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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 4, 2021 18:55:00 GMT -5
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Post by ninja108 on Feb 10, 2021 14:10:32 GMT -5
Sad to say but there are many(not all) families in Middle East and Asian culture that view it okay to kill a woman/girl(s) they feel have brought "shame" to their family. In the eyes of most of Yaser's family, what he did to his two daughters was perfectly justified so it's not a shock to me at all they many of them were harboring him or knew where he was. May everyone who helped him flee face the punishment they deserve.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 10, 2021 19:26:05 GMT -5
I'm not shocked at all either when it pertains to Yaser's side of the family. But they're still pieces of crap.
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Post by ninja108 on Feb 17, 2021 23:38:51 GMT -5
I'm not shocked at all either when it pertains to Yaser's side of the family. But they're still pieces of crap. I will note Yaser's family isn't alone when it comes to protecting scumbags, as plenty of AMW bad guys/gals over the years like AMW Capture 669 James Bennett(child rapist whose mother would tip him off if she thought police were getting too close), Courtenay Savage and others had family members who hid them out, the risk they posed to others be damned. I hope punishment is delivered here unlike some of those other cases.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 27, 2021 18:37:34 GMT -5
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Post by Maddog on May 3, 2021 0:29:28 GMT -5
For reference, that is actually a very steep sentence for harboring a fugitive. Catherine Greig actually received less time than Islam.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 3, 2021 0:37:56 GMT -5
Good point. It is also still a double digit sentence.
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Post by ninja108 on May 3, 2021 13:50:34 GMT -5
For reference, that is actually a very step sentence for harboring a fugitive. Catherine Greig actually received less time than Islam. Yup. This is far more time then I thought he would have gotten, especially given the light sentences others have gotten.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 4, 2021 23:36:41 GMT -5
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Post by Maddog on Jun 6, 2021 22:21:21 GMT -5
Any word on whether the State of Texas is seeking the death penalty?
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 6, 2021 22:27:38 GMT -5
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Post by ninja108 on Jun 7, 2021 7:54:45 GMT -5
I agree they should have gotten more time but as you said it's a far lengthier sentence then others who have harbored fugitives have gotten sans Catherine Greig, who got nearly nine years in prison for her role in aiding Whitey Bulger stay on the run. Others have gotten a slap on the wrist. Oxygen just featured an episode about AMW Capture #842 Russell Winstead, who after killing his aunt to hide his gambling debts fled to Costa Rica. An escape aided his father Earl who used money from his murdered sister's estate to assist the man who killed her to stay on the run. And all he got was probation with jail time coming only if he contacted his son again, a joke considering what he did. Likewise with AMW Capture #1033, Courtenay Heather Savage who by a miracle didn't kill anyone when she pumped numerous rounds into her former business partner's home was aided on the run by her mother, who didn't seem to care that her daughter had made clear she still held a grudge against the woman she tried to kill. Even though she admitted to police she knew her daughter's location for a time and aided her on the run, she never faced charges. That could have led to people dying(thankfully it didn't) so her not being charged was a joke. Islam and Yassein won't see freedom again for another decade and for that, we should celebrate that unlike other cases, justice was served here.
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Post by ninja108 on Jun 7, 2021 23:45:23 GMT -5
I'm normally opposed to it but I won't feel bad if he gets it.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jun 8, 2021 17:32:24 GMT -5
I’m glad Yassein got the sentence he got he is an adult and chose to be stupid and help his brother, Islam Said was 19 years old when his sisters were fatally shot, he had 12 years to correct his mistake of helping his and chose not to, so I’m happy he got the sentence he got.
Overall I want to address something that has been stated in comments sections of this case for the past 13 years, and that is what happens to Patricia Owens? (Sarah and Amina’s mother) as many have said “she needs to be arrested for returning those girls to her father”.
This is something I’ve been thinking about since the day Yaser got caught, as I did not want to involve her until he got caught, the way many people see it is, that she’s morally responsible for returning the girls to Yaser, knowing exactly the type of monster he is, which ultimately led to their deaths and in a way that’s true, but you have to look at other aspects like Patricia Owens herself.
She married Yaser at 15, while he was in his mid to late 20s, that’s grooming, Yaser is a straight up pedophile for that and what he allegedly did to his daughters, regardless of how different of a society it was then when Yaser and Patricia got married, similar to how Famous YouTuber EDP445, who’s 30 was talking to what he believed was a 13 year old girl from February 2021 until he was caught in a sting operation by Predator Poachers in April 2021 (thankfully it wasn’t a real 13 year old). Patricia Owens is a victim of Yaser Said despite having been married to him, Yaser had complete control over her through fear, and the abuse she suffered at the hands of that piece of crap Yaser.
If Patricia returned the girls, it was out of fear or perhaps she felt Yaser had changed and it’s a common thing with women in abusive relationships giving their abuser a chance.
Honestly I get why they say Patricia needs to be arrested, but look at it from the other shoe as well, Patricia was also a victim too.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 8, 2021 18:51:54 GMT -5
I’m glad Yassein got the sentence he got he is an adult and chose to be stupid and help his brother, Islam Said was 19 years old when his sisters were fatally shot, he had 12 years to correct his mistake of helping his and chose not to, so I’m happy he got the sentence he got. Overall I want to address something that has been stated in comments sections of this case for the past 13 years, and that is what happens to Patricia Owens? (Sarah and Amina’s mother) as many have said “she needs to be arrested for returning those girls to her father”. This is something I’ve been thinking about since the day Yaser got caught, as I did not want to involve her until he got caught, the way many people see it is, that she’s morally responsible for returning the girls to Yaser, knowing exactly the type of monster he is, which ultimately led to their deaths and in a way that’s true, but you have to look at other aspects like Patricia Owens herself. She married Yaser at 15, while he was in his mid to late 20s, that’s grooming, Yaser is a straight up pedophile for that and what he allegedly did to his daughters, regardless of how different of a society it was then when Yaser and Patricia got married, similar to how Famous YouTuber EDP445, who’s 30 was talking to what he believed was a 13 year old girl from February 2021 until he was caught in a sting operation by Predator Poachers in April 2021 (thankfully it wasn’t a real 13 year old). Patricia Owens is a victim of Yaser Said despite having been married to him, Yaser had complete control over her through fear, and the abuse she suffered at the hands of that piece of crap Yaser. If Patricia returned the girls, it was out of fear or perhaps she felt Yaser had changed and it’s a common thing with women in abusive relationships giving their abuser a chance. Honestly I get why they say Patricia needs to be arrested, but look at it from the other shoe as well, Patricia was also a victim too. I don't normally like blaming victims but Patricia conviced Sarah and Amina to come back to Texas, possibly tricked them even, the way their return from their aunt was described knowing full well what Yaser was capable of and basically drove them to their deaths. The Hunt and The Price of Honor she gave a lot of contradictory statements. I'm sorry but while I don't see any evidence that makes her "legally" responsible (for lack of a better term, there's no smoking gun), I find her morally responsible. But yeah evidence-wise, there's nothing to charge her with- no text messages or anything etc... Doesn't mean we still can't be angry at her and how she failed to protect her daughters.
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