|
|
Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 18, 2017 10:47:13 GMT -5
I had Patel as my contender for the top ten from the beginning of this case in 2015, however i don't think the FBI is adding illegals just because of the new administration, to me it seems the FBI just wanted to add difficult cases after having all 3 of their December additions captured not long afterwards and would love the same result in Gomez and Patel's cases. Gomez was unexpected but they were making him case of the week a lot in 2016 and earlier this year. Patel's case was obviously very dormant since November of 2015 and he is going to be featured on The Hunt so perhaps they wanted some additional assisstance
There is still 2 slots left open and i assume it'll go to Alejandro Castillo, Stephen Marcus Gilbert or Faustino Lara Valdez (U.S. Born fugitives) because they are the most recent in terms of crime.
|
|
|
|
Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 18, 2017 12:31:55 GMT -5
Okay so after watching the press conference, they pointed out 2 things.
•He'd be easy to flush out if he's in the states
•If he's in India it poses a serious challenge because of over population and being able to culturally blend in.
Also Terry Strickland and Robert Van Wisse remain on the Top 10 list so basically there are 11 fugitives on the list currently, maybe the FBI will remove Strickland soon or add an additional fugitive.
|
|
|
|
Post by Scumhunter on Apr 18, 2017 17:58:10 GMT -5
Hate to be a contrarian but the way I look at is there's 9 fugitives on the list and just two haven't been removed from the website yet. I have no idea why Van Wisse have not been removed but I wouldn't look too much into it.
I may be wrong but I think there have been rare occasions where more than 10 fugitives are on the top 10 list, but if it has happened, it has been extremely, extremely rare.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 18:47:59 GMT -5
This is my first post, but have been a long time reader of the forum.
I also find it strange that they have left Van Wisse on the website.
The Most Wanted List has increased over 10 members in the past - this is due to "Special Additions" - people who are viewed as extremely serious threats to the public, and deserving of a place on the list when there are no vacancies.
In 1970 there were 16 fugitives on the list at one point - mainly due to J. Edgar Hoover's crusade against left wing and student radicals, who were the boogeymen and women of that time!
That being said I don't think there has been a Special Addition since Ramzi Ahmed Yousef in the early 1990s.
Sorry for veering off-topic - on the subject of Bhadreshkumar Patel, I would agree that if he has fled back to India, he will be a very difficult fugitive to track down. In my hometown there was a case of a fugitive fleeing to India - it took over a decade to track him down, and such are the vagaries of the Indian justice system that he still has not been extradited to face justice, nearly a further decade down the line.
|
|
|
|
Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 18, 2017 19:15:05 GMT -5
Starting off with the FBI site not removing Strickland and Van Wisse.
I would think the FBI would have removed Strickland in order to add Patel, but he's still on the site. With this addition Strickland was the next fugitive to be replaced as he was the second one to be arrested. However it could be the FBI site glitching and they'll eventually remove Strickland or the FBI is planning a special #11 now that we don't have anyone that needs to be removed just like in the past with Gerena or Mogilevich. Robert Van Wisse will soon be replaced I bet.
Now onto Patel (sorry for also getting off topic) I agree that it is going to be difficult to track down Bhradreshkumar Patel if he fled to India, especially in that part of the world where you have overpopulation and the fact that he can adapt culturally.
Honestly we all should be grateful at least, that they placed Patel onto the Ten Most Wanted list 2 years after the crime rather than 7 or 9 years later.
|
|
|
|
Post by HeadMarshal on Apr 18, 2017 20:00:35 GMT -5
This is my first post, but have been a long time reader of the forum. I also find it strange that they have left Van Wisse on the website. The Most Wanted List has increased over 10 members in the past - this is due to "Special Additions" - people who are viewed as extremely serious threats to the public, and deserving of a place on the list when there are no vacancies. In 1970 there were 16 fugitives on the list at one point - mainly due to J. Edgar Hoover's crusade against left wing and student radicals, who were the boogeymen and women of that time! That being said I don't think there has been a Special Addition since Ramzi Ahmed Yousef in the early 1990s. Sorry for veering off-topic - on the subject of Bhadreshkumar Patel, I would agree that if he has fled back to India, he will be a very difficult fugitive to track down. In my hometown there was a case of a fugitive fleeing to India - it took over a decade to track him down, and such are the vagaries of the Indian justice system that he still has not been extradited to face justice, nearly a further decade down the line. Welcome to the forum elquemado, and thank you for being a longtime reader as well! I agree that even though there's a chance that Bhadreshkumar could still be in the US, arresting him in India would be very difficult. India is such a large and densely populated country, that under an alias, someone of Indian ancestry could blend in very easily. Being put on the FBI 10 Most Wanted List, may make this case a larger priority for authorities in India. |
|
|
|
Post by Scumhunter on Apr 19, 2017 1:46:29 GMT -5
Yes, welcome to the forum elquemado!
Not sure if this was the fugitive you were referring to but Amit Livingston, an AMW-aired fugitive wanted for the murder of his wife (who was inexplicably let out on bond after conviction), was arrested in India a few years ago after about 10 years on the run, AMW-aired fugitive Lakshminivana Nerusu was arrested about 6 years after killing his family (which is relatively short compared to some other AMW fugitives who flee to other countries), but both were captured in Hyderabad, which I believe is a decently-populated city in India. If Patel went further underground, it will be further difficult to catch him.
|
|
|
|
Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 22, 2017 0:55:12 GMT -5
Don't know if this is very far fetched theory but I think there is a way Patel could've made it back to India. He could've gotten in contact with some shady characters (likely in California) asking if there would be anyway he can go back to India without the authorities knowing, but costing him a ton of money.
How he would make it to India? A cargo ship.
A criminal group gets paid to take Patel back to India and is forced to live there for a few weeks with basic living needs inside of a container.
But also I think they do inspect these containers beforehand so who knows if Patel went on with this or not.
|
|
|
|
Post by Scumhunter on Apr 22, 2017 2:06:18 GMT -5
Rumor has it 'Hunt' fugitive Prakashanand Saraswati made it to India by his followers sneaking him into Mexico and then travelling by boat.
I don't think Patel belongs to a cult, but I still maintain he may not have had to jump through many hoops to get to India. All he had to was to get a fake passport and get there by plane. You only need one shady character if any to pull that off.
I also have a theory that Patel may be in England as there seems to be a decent amount of people of Indian decent there and AMW-aired fugitive Lovekesh "Bobby" Kumar was captured there before committing suicide in prison while awaiting extradtion.
(The Hunt will also likely air Peter Chadwick as well this season, a California murder suspect actually originally from Great Britain so it would be ironic if Patel is captured there before him.)
|
|
|
|
Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 22, 2017 10:13:12 GMT -5
The England theory is possible for that same reason. But about the passport part, I didn't really think it was that easy lol, which is why I came up with the container ship theory.
|
|
|
|
Post by Scumhunter on Apr 22, 2017 20:41:57 GMT -5
By my own admission, I'm not a "fake passport" export lol it's just it seems as a long-time AMW/Hunt viewer and fugitive news reader they all seem to get or make fake passports with seeming ease LOL. Somewhat off-topic but that's basically the way the government works- it's a bunch of bureaucracy and red tape for anyone who wants to do things the right way. However, criminals and those who want to take advantage of the system are able to with ease very often. Don't get me wrong, I still love you government if you're reading this and I'd rather live in America than some third world country despite the red tape  , it's just you guys are a real pain in the neck sometimes. |
|
|
|
Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 9, 2017 9:17:56 GMT -5
It's been 21 days since Patel was added to the Top Ten and again I know a capture won't happen overnight or in a month, but he has been elusive for 2 years and has grown accustomed to this life style.
Just wanted to remind people that if he's in India, he's likely to be in Gujarat state in the western tip of the country. Luckily it's one of few places where police corruption problem is getting better unlike other parts like Bengal. Like all countries there are good and bad things.
Also for some reason I feel he may be in Canada instead as he is a wanted fugitive in the U.S. and if he returns he may be humiliated and it'll cause outrage against Palak's family members if he's seen or heard living there, so there's a way we can debunk the India theory to a certain point.
Basically my potential locations are Canada, Hyderabad, India, & New Delhi, India and that's it I don't have anymore location possibilities off the top of my head lol.
|
|
|
|
Post by Scumhunter on May 9, 2017 9:48:25 GMT -5
We'll see what happens when "The Hunt" airs his case this summer. The following are where I'd list his possible locations:
-New York/New Jersey metro area (car last seen in New Jersey)
-Canada
-India
-England or elsewhere in the U.K.
|
|
|
|
Post by ninja108 on May 12, 2017 22:56:42 GMT -5
I do think it will be tricky to catch this guy but not impossible.
Let's see how it works after The Hunt airs his story.
|
|
|
|
Post by fugitivesearch on May 23, 2017 17:58:10 GMT -5
The FBI presser said that he would be easy to find if he had not left the States, but I highly disagree. I live in a suburb with an enormous Indian community and he would blend in easily here. Nobody would look at him twice if they saw him here, unlike most parts of the U.S. that have very few Indians.
|
|
, it's just you guys are a real pain in the neck sometimes.