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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jan 13, 2020 19:39:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there’s been talk in Congress about imposing sanctions against Honduras due to their lackluster efforts in this case? Has happened in other cases (Juan Abrego-Garcia was arrested after Congress began discussing the possibility of removing Mexico’s ability to take out international loans). This is a very tricky situation because Juan Abrego-Garcia was in charge of the Gulf Cartel, a group that challenged U.S. agents in matamoros in 1995. Also Abrego-Garcia was speculated to have a network of corruption and people willing to bend things in his favor even in the highest echelons of the Government. The United States could impose sanctions to return Flores, but it would be counter productive for their drug war in Honduras, plus Flores isn’t a known trafficker as far as we know. They are getting traffickers back from there to be tried in U.S. courts. Maybe what we need is special cooperation from Honduras and getting them to extradite Flores, as long as he’s not in Gracias A Dios Department (Province), because if he’s there you can forget about them making an effort. Also another key aspect is finding out where exactly in Honduras was Alexis Flores born. Extradition in the end is what will exhaust this process. I have more hope for Ryan Rivera-Meister being brought back from Guatemala, and Bhadreshkumar Patel being brought back from India than I do Flores being brought back from Honduras. |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jan 28, 2020 16:24:02 GMT -5
So here’s a video of a Spanish news network interviewing Iriana DeJesus’s mother in July 2010, nearly 10 years ago. She talks about the last time she saw Iriana and when they told her Iriana had been murdered, and the exact date they told her they had identified Alexis Flores as the killer (on March 23, 2007). DeJesus’s mother says that “they” meaning the investigators say they’re positive that Flores is in Honduras despite earlier reports that a Flores could be back in the United States and has been there since he was deported from the US in 2004/2005 and is still in hiding out there. The mother also says that she just wants law enforcement to just go to Honduras and capture him already. youtu.be/iuQ8nFU-jDcAlso on the plus side Honduran news outlets reported on Flores in November 2019 www.proceso.hn/actualidad/7-actualidad/hondureno-encabeza-lista-de-los-hispanos-mas-buscados-por-el-fbi-en-2019.html |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 28, 2020 18:51:15 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not sure how relevant the article is since it's about the FBI top ten overall and they just mention that a Honduran tops the list, it's not really specifically about Flores.
The FBI for whatever reason seems to have stopped publicizing the Flores manhunt- not only has not been on any post-AMW show but there's never Facebook postings from the agency about him, Twitter posting from the FBI about him etc... And the only two options are they're close to capturing him/this has become an international cooperation case and they're just trying to negotiate and don't think they need the publicity and/or they've for all practical purposes given up like they have on Brad Bishop. I really hope it's the former and not the latter, but the FBI has been oddly quiet about Flores in the past few years. And the question is whether it's a positive or negative sign.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jan 28, 2020 20:43:08 GMT -5
The last articles in the U.S. media were from 2015 for the 15th anniversary of the murder of Iriana Dejesus and during the 65th anniversary of the Top Ten List, a Philadelphia station literally discussed Eric Frein who had been captured and replaced for a few months at the time instead of talking in-depth about the 2 that were on the list at the time, Alexis Flores and Semion Mogilevich.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 6:35:45 GMT -5
Today would have been Iriana DeJesus' 25th birthday.
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Post by King Of Clubs on Mar 2, 2020 7:41:06 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there’s been talk in Congress about imposing sanctions against Honduras due to their lackluster efforts in this case? Has happened in other cases (Juan Abrego-Garcia was arrested after Congress began discussing the possibility of removing Mexico’s ability to take out international loans). I'm not sure. But I would love to see that happen! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2020 6:12:11 GMT -5
Today is the 20th anniversary.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Oct 5, 2020 22:38:53 GMT -5
I know this has been thrown around as a plausible theory, but I’m starting to shift away from thinking Flores in hiding out in Honduras.
Granted if he’s hiding over there but he and/or his family likely wouldn’t live a quiet or happy life if Alexis is living openly with family.
My theory is Flores likely returned to the United States in recent years (one reason I will theorize is his family getting a lot of backlash for harboring him, if that’s the case) and Flores was urged by his family to leave, and also due to the lack of economic opportunities in Honduras, it’s what I theorize, what pushed him to return to the U.S. or perhaps settled in Mexico.
Especially after the capture of Yaser Said, I won’t discredit the possibility that Flores may have snuck back into the U.S. or is living a quiet life in Mexico. The guy is probably miserable as hell in Honduras especially with the crime being publicized over there now.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 5, 2020 23:12:24 GMT -5
I think the most glaring difference between Said and Flores though is the amount of publicity the FBI did on Said even after his near-capture in 2017, compared with the radio silence they've done on Flores- it's very frustrating to not know if this means they've given up or are closing in.
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Post by tekarukiari1995 on Oct 8, 2020 16:01:07 GMT -5
For an FBI Top Ten case, this one seems dead and nothing has been reported on it for years. Still baffles me why there hasn't been much movement with this one (no renewed interest in the case, no age progression photos) because for a guy to be on a FBI Top Ten list I highly doubt he looks the same back then in the 2000s.
IMO i think he needs to be replaced as there are much more recent cases to put + even if he is removed they will move him to Murders section as they did with Glen Stewart Godwin, still wanted by the FBI.
Still a great danger to the public but the question is there any recent tips or what, anything?
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Oct 8, 2020 20:40:45 GMT -5
I think when they select new Top Ten Fugitives to replace Mederos and Said, they’ll probably bump Flores off the list in order to get a recent (2020) fugitive on the list that could be caught quickly.
At the moment, it’s either Alexis Flores or Eugene Palmer that get taken off the list, but as mentioned, there hasn’t been an age progressed image of Alexis Flores in 13 years, JDB had some done on him in 2010, Fisher in 2005 and 2016, Said in 2014. Heck they haven’t even pulled a Fidel Urbina and haven’t located additional photos of him.
Also Flores isn’t a case that’s reported on as much, and the last report on him was a Honduran news article from November 2019, which is good, but nothing about him in U.S. media in a few years.
It all pretty much boils down to the extradition treaty with Honduras which is the hurdle and how they’ve been reluctant to extradite their nationals, and that would be the clause I’d use to remove Flores unfortunately, as messed up and brutal the murder of Irianna Dejesus was, I think the only way this case can only be solved via diplomatic negotiations with Honduras.
Another point I wanted to make is the FBI never established a profile on Alexis Flores like they have with Robert Fisher, Jason Brown, Greg Carlson etc... and I tend to think that if he’s not hiding out.... perhaps years after fleeing to Honduras that Flores may have had a lot of guilt living with what he did or fear of retribution from other people that he likely committed suicide in a very remote area in the jungle to avoid being located and we don’t have access to John Doe records out there and likely wasn’t reported if this did happen.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 8, 2020 21:14:57 GMT -5
Although I'm concerned by the lack of attention on Flores' case, with two open slots and a few other recent additions that in theory are catchable fugitives, there's no desperate need to replace him on the list. This case is too tragic and I hope they at least wait a few more years in case of some sort of miracle.
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Post by Maddog on Oct 8, 2020 23:16:25 GMT -5
Although I'm concerned by the lack of attention on Flores' case, with two open slots and a few other recent additions that in theory are catchable fugitives, there's no desperate need to replace him on the list. This case is too tragic and I hope they at least wait a few more years in case of some sort of miracle. I don’t think the FBI (at least for now) wants to drop him from the list. They invested a lot of time and effort into this case, and when Flores was known as “Carlo Doe”, he was on their website for years. There may very well be a backdoor discussion with Honduras that we are not aware of. |
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Post by ninja108 on Oct 10, 2020 3:28:32 GMT -5
Although I'm concerned by the lack of attention on Flores' case, with two open slots and a few other recent additions that in theory are catchable fugitives, there's no desperate need to replace him on the list. This case is too tragic and I hope they at least wait a few more years in case of some sort of miracle. What always gets me about this case is the fact they had him in prison and if the DNA system hadn't been backlogged, he would have been found out and put on death row where he belongs. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 22, 2020 17:10:02 GMT -5
Alexis Flores is the headliner/first photo shown in the lineup for this week on the FBI website. Is this the first time in like three years? Granted they haven't publicized him otherwise that much the past few years, but this is the closest thing to it and hopefully a decent sign.
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