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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 27, 2015 17:55:54 GMT -5
Also Walsh is turning 70 this year and basically said he was airing his most difficult cases from his AMW days this year. So I think it was partially a conscious decision where he went "I retired once. One day my son or someone else will take over the Hunt, so let me get all my dirty dozen from AMW out of the way before I hang up my boots a second time" or something like that. I think like you said this season's theme is sort of like an entire season of an "The Ones Got That Way" episode of AMW.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 29, 2015 18:21:34 GMT -5
Ok, this is weird, a few internet promos are asking us to help find Alexander Hill Jr. tomorrow, who was already captured in April.
Weird since they sent out articles about Johnny Napier already being captured and Paul Winklebleck probably being dead.
Maybe they want people who don't bother to Google being pleasantly surprised.
While I wish they had time to replace the case, I am looking forward to seeing how the story was told because of how personal I took it, naming Hill our Forum Public Enemy #1 before he was finally captured.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 30, 2015 10:59:30 GMT -5
CNN Go's Twitter just promoted the "SEASON FINALE" episode of The Hunt tonight.
WTF? We've already saw casting calls for 16 episodes. We know for a fact William Greer had a segment filmed on him. We know other cases as well.
Is there a one-week hiatus and the next batch of already filmed episodes will start soon and count as season 3?
Very confused right now. This season was supposed to be 16-episodes. If they're breaking them up into 2 seasons, then I hope it isn't that long a hiatus.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Aug 30, 2015 14:18:10 GMT -5
CNN would be extremely foolish to push back the remaining episodes to a third season, since the problem they keep running into is fugitives being caught before their episodes are broadcast. Then again, the state of the season's schedule has got me totally confused.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 30, 2015 15:22:35 GMT -5
It's just one entity. CNN's regular page, Original Series page, and the ZPZ page say nothing about a season finale. At the very least there isn't an episode scheduled for September 6th on the online tv guides.
I am still concerned though.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 30, 2015 21:08:38 GMT -5
SPOILERS BELOW.... Timmothy Pitzen case was interesting. I don't want to sound like I'm blaming the victim here, but is it me, or was the husband a little bit controlling? I understand Amy's situation but telling her she can't go on vacation, threatening to have the kid taken away, that wasn't exactly the way to treat a woman with depression. I feel a lot of people failed Amy and could have helped her, although it doesn't justify giving Timmothy away. I have my disagreements with the way the husband treated Amy, but at the end of the day, he is Timmothy's biological father, and Timmothy should rightfully be his. Alexander Hill Jr. case proved one thing. With all the talk about the Hunt and the slowed down format- they can do a complex family killing case in a half-hour and not a whole hour and still do it justice. I also loved that they had enough time to talk about his capture and show the different news footage of him- including him talking on camera to a Buffalo station. Also, unlike the other already resolved cases, there were interesting updates on Hill- such as him still refusing to participate in the court process or even enter a plea. (He also went on a hunger strike). This matches up with him refusing to even say his name was Alexander Hill when he accused Vivian in court of abusing HIM. This guy is still crazy, and acting crazy, even after his capture. While I prefer if time allows it a new fugitive case, I am glad this tragic story got to be told. Also, Hill never made it onto that Amtrak train. I guessed he made it to New York based on that Amtrak schedule from North Carolina. Turns out my pontificating was just luck.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 31, 2015 10:14:33 GMT -5
Just got off the phone with a rep from ZPZ. Apparently last night WAS the season finale, but it should be rerun going forward. I am still confused since John Walsh and everyone else said it was supposed to be SIXTEEN EPISODES this season.
I guess Walsh just meant the contract was for another sixteen episodes but the season wouldn't be.
The rep also couldn't comment on whether or not The Hunt had been renewed. (Which is understandable, it took CNN forever to renew The Hunt after it's very successful first season).
I'm still annoyed though. They just air the show as a season finale, no one besides the CNN Go app's Twitter account mentions that fact. Most tv shows advertise the fact when an upcoming episode is a season finale.
The way CNN is handling this is horrible. So they air the season finale, don't mention it's the season finale, and apparently next week people will tune in and not see The Hunt and not know what's going on since no one ever advertised last week was season 2's finale.
I hope there's nothing more to this going on. But I am a little worried when all of a sudden 8 episodes into a supposed 16-episode season is the season finale, that isn't even mentioned, and no one knows anything about renewal.
AMW might not have been as good a show towards the end, but they aired a lot more episodes per season and didn't take long breaks in between. I was relieved when I learned this season would be 16 episodes, since not enough fugitives would be aired in only 8-episode seasons. Too many people need a court of last resort, and not enough bad guys would be caught with such short seasons. Little did I know we got 8 episodes after all.
There isn't a court of last resort on tv anymore. Only a partial one...
Very pissed off right now. Not at The Hunt, but at CNN's scheduling.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Aug 31, 2015 11:17:02 GMT -5
Lifetime didn't even handle the series finale of AMW well either since it wasn't mentioned that the season was over in the episode. People tuned in the following week and didn't see a new episode.
My dad and I both agreed that the issue with this season was filming stories so far in advance and then having so many captures happen before the air date.
The ratings are hopefully still better then what AMW received, but the season may have ended a lot sooner since the format for the show isn't working as good as it could be. So does this mean that the AMW style of format has to at least partially return while still calling the show "The Hunt." Since I really did like how the first half of the season went, but the second half was handled really poorly.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 31, 2015 11:23:37 GMT -5
I don't think the format is the problem as far as the quality of the show and I think the Hunt still does well in the ratings (for CNN at least) (Catching as many fugitives as they can wise is where the format is a problem).
What I don't get is why they couldn't have replaced the already captured fugitives with the casting call fugitives for episodes 9-16.
It does seem they replaced Matt Dion with Herbert Maldonado and Bruce Sawhill, but that's about it.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 31, 2015 11:24:22 GMT -5
P.S. CNN doing the same thing Lifetime did is what has me worried.
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Post by pakman on Aug 31, 2015 11:34:44 GMT -5
Here's what I'm betting; it's probably a mid-season break. A lot of cable networks tend to do this where they'll split up the season into two. And since we're at the halfway point of the season, this is the most logical point for a mid-season break. Give it a couple months and the remaining episodes will reair.
To give a specific example, TEENick, Nickelodeon's teen-centric satellite network, would always do this with Degrassi. They'd air half the season in the fall and the other half in the spring. Eventually the producers of the show stopped producing full seasons and instead did half seasons - one specifically designed to air in the fall and one specifically designed to air in the spring. I wouldn't read too much into it.
Also, I'm pretty sure Lifetime announced it was going to be the season finale when AMW ended there. I definitely remember seeing a commercial the previous week saying something like, "Don't miss the two-hour America's Most Wanted season finale event next Friday on Lifetime!"
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 31, 2015 11:34:59 GMT -5
P.P.S. I'm hoping the other 8 episodes are still scheduled for this year, but the odds of them happening soon aren't good since Parts Unknown is returning soon.
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Post by pakman on Aug 31, 2015 11:39:38 GMT -5
Plus, for me personally, this gives me a chance to catch up since I haven't seen the episodes like I did last summer (what with me canceling my cable and all). As of last night I've seen up through the Bruce Sawhill episode Also, for some odd reason, I really don't have a desire to watch the "new" cases. I was fully focused on Said, Jackson, Smith, Sawhill, Hiers and the other AMW-produced segments, but for some reason I couldn't really get into the new ones (though Napier actually held my interest).
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 31, 2015 11:39:47 GMT -5
Here's what I'm betting; it's probably a mid-season break. A lot of cable networks tend to do this where they'll split up the season into two. And since we're at the halfway point of the season, this is the most logical point for a mid-season break. Give it a couple months and the remaining episodes will reair. To give a specific example, TEENick, Nickelodeon's teen-centric satellite network, would always do this with Degrassi. They'd air half the season in the fall and the other half in the spring. Eventually the producers of the show stopped producing full seasons and instead did half seasons - one specifically designed to air in the fall and one specifically designed to air in the spring. I wouldn't read too much into it. Also, I'm pretty sure Lifetime announced it was going to be the season finale when AMW ended there. I definitely remember seeing a commercial the previous week saying something like, "Don't miss the two-hour America's Most Wanted season finale event next Friday on Lifetime!" Sort of a jinx as to what I just posted. I know AMW definitely advertised the season-finale but I don't recall Lifetime doing so. I'll take your word for it though. The thing is John Walsh said the season would be 16-episodes. Not that there's be a season 2 and a season 3 of 8-episodes each. If the remaining eight air this year, then I won't be so upset, but if all we get are 8 episodes a year out of a 52-week season, that's not so good. Just going to hope for the best that this is a short break and we'll still see more 'Hunt' this year.
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Post by pakman on Aug 31, 2015 11:44:18 GMT -5
If this is a mid-season break like I suspect it is, then John's probably still right about it being 16 episodes. They're part of the same season, there's just an interruption TEENick would always call the mid-season break a "season finale," even though Canadian viewers saw the entire season at once.
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