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Post by HeadMarshal on Aug 17, 2015 4:39:38 GMT -5
I wasn't fond of Margaret Smith's Lifetime reenactment personally (all people may have their own opinion happily ) but I felt that this one told the story well. Nothing wrong with it at all. I actually didn't watch Paul Winklebleck's segment due to the fact that his story is already resolved. But really looking forward to Bruce Sawhill getting aired next week.
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Post by danwind on Aug 18, 2015 0:13:56 GMT -5
Next Week, I think it's Bruce Sawhill and New fugitive yet to decide
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 19, 2015 10:41:41 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 20, 2015 10:08:40 GMT -5
You know what I'd like to see that hasn't happened yet? A Hunt direct capture BEFORE the broadcast. Like someone sees the preview on The Hunt's CNN website or through a CNN article or Facebook post and recognizes the fugitive. Would also be interesting to see how The Hunt handles that. I'm sure it will happen one day if the show continues for a few more seasons.
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Post by pakman on Aug 22, 2015 13:56:23 GMT -5
I actually didn't watch Paul Winklebleck's segment due to the fact that his story is already resolved. Winklebleck's was interesting. They actually interviewed the 11-year-old he sexually assaulted back in 1998 (she's in her late-20s now). They showed her from behind but revealed her first name, Megan. When talking about his "current" crime, they interestingly didn't interview the two victims, but used the lead detective as the main source (who was NOT interviewed by AMW). I almost wonder if they were going to interview Ashley and Jessica, but when Winklebleck's body was found during production they decided to not do it. I actually didn't mind Smith's Lifetime reenactment, but I do agree that The Hunt's was very well-done. Interviewing the hitman was an interesting way to go about it (he still doesn't take responsibility for his actions, which kind of baffled me) and I had no idea that the family restaurant was actually shut down by the city and wasn't really closed voluntarily. I too am looking forward to Bruce Sawhill's story next week. I feel like CNN could bring in some good tips on him.
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Post by pakman on Aug 22, 2015 14:06:20 GMT -5
In fairness to Dylan's argument, he is right that it did look sloppy. However, the only explanation for him being on Margaret's phone records is if she wanted to frame him for murder- and she never mentioned him to investigators. You'd think she would if she wanted to. Don't mean to double-post, but I just had this thought about Dylan's sloppiness accusations. Perhaps it was sloppy because it was done by a hitman who had never done it before? I feel like that's what prosecutors would have said at his trial
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 22, 2015 14:08:32 GMT -5
LOL exactly. I hope it came across that I don't believe Dylan. If the crime weren't so brutal I *might* have some sympathy for him (while obviously not excusing it and feeling he still needs to be in jail for life), since Margaret Smith did manipulate him. However, this was overkill.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Aug 23, 2015 20:10:25 GMT -5
I should have mentioned this earlier but thanks to Progressive for sponsoring the Second Season of The Hunt.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 23, 2015 21:10:35 GMT -5
Review- SPOILERS BELOW.
Ok, an excellent episode of The Hunt- belongs right up there with other really good 2-case episodes (Stoeser/Mozdir, Smika/McLean etc.)
In the Herbert Maldonado case, obviously they were going to have establish Lori Mejia- who got involved in the wrong lifestyle- as a victim we were to have empathy for- and they did an excellent job of establishing that- and that she was not that kind of person before she met Max- who introduced her to the lifestyle where she got involved with a guy like Maldonado.
Also, I appreciate The Hunt giving people the opportunity to tell their side of the story- but my goodness- Max might be the most unlikeable "technically" innocent person AMW or The Hunt has interviewed. "I'm not a pimp, but she if makes money and gives it to me I'm not going to complain." Then he's talking about his mother taught him to respect women. *sigh*. Max brought her into that lifestyle. He may not have been the one to kill Lori, but he was still a piece of crap.
One side note- the Maldonado case might have set a record for the shortest amount of time Walsh spoke in a case. I think he spoke only once.
As for Sawhill, it once again expanded on AMW and did it's job of making people angry at Sawhill and wanting to see justice for Katie.
Kenny Jo is almost just as bad. John Walsh said exactly what I was thinking. She said "I told you Katie was off limits" to Bruce- like it was ok to molest any other girl- just not Katie.
My only nitpick is they should have showed Kenny Jo's picture at the end along with Bruce- or at least mentioned he may still be with her. It was implied and they showed her picture during the previous parts- but it could have helped potential tipsters if they were reminded of that.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 23, 2015 21:20:55 GMT -5
Also, I want to say, I know Katie's parents and sister were beating themselves up over her death- but her death in my opinion is to be blamed on one person and one person alone- and that's Bruce Sawhill.
This isn't a case where you go "they just met the guy and they're letting him babysit?"- the father had known Bruce since the two were teenagers. Bruce grew marijuana so his excuse for prison being marijuana charges made perfect sense.
And they tried to get Katie help and asked her if she was ok but she kept up a front that she was ok and kept the demons within herself.
I feel bad because in so many shows the victims beat themselves up, and blame themselves, and except in some rare circumstances (*cough* Patricia Said *cough*), it's usually not their fault.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 24, 2015 8:11:47 GMT -5
According to Zap2it, The Hunt is NOT scheduled for September 6th. Don't know why, first I thought it was not to compete with the debut of Sunday football then I learned that's not until the 13th. It's also labor day weekend.
The Hunt is supposed to be a 16-episode season. I'm wondering if this is just one week off or if they're taking a tiny hiatus to break up the season.
Schedules are always subject to change, but for now there won't be a new episode on September 6th. (Cue every person freaking out thinking that CNN's hit show was cancelled).
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 27, 2015 14:50:20 GMT -5
I hate to be the one to bring this up- but the Hunt has experienced a bit of a capture lull right now. Next week will be the half-way point of 8 episodes (9 if you count the "Still Running" episode). Only Megan Everett has been captured.
There are some reasons to be optimistic- last year The Hunt had only caught Charles Mozdir at the halfway point (Shane Miller's body was discovered- but we've already discussed that really wasn't because of The Hunt). Also, Genevieve Kelley would become a direct capture a few months later (even that's debatable but for argument's/this conversation's sake I'll give the Hunt credit for Genevieve's capture).
In addition there are a few fugitives like Tomas Gonzalez, Herbert Maldonado, and Prakashanand Saraswati where even if The Hunt led to their hideout it would take additional time to arrest and/or extradite likely being in other countries (heck, even Margaret Smith could be in Mexico too). (Or even Yaser Said if he's in Egypt).
Still, I feel John Walsh has exaggerated The Hunt's success, as much as I love the show. As much as I loved The Hunt and AMW, Walsh exaggerates captures. He claims 1,230 captures for AMW when the final total was 1204. He claims credit for AMW capturing Eric Rudolph when they never took credit for Eric Rudolph. And he keeps saying The Hunt captured four guys last season. ONLY Charles Mozdir and (once again arguably) Genevieve Kelley is there any tangible evidence that The Hunt was the direct result for season 1.
Megan Everett has been the only season 2 fugitive captured.
There is no proof Shane Miller and Kevin Stoeser's body discoveries, and Victor Barnard's capture had anything to do with The Hunt.
All the season 1 remaining fugitives are still at large despite multiple repeats and even more extra sets of eyes thanks to Netflix airings.
The Hunt has aired a total of 20 fugitives so far who weren't caught before the show premiered- they've had 3 direct captures out of that 20. That number isn't that good.
It's a catch-22 situation. I do agree The Hunt is a better show than AMW because they expand. You take a look at every fugitive they've aired that they also aired on AMW, and for most cases- you have to admit The Hunt airing was better, had more detail and got you even angrier at the fugitive- this includes Yaser Said, Margaret Smith, Paul Jackson, and Bruce Sawhill. And probably Rick McLean. (Maybe not Dave Burget).
At the same time- there comes a point where you want to actually capture these guys.
I remember I read a quote from a Producer once where they said something like "and if we happen to capture one of these guys, that's even better."
And I think therein lies the problem.
I think AMW, although not as good a show towards the end, made more of an effort to actually catch these fugitives. The Hunt does a better job at telling the story, but their focus is more on the story.
Sorry if this sounds harsh. I love The Hunt, and I think it's better show than AMW was its' last years on Fox (and arguably the Lifetime season). It's just I really don't get why they can't have like a 15 seconds of shame or do something to broadcast more fugitives. The Justice Network has been having tremendous success with 30 second PSA's. Not enough fugitives are getting caught the same pace as AMW. Even the fugitives aired aren't getting caught at the same pace as AMW. (I'm sure they had a better batting average than 3-per-20).
I just felt this needed to be brought up again. If not for The Hunt to think about airing more fugitives, than at least for Walsh and company or someone else to think about bringing AMW back or doing a new breaking news type show in addition to The Hunt that can show a few more cases.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 27, 2015 14:51:59 GMT -5
Also, in fairness, A) A lot of guys were unknowingly dead before season 1 began, and others are possibly dead and B) the season was supposed to start last March. CNN delayed it to July. Matthew Dion and Alexander Hill Jr. at least could have been presumably been direct captures had the Hunt started on time.
Still, when you only show 1-2 fugitives, those unexpected circumstances impact capture probability even more.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Aug 27, 2015 17:23:09 GMT -5
Aside from the fugitives that have been arrested or those that are now dead, most of the fugitives The Hunt has profiled are probably more difficult to apprehend than most fugitives. Genevieve Kelley surrendered was a good cold case fugitive direct capture but they don't happen that often. Also even though efforts to find fugitives in foreign countries have gotten better, there are still challenges in finding fugitives that flee the US, especially the cold case ones. The push for additional viewer ratings is resulting in airing these more emotional and complex cases which for the most part have been told very professionally and well in my opinion, but Scumhunter is right, this does result in less captures. Why not post additional fugitives that Law Enforcement are looking for on the official website, and manage the archives better than amw.com did. In the latter years of AMW, a lot of great captures occurred off the website, including Bruno Salgado who to date is the longest-running fugitive caught by a John Walsh hosted program.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 27, 2015 17:53:20 GMT -5
So it doesn't sound too harsh, I am partially trying reverse psychology. Like maybe if I complain about the Hunt not doing great with captures lately, another direct capture will come soon. Although now that I revealed that, I may have jinxed my reverse psychology lol.
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