davep
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Post by davep on Jul 9, 2019 15:17:52 GMT -5
Yes, I see the sameness in some areas. I noticed right off the ears don't match, and Casey's right ear sticks out a bit, but if I saw this guy somewhere I would have to check things out because you're right Shunter, he is close in many areas.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 15, 2019 1:36:52 GMT -5
I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on this, and in my opinion it could be the key to finally solving this manhunt- what do we think Jason is doing for a living or doing to make money?
It was said he never had to work a real job a day in his life. But he did have "jobs", just not legitimate ones. Fake modeling agencies, toy companies etc...
It is believed perhaps he's leeching off a woman he met while on the run to support himself.
But is it possible he could have some sort of legit job? He's older and perhaps not all about the playboy lifestyle anymore. Perhaps it is just a matter of surviving being on the run.
Remember Dan Hiers on the U.S. Marshals list was caught* (not officially confirmed) teaching English in China.
Jason Brown is multilingual and can easily get a job as either French or English teacher wherever he is hiding.
This is the thing that still scares me the most about Brown. He's wanted for one murder that we know of, but what happens if he ever runs out of money again?
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Post by Maddog on Jul 15, 2019 9:07:05 GMT -5
I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on this, and in my opinion it could be the key to finally solving this manhunt- what do we think Jason is doing for a living or doing to make money? It was said he never had to work a real job a day in his life. But he did have "jobs", just not legitimate ones. Fake modeling agencies, toy companies etc... It is believed perhaps he's leeching off a woman he met while on the run to support himself. But is it possible he could have some sort of legit job? He's older and perhaps not all about the playboy lifestyle anymore. Perhaps it is just a matter of surviving being on the run. Remember Dan Hiers on the U.S. Marshals list was caught* (not officially confirmed) teaching English in China. Jason Brown is multilingual and can easily get a job as either French or English teacher wherever he is hiding. This is the thing that still scares me the most about Brown. He's wanted for one murder that we know of, but what happens if he ever runs out of money again? That’s what I’m worried about - and the FBI agent said that’s why he was added (along with the escalation from credit card fraud to murder - they were really alarmed by that). Due to the way he coldly planned his crime (we know it’s alleged he kept tabs of what time the armored car dropped by and he used armor-piercing bullets), and based on the fact he still hasn’t been caught, it’s my opinion he’s a high-risk to kill again.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 16, 2019 0:02:02 GMT -5
I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on this, and in my opinion it could be the key to finally solving this manhunt- what do we think Jason is doing for a living or doing to make money? It was said he never had to work a real job a day in his life. But he did have "jobs", just not legitimate ones. Fake modeling agencies, toy companies etc... It is believed perhaps he's leeching off a woman he met while on the run to support himself. But is it possible he could have some sort of legit job? He's older and perhaps not all about the playboy lifestyle anymore. Perhaps it is just a matter of surviving being on the run. Remember Dan Hiers on the U.S. Marshals list was caught* (not officially confirmed) teaching English in China. Jason Brown is multilingual and can easily get a job as either French or English teacher wherever he is hiding. This is the thing that still scares me the most about Brown. He's wanted for one murder that we know of, but what happens if he ever runs out of money again? I don’t think Jason Brown could get a teaching Job in the U.S. since I know here in States they constantly do background checks (as far as I know they do in the county I live in). I think Brown is doing jobs that allow payment in Cash in order to avoid a paper trail perhaps as a handyman, in Construction, Farm/Ranch Hand, Fisherman. I know during the Dateline episode in 2013 investigators said that Jason hiding out with his father John is a conspiracy theory, but after all this time, and given the weird ending to such cases like for example thinking this whole time Donald Webb’s Ex wife divorced her husband in 2005 and in 2017 it would come out that she had a secret room for him, and buried him in her backyard in 1999 while I was thinking Mrs. Webb genuinely knew nothing about her husbands whereabouts. I think the family might know where John Brown is and perhaps Jason is with him, unless the whole secret room part is also what’s going on, however Brown’s family is more than likely being watched.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 16, 2019 0:07:24 GMT -5
I never said Brown could be teaching in the U.S. but overseas teaching english or french in a foreign country where background checks aren't as stringent, hence how Hiers became an english teacher in China*
I still think the father story makes for interesting discussion but probably is just a case of family history repeating itself. The FBi agents seemed very dismissive of the theory of Dateline and I feel there must be a reason for that.
Perhaps Brown learned how to hide successfully from how his dad did it, but I don't think he's with him
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 16, 2019 0:21:24 GMT -5
I never said Brown could be teaching in the U.S. but overseas teaching english or french in a foreign country where background checks aren't as stringent, hence how Hiers became an english teacher in China* I still think the father story makes for interesting discussion but probably is just a case of family history repeating itself. The FBi agents seemed very dismissive of the theory of Dateline and I feel there must be a reason for that. Perhaps Brown learned how to hide successfully from how his dad did it, but I don't think he's with him I found John Brown’s missing person description on the Charley Project charleyproject.org/case/david-john-brownI just don’t understand how Brown, a guy who liked being the center of attention has managed to stay on the run for 14 1/2 years (12 on the FBI Top Ten). I would think he’s living in an Amish community in the U.S. or living with some Amish styled people somewhere in Mexico.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 16, 2019 0:28:29 GMT -5
Oh wow, I can't believe I mebee thought of looking on the Charley Project for his dad! Nice find, although I'm surprised Charley Project doesn't mention his fugitive son, perhaps that's intentional.
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davep
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Post by davep on Jul 29, 2019 20:00:41 GMT -5
I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on this, and in my opinion it could be the key to finally solving this manhunt- what do we think Jason is doing for a living or doing to make money? It was said he never had to work a real job a day in his life. But he did have "jobs", just not legitimate ones. Fake modeling agencies, toy companies etc... It is believed perhaps he's leeching off a woman he met while on the run to support himself. But is it possible he could have some sort of legit job? He's older and perhaps not all about the playboy lifestyle anymore. Perhaps it is just a matter of surviving being on the run. Remember Dan Hiers on the U.S. Marshals list was caught* (not officially confirmed) teaching English in China. Jason Brown is multilingual and can easily get a job as either French or English teacher wherever he is hiding. This is the thing that still scares me the most about Brown. He's wanted for one murder that we know of, but what happens if he ever runs out of money again? I don’t think Jason Brown could get a teaching Job in the U.S. since I know here in States they constantly do background checks (as far as I know they do in the county I live in). I think Brown is doing jobs that allow payment in Cash in order to avoid a paper trail perhaps as a handyman, in Construction, Farm/Ranch Hand, Fisherman. I know during the Dateline episode in 2013 investigators said that Jason hiding out with his father John is a conspiracy theory, but after all this time, and given the weird ending to such cases like for example thinking this whole time Donald Webb’s Ex wife divorced her husband in 2005 and in 2017 it would come out that she had a secret room for him, and buried him in her backyard in 1999 while I was thinking Mrs. Webb genuinely knew nothing about her husbands whereabouts. I think the family might know where John Brown is and perhaps Jason is with him, unless the whole secret room part is also what’s going on, however Brown’s family is more than likely being watched. I think Jason's dad was knocked off. A long shot, but I think he did another one of his money-runs between U.S. and Mexico for some cartel and decided to keep the money for himself because of his gambling debts in Vegas. Remember, John Brown took his money out of his bank account and high-tailed it out of Cali. Left everything behind...family, nice house, all of it and him GONE. Obviously, he was running from something and running fast. You only run that fast and leave everything behind when the police or the mob is coming for you, and it wasn't the police.
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Post by davep on Jul 29, 2019 20:27:51 GMT -5
Yes, I wondered about this a lot myself. I think Brown had that $56,000 spent inside 18 months. Now what? I think he either committed more crimes or he is dead by suicide. If he killed himself a body was never found of course, but if he killed himself up in the vast Canadian wilderness he probably wouldn't be found. On other notes... 1.) Jason could only leech for so long. People would come into the woman's life (parents, friends, etc) and sooner or later say...what are you doing with that loser Jason. The leech game is very temporary. Jason could move on to another woman, but that would get old sooner or later even for Jason. And that game is certainly old now since it has been 14 years and running. 2.) I don't think Jason has any kind of work ethic. After 34 years if one doesn't have one, and has never worked a day in his life, it's damn near impossible to develop one. I think he likes crime and the excitement it gives him. Think about it...he's on the run after leaving his sister and heads down to Mexico...still using the gas cards. Then does a U-turn the other way to Portland. He's teasing the FBI. He's loving it. If he's alive he's still doing it, but it's pretty amazing he hasn't been caught yet. Once he's caught he's fingerprinted, then he's toast. 3.) If he's still alive he has a solid ID that's for sure. He probably had one set to go before killing Keith in Arizona. Jason is either working(unlikely), still doing crimes or dead by suicide. I don't think he's living in the U.S. but I think he has visited. He probably got off on visiting. It's exciting to people who think like him.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 30, 2019 1:10:44 GMT -5
Not the U.S. but my feeling is Brown could be teaching English or French in a foreign country.
As far as leeching, even AMW initially said Brown was believed to be bisexual and I haven't heard anything about that in years. Why can't he possibly be living with a man and not a woman if he's bisexual? That's not to judge the sexual orientation of choice, I have no problem with anyone's orientation as long as they aren't a murderer, just it could be a potential clue as well.
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Post by davep on Jul 30, 2019 19:55:02 GMT -5
If Brown is gay or bisexual then his options open up ten-fold for hiding out. He could leech the gay community all his life, and would probably look quite a bit different now. But I don't think Brown goes both ways.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 31, 2019 0:15:58 GMT -5
I googled for places besides AMW and he's only "rumored" to "possibly" have bisexual tendencies, figured I'd bring it up on that million to one shot. Nevertheless I said before I feel if there was more to it, the FBI agents would have mentioned it when interviewed on Dateline NBC- they specifically stated they felt he might be leeching off a woman and didn't mention anything else about his sex life.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 14:15:47 GMT -5
Today is the 15th anniversary of Robert Keith Palmores' murder.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 9, 2020 23:25:07 GMT -5
Brown was profiled on last night's (4/9/2020) episode of Live PD: Wanted on A&E as their #1 suspect of the week. Also, this gives me the opportunity to go on a bit of a mini-rant here as I saw some social media commentary calling Brown a "legend" and in awe of him for outsmarting the FBI (so far) for all these years. Jason Brown is not a legend. Smart, yes, unfortunately. But he's also an a-hole who allegedly killed someone he didn't even know for a paltry amount of money. You know who doesn't think Brown is a legend? Derek Palomares and anyone else in Keith Palomares' family that's still alive and wants to see justice (sadly Keith's mother didn't live to see it). Fugitives who kill people (allegedly) shouldn't be glorified just because they are unfortunately good at hiding. Brown is not a legend, just someone unfortunately lucky in not getting caught (so far). m.twitter.com/OfficialLivePD/status/1248432124249526273
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 10, 2020 1:44:55 GMT -5
Brown was profiled on last night's (4/9/2020) episode of Live PD: Wanted on A&E as their #1 suspect of the week. Also, this gives me the opportunity to go on a bit of a mini-rant here as I saw some social media commentary calling Brown a "legend" and in awe of him for outsmarting the FBI (so far) for all these years. Jason Brown is not a legend. Smart, yes, unfortunately. But he's also an a-hole who allegedly killed someone he didn't even know for a paltry amount of money. You know who doesn't think Brown is a legend? Derek Palomares and anyone else in Keith Palomares' family that's still alive and wants to see justice (sadly Keith's mother didn't live to see it). Fugitives who kill people (allegedly) shouldn't be glorified just because they are unfortunately good at hiding. Brown is not a legend, just someone unfortunately lucky in not getting caught (so far). m.twitter.com/OfficialLivePD/status/1248432124249526273Since Brown was aired on live PD last night, I think it’s interesting they bumped Yaser to the top of the Top Ten section, Skipping over Brown. I have a feeling either tips have dried up in Browns case or they’re likely onto him now and thus airing him on live PD was to pinpoint his exact location.
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