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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 26, 2018 19:36:57 GMT -5
I'm only going to slightly disagree somewhat in I see fugitives on the run a long time get caught a long time because of a stupid mistake all the time. AMW fugitive Orville Cochran was on the run for over a decade and got caught because he shoplifted at a grocery store (so did Robert Durst the first time he went on the run, although not as long a run), there's also been a few mostly non-AMW cases in recent years of cold case fugitives getting caught after they apply for social security benefits. Sometimes it's just luck and the fugitive isn't a cunning genius.
I do agree with the general sentiment that obviously the longer a fugitive remains on the run unfortunately the more unlikely they are to get caught.
But I know often whenever you watch a crime show where they interview a U.S. Marshal or other type of law enforcement official chasing a fugitive- it's a cliche but true saying- the fugitive has to be lucky every day they're on the run, not make a mistake every day they're on the run. Law enforcement only has to be lucky once to catch them. Just one mistake, and they could be done.
In the case of Yaser Said, it might not even be a matter of luck or mistakes but that he could possibly be hiding in relatively plain sight with the country he's in doing absolutely nothing about it so far.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 26, 2018 22:19:41 GMT -5
I'm only going to slightly disagree somewhat in I see fugitives on the run a long time get caught a long time because of a stupid mistake all the time. AMW fugitive Orville Cochran was on the run for over a decade and got caught because he shoplifted at a grocery store (so did Robert Durst the first time he went on the run, although not as long a run), there's also been a few mostly non-AMW cases in recent years of cold case fugitives getting caught after they apply for social security benefits. Sometimes it's just luck and the fugitive isn't a cunning genius. I do agree with the general sentiment that obviously the longer a fugitive remains on the run unfortunately the more unlikely they are to get caught. But I know often whenever you watch a crime show where they interview a U.S. Marshal or other type of law enforcement official chasing a fugitive- it's a cliche but true saying- the fugitive has to be lucky every day they're on the run, not make a mistake every day they're on the run. Law enforcement only has to be lucky once to catch them. Just one mistake, and they could be done. In the case of Yaser Said, it might not even be a matter of luck or mistakes but that he could possibly be hiding in relatively plain sight with the country he's in doing absolutely nothing about it so far. That doctor that was captured in Egypt in 1992/1993 was apparently arrested by “Special Forces” and turned over to the U.S...... so unless those “Special Forces” capture Yaser Said, I feel getting him isn’t a long shot. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 26, 2018 22:34:29 GMT -5
It's hard to compare 1992 and 2018 fugitive cases. I only bring up Dr. Ali because it gives some glimmer of hope, even if a stretch.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 3, 2018 0:34:51 GMT -5
Mentioned in the thread as Ghada Said as well. As we reported in her thread, Bill Warner (the PI hired by a relative of the girls to investigate Yaser) Yaser's sister, Ghada Said, is or was also wanted, but for kidnapping her children in 1999 and taking them to Egypt. The children were Iman (daughter) and Yousef Almetnawy (son). Bill Warner reported that Yousef was located or recovered, but Iman was still missing and Ghada Said still at large. While this is a P.I. blog, his statement seems to be backed up by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children removing Yousef, however, they seemingly removed Iman as well. Now Charley Project has Yousef (not Iman) as case of the week. Perhaps they simply didn't know of the update. But still confused and this case is important as to where Ghada and her children are since it someone relates to the Yaser Said case as well. (If he is possibly hiding out with Ghada in Egypt). amwfans.com/thread/1872/ghada-said-texas-1999charleyproject.org/case/yousef-almetnawy |
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Post by Maddog on Oct 3, 2018 8:58:05 GMT -5
I never realized he took his passport with him. That leads me to believe he may have fled the country.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 3, 2018 12:21:45 GMT -5
Yep this along with the Warner photo is what seems to suggest Egypt.
The few arguments for Said being in the states is he had become somewhat Americanized himself (and was simply a raging hypocrite when it came to his daughters), and taxi driver is a relatively easy profession to have here and he has to make money somehow.
It does seem more likely that he is in Egpyt though
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Post by Maddog on Oct 3, 2018 12:46:10 GMT -5
Yep this along with the Warner photo is what seems to suggest Egypt. The few arguments for Said being in the states is he had become somewhat Americanized himself (and was simply a raging hypocrite when it came to his daughters), and taxi driver is a relatively easy profession to have here and he has to make money somehow. It does seem more likely that he is in Egpyt though What do you think the odds are he’s outside of Egypt and somewhere else in the Middle East? |
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 3, 2018 13:04:00 GMT -5
Its unfortunately probably a possibility since he was in Abu Dhabi in the past, I guess we just have to hope he isn't. (Not that Egypt is an extradition cakewalk either, but it's a little more feasible to get him back from there than from other countries.)
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Oct 26, 2018 23:25:27 GMT -5
On the reddit forum on this case, there’s a poster named F0zzysW0rld, who posted earlier in 2018 and this is what she had to say (and as dramaalert’s Keemstar would say) “Roll it” 👇
“Last year I called in a tip to the FBI!
My boyfriend and I happened to be watching a show on TV, I believe it was called FBI's Greatest Take downs, or something like that. Because of this we started googling FBI most wanted and that's when I saw his picture! I knew it was him right away. I just turned my phone to my BF, I said nothing, and he immediately blurts out, "OMG that's Said!!!"
Here's the story. We live and work in downtown Manhattan and have both frequented the bar Ulysses on Stone Street many times during our careers. When we began dating in 2014 we went to Ulysses after work with colleagues a lot. I remember the first night I met Said. He had pulled up his, what I remember to be a champagne or light brown colored older model Mercedes, up onto the cobble stones outside of the bar. My SO and a few other of his colleagues explain that this is Said who has been given them rides home from local bars for years. I'm introduced to Said and proceed to take rides home from him. Over the course of the next few months of riding in his car I learn that he's originally from Texas (and still has some family there), that he's currently living in Brooklyn and does work with computers and real estate on the side, his primary business being driving his cab. He never took off his sunglasses even in the blackness of night. Also he was a heavy smoker. I had become so comfortable with Said that he even drove me, alone, to my apartment in Hoboken at the time. Towards the end of the year we started to frequent some new bars that had opened. But one thing i realized is after the end of 2014 we never saw Said again. I later realized that this probably coincides with his addition to the Top 10 list.
Me and my boyfriend were obviously in panic, thinking could this possibly be true. In order to ensure we weren't just psyching ourselves up or confirmation bias etc, we started texting the picture (without any details just the picture) to anyone who had known Said and gotten rides from him. Every single person texted back saying something along the lines of Holy that's Said!!!
I finally decided to call the local field office. I told them everything I could remember about him and his car.(I also told them that the age progression sketch they made was not accurate. As of 2014 he was thinner than the sketch and his hair and mustache was still black). I event gave them my boyfriend's info in case they wanted to call him for additional details. Neither of us ever heard from the FBI again. I'm pretty sure Said is long gone from NY. He hasn't been seen in the area since 2014.
I'm 10000% sure it was him. It completely freaked me out once I knew his disgusting crimes. I'm disturbed by the fact that a guy I trusted to drive me to my front door on many occasions had killed his own children!”
Honestly If true, this means that Yaser was still in the United States in 2014 at least and the photo that has surfaced on here allegedly being Yaser, could possibly be him as it’s mentioned he is thinner than in his age progression and adding to that, he may have fled to Egypt after he was added to avoid any heat by staying in the states, But Any thoughts everyone?? Interesting that I find this as he’s in consideration for our site’s position as public enemy #1.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 27, 2018 2:57:12 GMT -5
The thing is with these cases- especially top ten cases, you will always get stories like that. There's like 7 gazillion stories similar to this about someone who definitely knows they met Jason Derek Brown for example. I'd be very cautious about going "holy crap that post seems legit" based on one random person on the internet's claimed story. Now that's not to say this person isn't telling the truth but sometimes thre can always be explanations. I can say it now since the case is over anyway but I once tried to help a person who insisted they knew David Sheffield- even showed his picture to their friends who confirmed it was him. This person I felt was very honest and telling the truth. Of course, we found out it couldn't have been Sheffield since he was dead likely the entire time he was believed to be on the run. At least five people must have told this person "holy crap that's Sheffield!" when he was actually dead.
Also, the fact that the FBI didn't call the person back does make me think they doubted the legitimacy of the tip. They do call back if they think the tip is legit and/or worth talking to the person. I know from some cases I've helped potential tipsters with. In the Price of Honor, I forgot if it was the director or someone else who worked on the film, but someone had a very good potential sighting of Said hanging out in front of a house still in Texas (and I think still in the suburban Dallas area) and the FBI did I'm fact call them back.
Also. Not to stereotype but an Egyptian guy who always wears sunglasses is also not unique. (But is a potential clue).
Also according to Bill Warner's blog, Said was said to be quiet in his cab but also known for driving/being a bit erratic. Said is a little too friendly here and this person makes no mention of Said being a bit crazy behind the wheel.
Everyone has a twin and some stories are just coincidental.
I praise this person for going to the FBI, and I don't want to discourage potential tipsters. This tipster did the absolute right thing.
However, it doesn't mean they weren't mistaken.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 27, 2018 3:03:12 GMT -5
Also I want to add it is a very good tip, just explaining not to jump to conclusions and say it's definitely him based on one person's account.
This man could very well have been Said, but always be cautiously optimistic.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 27, 2018 7:41:07 GMT -5
Small correction. I double checked and Yaser Said was fired from a cab company in 2003 because customers said he was "crazy"- they don't specify why customers complained so it may have been something else other than his driving.
Still this potential tipster makes no mention of "Said" behaving in any unusual manner during their car rides with him.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Oct 29, 2018 0:22:14 GMT -5
Small correction. I double checked and Yaser Said was fired from a cab company in 2003 because customers said he was "crazy"- they don't specify why customers complained so it may have been something else other than his driving. Still this potential tipster makes no mention of "Said" behaving in any unusual manner during their can rides with him. I want to say it was a Fox News documentary or The Hunt that said he was crazy as in he always carried a weapon, but then again he does seem like the kind that wouldn’t mind putting others at risk. Also on another note, we finally have Yaser Said as our public enemy #1, which is huge especially considering he’s currently on the Top 10 list. |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Nov 12, 2018 11:55:39 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 12, 2018 12:01:54 GMT -5
There's always hope, but if Yaser is ever caught, it will be very hard to keep that under wraps.
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