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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 23, 2017 11:42:30 GMT -5
The only thing I'd disagree with is I don't think Thailand is that silly because Bangkok has a red light district which would sort of suit Brown's lifestyle.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jan 23, 2017 11:49:48 GMT -5
Also there are no records of him leaving the country from what authorities know, so if he wanted to start over, he'd have to stay in the states, but a more warmer climate, which includes Hawaii, or start anew in Canada or somewhere in Latin America. Thailand I also disagree, and France I don't see a guy like Brown living there, Bradford Bishop seems more likely to live successfully there.
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Post by davep on Jan 25, 2017 0:19:38 GMT -5
The only thing I'd disagree with is I don't think Thailand is that silly because Bangkok has a red light district which would sort of suit Brown's lifestyle. I don’t know. There are red-light districts all over the world. Brown didn’t seem to be preoccupied with sex like a sex-addict or pedophile would be. I don’t think he even has much of an interest in those places. Brown’s whole life, identity and self esteem came from cultivating that successful image of unlimited toys (cars, boats), a nice place to live, a round of golf at a nice golf course, and the go-to-guy to pick up the tab for everybody’s drinks at the bar. I’ll bet the only thing he’s doing now is maybe playing a little golf, but not in Thailand.
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Post by davep on Jan 25, 2017 0:39:48 GMT -5
Hi Dave, thanks for joining the forum! Great insights here. Brown does have an international business degree and speaks multiple languages, but I would agree sometimes a PhD does not necessarily equal common sense. And I would agree Brown has been incredibly lucky considering authorities were so close to catching him initially. The hotel clerk recognized him but he left before cops got there. His name was released to the media in a severe snafu since the FBI DID NOT want his name released. His sister lied about the car he was driving when authorities got to her house where Jason had been staying. They had three opportunities to catch Jason in just the first day or days that unfortunately never came to fruition a and somehow there's been no close calls ever since those initial golden opportunities. Brown was dumb-as-a-rock with the heist leaving one clue after another for the police to use (fingerprint, bike, gun purchase, bullet in truck, hotel/restaurant receipts, etc…). But then during his run, for the last 12 years, he seemed to have upped his level of cunning to a new platform altogether, like a criminal mastermind, just like that. It really makes no sense that someone can go from stupid-criminal to getaway-mastermind in a blink of an eye. It puzzles and bugs me!!! Of course it can all be explained if he committed suicide in a remote location, or if somebody knocked him off for the cash and disposed of his body.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 25, 2017 2:54:18 GMT -5
Hi Dave, thanks for joining the forum! Great insights here. Brown does have an international business degree and speaks multiple languages, but I would agree sometimes a PhD does not necessarily equal common sense. And I would agree Brown has been incredibly lucky considering authorities were so close to catching him initially. The hotel clerk recognized him but he left before cops got there. His name was released to the media in a severe snafu since the FBI DID NOT want his name released. His sister lied about the car he was driving when authorities got to her house where Jason had been staying. They had three opportunities to catch Jason in just the first day or days that unfortunately never came to fruition a and somehow there's been no close calls ever since those initial golden opportunities. Brown was dumb-as-a-rock with the heist leaving one clue after another for the police to use (fingerprint, bike, gun purchase, bullet in truck, hotel/restaurant receipts, etc…). But then during his run, for the last 12 years, he seemed to have upped his level of cunning to a new platform altogether, like a criminal mastermind, just like that. It really makes no sense that someone can go from stupid-criminal to getaway-mastermind in a blink of an eye. It puzzles and bugs me!!! Of course it can all be explained if he committed suicide in a remote location, or if somebody knocked him off for the cash and disposed of his body. One thing that's sort of gone under the radar was there was someone in the hotel lobby right after Brown allegedly murdered Keith Palomares that looked like they were possibly with Jason and a possible accomplice. It would give some credence to this theory.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 25, 2017 9:21:04 GMT -5
There is no way to verify credibility or who is behind the page but someone started a jasonderekbrown.com website which has a running list of tips and sightings. The sightings at least seem to be in line with what we know. Latest rumor seems to be he to returned to his home town of Dana Point, California recently. jasonderekbrown.com/
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 25, 2017 9:23:38 GMT -5
I also stress that I'm not saying this to disrespect the page but anyone with tips still needs to contact the FBI as to not tip Brown off.
Only sharing what the page said since the info is already out there. They seem to not share specific leads if asked not to sound I do give them credit for that.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 25, 2017 11:02:29 GMT -5
Ok, I'm now reading the blog section of that website and one thing I take offense to is asking if Jason is a hero or villain. To the author's credit their latest blog stresses he needs to be turned in. But there is NOTHING heroic about what Brown did. I understand everyone's who's ever paid too much in taxes has wanted to stick it to the government from time to time, but shooting and killing a guy just trying to make a modest living is NOT heroic.
While I agree if it wasn't a federal truck, the case wouldn't have gotten as much publicity, that is not Keith Palomares' fault.
To the author's credit, they admit they got carried away in their latest blog, and I respect that. But I want to stress if Brown is guilty of killing Palomares, he is nothing but pure evil.
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Post by eal22 on Jan 26, 2017 13:56:18 GMT -5
Brown may have gone to Mexico for a bit, nut no doubt returned to the USA in time. He is probably partying it up in Panama City, Florida or something. What I always wonder about fugitives is how they know when to move on to somewhere else. They must develop a sixth sense of knowing when the net is closing in on them. Speaking of which, has anyone watched the new CBS show Hunted? People are given a chance to go on the run and evade capture by the authorities. If they stay on the run long enough they win a cash prize. The show certainly shows how easy it is for authorities to trace peoples whereabouts and also how clueless some people are about hiding. One couple used an ATM at a Greyhound station and got on the bus to Atlanta where their parents lived. Needless-to-say they were caught very quickly.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 26, 2017 17:38:07 GMT -5
Brown may have gone to Mexico for a bit, nut no doubt returned to the USA in time. He is probably partying it up in Panama City, Florida or something. What I always wonder about fugitives is how they know when to move on to somewhere else. They must develop a sixth sense of knowing when the net is closing in on them. Speaking of which, has anyone watched the new CBS show Hunted? People are given a chance to go on the run and evade capture by the authorities. If they stay on the run long enough they win a cash prize. The show certainly shows how easy it is for authorities to trace peoples whereabouts and also how clueless some people are about hiding. One couple used an ATM at a Greyhound station and got on the bus to Atlanta where their parents lived. Needless-to-say they were caught very quickly. I saw the first episode of Hunted and really enjoyed it. I also can't believe how incredibly dumb that couple was to use their ATM card knowing it would be tracked lol. Some people have criticized the show as being scripted, but while some parts seem pre-planned (a car accident the minute you go on the run? Really? lol), but the techniques and methods used are all real so I still found it very interesting.
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Post by davep on Jan 26, 2017 23:33:21 GMT -5
""One thing that's sort of gone under the radar was there was someone in the hotel lobby right after Brown allegedly murdered Keith Palomares that looked like they were possibly with Jason and a possible accomplice. It would give some credence to this theory.""
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I remember that one. It looks like as one pieces together all the parts of the crime and the get-a-way that he acted alone. I think maybe he was just talking to a guy in the hotel lobby, or maybe the guy started talking to Brown. What we don’t know is…
1.) How long did the conversation last. 2.) Did they walk out together from the lobby. 3.) Did they walk towards each other coming into the video or did one approach the other. 4.) Did they exchange anything. 5.) Did they shake hands like they knew each other. 6.) Was Brown so clever, as to purposely start a conversation with someone in the hotel lobby, knowing it would be on video, to throw off the FBI a little.
Just kidding, delete the last one. Brown is too stupid for that forward thinking. He has trouble wiping off his own fingerprints…lol.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 27, 2017 0:19:36 GMT -5
Yeah I would agree Brown likely committed the robbery and murder himself. He likes to leech off people before and after the fact. He is a bit of an anamoly in that he may be the world's first outgoing loner.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 27, 2017 0:21:22 GMT -5
Another thing I wonder about with Brown though is he's now in his early-mid 40's. Is it possible he's no longer about the party lifestyle? He may have "calmed down" a bit in his older age.
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Post by davep on Jan 27, 2017 0:41:37 GMT -5
Thoughts On The Portland Airport:
I’m also wondering about any video at the Portland Airport. This was 2004, 3 years after 9/11, so you know airports nationwide had a ton of video cameras everywhere. It seems watching NBC Dateline (2013) and American Greed, that they didn’t touch on any possible video at all. I’m wondering if the FBI wanted it that way for obvious reasons. I’m also wondering…
1.) Is there any video of Brown at the Portland airport. I don’t mean the Escalade, I mean Brown himself, and was he with anyone? 2.) Any video of Brown leaving the long-term parking area at the airport? If not, then maybe another car/person was waiting for Brown under the cover of roof parking. 3.) Did Brown take a taxi out of the airport? If so, there would be video at the taxi stand. 4.) Did Brown even bring the Escalade to the airport in the first place? 5.) When Brown dumped the Escalade he would have to have another car waiting. Maybe he had an emergency car in a Portland storage somewhere, or maybe he had help. 6.) He had enough money on him to buy another car with cash, but dealerships don’t take cash, they take a cashier’s check instead if one wants to pay with cash. Brown couldn’t go that route of course. Maybe he bought a used car with cash from one of those 1 acre used car lots you still see sometimes on the street corner. A lot of those guys will take anything. No offense to anyone here who happens to sell used cars. Remember, I did say 1 acre.
So many questions.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 27, 2017 0:48:47 GMT -5
Those are all excellent questions about the Portland airport and yeah perhaps there's information being purposely withheld. It is possible Brown parked his car there as a ruse, but as we've discussed, perhaps he's not an ingenious mastermind after all. (I still think he's highly intelligent, but you are right in that he's also been incredibly lucky so far.)
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