com/news/update-2-suspects-sought-by-us-marshals-for-craigslist-scheme/theadvocate.com/news/10525897-123/ag-reports-breaking-up-romanianGlad you found this Scumhunter. There are actually a lot of similarities here. |
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Post by profiler24 on May 2, 2015 17:51:15 GMT -5
I have a new possible theory. A Romanian national wanted for a Louisiana craigslist scheme named Gheorghe Olar just surrended to authorities. I'm still not sure I understand what the exact scam was but it involved Romanian nationals defrauding citizens out of over 1 million dollars. It seems the fraud was done on line but not in person but a few things from this case piqued my interest. If you ask me, Mr. Olar, who is 49-years old (and would have been 41 back in 2006) can somewhat pass as looking similar to the Al Kite suspect sketch. The Al Kite suspect was supposedly in his 40's, 5'11, and 180 lbs. Olar was 41 and is 5'10. The weight is a bit off but it's entirely possible the suspect could have gained weight. Just intrigues me since he's a Romanian involved in a Craigslist scam, also in his 40's at the time of the murder, and can somewhat pass as looking like the guy in the sketch. Thoughts? www.katc.com/news/update-2-suspects-sought-by-us-marshals-for-craigslist-scheme/theadvocate.com/news/10525897-123/ag-reports-breaking-up-romanianGlad you found this Scumhunter. There are actually a lot of similarities here. Indeed |
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Post by Scumhunter on May 25, 2015 9:26:06 GMT -5
Someone e-mailed me asking for advice on whether a photo looks like the Kite supect sketch, they left a phone number but their e-mail bounced back. I've mentioned the website contact form links are mainly for people to give us any updates on the case we may have missed, it's not supposed to be us taking tips although we won't ignore one (it's simply a matter of feeling a tip shouldn't be ignored even if we didn't ask for one). As mentioned by HeadMarshal, most of us would prefer to not get our phone numbers involved for privacy/security reasons in this or any case but if the person's reading there is a link on Metro Denver Crime Stopper's website where you can upload a photo and send it to them. This is also good advice if anyone has a photo anywhere they think looks like the suspect: www.tipsubmit.com/WebTips.aspx?AgencyID=249 |
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 8, 2017 5:10:12 GMT -5
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Post by Maddog on Feb 27, 2018 23:51:03 GMT -5
The interesting part is that I was reading that the police have labeled this case as, "Unresolved." Whenever a case is listed as "Unsolved", it means that despite an exhaustive investigation, no viable suspects were developed. When a case is classified as "Unresolved" (and this happens about 80% of the time), there is a known viable suspect, but police either do not have enough to go to court, the suspect is dead, or he/she is a fugitive.
I could see this being "Unresolved" because we had several people who did get the chance to see the killer, but the killer did just about everything imaginable to destroy evidence (dumping bleach, throwing the cell phone in a homeless population area, and by wearing a mask during the ATM withdrawal). This quite frankly is a death penalty case if enough evidence emerges, and this case arguably falls within three of Colorado's aggravating factors for a death sentence: 1) Intent to avoid arrest; 2) Killing done for pecuniary gain (NOTE: This can be primary or secondary - we do know that money was taken in this case); 3) Heinous, cruel, or depraved killing. I'm not the biggest fan of capital punishment, but this individual deserves a death sentence because he poses an extraordinary danger to the public (heck, if the FBI finds out who this man is, I wouldn't be surprised if he jumps towards the top of the list of candidates for the FBI's Ten Most Wanted List).
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 28, 2018 2:39:07 GMT -5
Interesting as I didn't know the case was listed as unresolved as opposed to unsolved.
Another possibility could be if there is a known suspect not released to the general public but they're currently somewhere where they can't be extradited (a lot would depend on if this suspect was faking a foreign accent or not).
I would also agree this is a death penalty case if the Al Kite suspect is captured and convicted beyond just circumstantial evidence (DNA, fingerprints etc...). I too am torn on the death penalty. I'm for having one, but generally against using it because of the potential of executing an innocent/wrongfully convicted person. But there are some cases where the suspect obviously did it and the crime is so heinous it's really the only appropriate punishment. Yaser Said would be an obvious example if he's ever caught.
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