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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 19, 2021 17:57:53 GMT -5
With all due respect canineunit89, it seems often you are quick to post your thoughts or ask a question without actually reading these threads that have answered your questions or discussed your thoughts about a thousand times- and it's not like you had to comb through these threads as these have been recent discussions in the replies as well- We have posted multiple times on here and in this thread that this is the longest the FBI has taken since they had to replace Whitey Bulger/Osama Bin Laden. We have also posted theories- once again not to sound condescending but if you actually read the discussions in this thread as we've also discussed this about a thousand times as well!- and in very recent replies as well!- as to what's taken so long- but I'll summarize it anyway: 1. The last time the FBI was taking so long, they were replacing their arguably biggest captures of the century- it Yaser Said is the biggest capture since them. While it would be nice to have a new addition, there is also something comforting about seeing "captured" stamped over Said's face, so it's possible they want to milk their success for as long as possible/brag about capturing Said and show that captured stamp for as long as possible. 2. There were aiding and abetting cases with Yaser's relatives that just wrapped up. It is possible they wanted to wait to take care of those cases before adding a new top tenner. 3. There is a new justice department that oversees the FBI with a new Presidency that is settling in. 4. The FBI is busy with the Capitol riot investigation and that is their main focus right now. Finally, the way the list traditionally works is all the field offices from all the different cities submit a candidate to the FBI for consideration. From there, a publicity panel selects the case they feel is best for the list, so it's possible that process is still happening. Is it possible they just have their thumbs up their tuches? Perhaps. But there's plenty of other theories- which once again we've discussed in previous recent replies - as to what's taking so long. Another theory is due to COVID having gone through the second wave when Yaser Said was listed as captured in the first few months. Jose “El Gato” Villarreal-Hernandez was a state department case, so likely they didn’t need to go through the FBI publicity panel due to the possibility at the time of being exposed to COVID. The process of selecting Top Ten fugitives may have begun within the last few months or may not have begun at all, so that’s another thing to consider. That's another great theory I never thought of! I know we list Covid as an excuse for everything but it makes sense here so we'll put Covid as number 5 lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 20:07:24 GMT -5
Another theory is due to COVID having gone through the second wave when Yaser Said was listed as captured in the first few months. Jose “El Gato” Villarreal-Hernandez was a state department case, so likely they didn’t need to go through the FBI publicity panel due to the possibility at the time of being exposed to COVID. The process of selecting Top Ten fugitives may have begun within the last few months or may not have begun at all, so that’s another thing to consider. That's another great theory I never thought of! I know we list Covid as an excuse for everything but it makes sense here so we'll put Covid as number 5 lol. Do we think that any of the current Top 10ers might've dropped dead by the virus too and the government is going over all 600,000 people who died in 🇺🇸 From the virus to see as to which people are still alive or might be alive or are dead?
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 19, 2021 20:11:08 GMT -5
It's possible in theory but while not to downplay the deadliest pandemic in quite some time- this isn't like Avengers: Infinity War where Thanos snapped half the planet into dust. Most of us are still here, just too many of us went away.
And people die for reasons other than the virus- it's possible a top tenner(s) on the list is dead for a reason that has nothing to do with the virus.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jun 19, 2021 23:15:46 GMT -5
It's possible in theory but while not to downplay the deadliest pandemic in quite some time- this isn't like Avengers: Infinity War where Thanos snapped half the planet into dust. Most of us are still here, just too many of us went away. And people die for reasons other than the virus- it's possible a top tenner(s) on the list is dead for a reason that has nothing to do with the virus. I've been under the impression that, since they waited about 11 1/2 months between Osama "The CEO of Terror" Bin Laden's death in early May '011 and his replacement in mid April '012, that maybe they're waiting the exact same length of time after Yaser Abdel Said's capture 6 days before September '020 to replace him about 1/3 of the way through this coming August. I know it's a pity the Ten Most Wanted list is getting that much less use, but I understand if they're tied up investigating the 1-06-021 Capitol Hill Massacre. P.S. Avengers: Infinity War has a place of honor as #14 on the Top 40 Films of '018.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2021 9:53:25 GMT -5
I'm sorry but this is really getting ridiculous, they're upping rewards for fugitives without adding them to the top ten list, making press conferences with general updates without adding them to the top ten list, every time there's a sliver of hope they're adding someone, it turns out not to be.
I was the most patient person on the forum until a few weeks ago too lol.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2021 17:19:31 GMT -5
Then In Pursuit makes a Facebook posting "NEW top ten fugitive" but it's about Jose Villarreal-Hernandez, who granted is the newest one, but still lol. I feel like we're purposely being trolled right now lol.
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Post by Maddog on Jul 7, 2021 21:41:04 GMT -5
Yeah: I am thinking a decision is on the horizon.
It may be just me, but I feel like there are a lot of good candidates this time around (a bigger pool), and there isn’t necessarily a front-runner.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2021 22:33:31 GMT -5
I think that is what upsets me even more is there's so many good candidates they can add that they aren't lol.
I hope we will see a decision soon.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 8, 2021 21:20:26 GMT -5
Well if Devontay Anderson isn’t caught in a few weeks, he will more than likely make the list.
If Anderson is captured before he could even make the list, I could see Stanley Obas making the list.
One thing I will say is that through all this, I wouldn’t be surprised if they DON’T replace Yaser Said until 2022 or around the time he’s set to go on trial, and with no captures thus far in 2021, keeping his slot open makes sense. Perhaps the same thing that happened with the Marshals list after the addition of Markeith Loyd may be playing out on the FBI’s side this time around, where a new fugitive wasn’t added in over a year and a half.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 8, 2021 22:05:26 GMT -5
I do wonder what the record is for longest time not adding a top tenner. If they go past Said's capture date, this might be it.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 8, 2021 22:07:35 GMT -5
And yeah I get upset at people who want the FBI to update the top ten list the week after a capture and they need to understand it doesn't work that way. Heck I'm fine if it takes them six months to update, but this is a bit much even for me lol.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 9, 2021 17:29:26 GMT -5
Honestly the wait may be exhausting, but in the long run it’ll be good as they’ll add someone who they see fit and it could be someone that comes from left field (In this situation I’ll say John Gentry or Richard Bocklage will be the left field additions if they are being considered as they’re not on the FBI website and are younger cold case fugitives).
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 16, 2021 7:50:48 GMT -5
Besides Devontay Anderson Joe Constance and Michael Pratt as the three we've most discussed recently, I feel Adarus Black can't be forgotten since his manhunt was also a national news story and one of our few post-2020 fugitives in the Fugitives on TV section. That would mean they'd have two guys who were teenagers at the time of their alleged crime on the list, but although it hasn't been the case for Alejandro Castillo yet, in theory it makes them easy to catch.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 17, 2021 2:20:42 GMT -5
Besides Devontay Anderson Joe Constance and Michael Pratt as the three we've most discussed recently, I feel Adarus Black can't be forgotten since his manhunt was also a national news story and one of our few post-2020 fugitives in the Fugitives on TV section. That would mean they'd have two guys who were teenagers at the time of their alleged crime on the list, but although it hasn't been the case for Alejandro Castillo yet, in theory it makes them easy to catch. I feel like they could get Adarus Black if they added him to the Top Ten List. If Devontay Anderson gets caught or if investigators are onto him, then I’d say Adarus Black would be a great selection. Adarus Black is still believed to be in the United States, and the publicity of an addition will get him to surrender or get caught within days. Alejandro Castillo has been on the FBI Top Ten List for nearly 4 years now, I’ll post the reason for why I think he’s been on the run for this long on his thread. I’m just in shock that Alejandro Castillo (along with Bhadreshkumar Patel) have been on the Top Ten List almost as long as Brad Bishop and Fidel Urbina (4 years).
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 19, 2021 14:07:31 GMT -5
Well we got a new excellent addition to the U.S. Marshals Top 15 Most Wanted list in Derrell Brown, so hopefully this is a good sign the FBI won't be far behind.
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