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Post by HeadMarshal on Aug 8, 2019 9:29:27 GMT -5
Just want to bring up that just because a fugitive is removed from the FBI 10 Most Wanted List, does not mean the FBI will stop investigating the manhunt. As we saw from Donald Eugene Webb, whose remains were located over a decade after being removed in 2007, the 10 MW List is supposed to be meant for cases where the public can assist in apprehending the fugitive with the major publicity.
I won't say if Flores should be removed or not, but one has to wonder if investigations and internal talks between the US and Honduras will be more helpful than tips from the public going forward in this particular case.
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Post by Maddog on Aug 8, 2019 17:38:51 GMT -5
Thing is, most countries actually won’t extradite their own citizens (Mexico being one of the biggest exceptions). I don’t know if it’s that type of policy that is preventing his extradition, but you would think that if the Honduran Government was concerned that he would face the death penalty, the Attorney General of PA would promise that it wouldn’t be sought.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Aug 8, 2019 22:21:19 GMT -5
Thing is, most countries actually won’t extradite their own citizens (Mexico being one of the biggest exceptions). I don’t know if it’s that type of policy that is preventing his extradition, but you would think that if the Honduran Government was concerned that he would face the death penalty, the Attorney General of PA would promise that it wouldn’t be sought. There is a law in place that the Honduran government will only allow extradition if its for terrorism and drug trafficking. Earlier this year when FBI Murder Fugitive Napoleon Castro was captured in El Salvador and extradited back to Los Angeles where he was wanted out of, the special agent of the FBI L.A. office, Scott Gariola said that while El Salvador has been sending back its citizens, in the same region Honduras and Belize are not as cooperative with extradition requests. That’s pretty telling since they do have an individual believed to be in Honduras and part of you wonders if Alexis Flores has been found in the years since but the Honduran Government simply declined to extradite him or even find him.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 9, 2019 0:26:32 GMT -5
Yeah not to beat a dead horse but we established that Honduras extradite their own but mainly drug trafficking cased- as messed up.as that is that they care more about some guy who trafficks a minuscule amount of cocaine compared to a little girl raped and murdered by the alleged assailant.
However the top ten list still keeps publicity and pressure on the case.
We've seen a few top ten cases, granted mainly in Mexico, where the country knew where they were and finally sent the fugitive back due to pressure from the list's publicity.
I think some of the colder cases on the list are standing out and frustrating us even more than they already have since the list has had a bit of a capture lull. But eventually someone does get caught. I predict by the end of September, we'll see someone captured.
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Post by Maddog on Aug 9, 2019 11:52:17 GMT -5
Raising the reward may help. It could destabilize his sense of security in Honduras.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Aug 19, 2019 21:54:32 GMT -5
Here’s a travel advisory for Honduras. There’s the remote Gracias A Dios Department (State/Province) that is very remote that is currently at a Do Not Travel status and it gives me hope that Alexis Flores May have and may be hiding in that province if nothing has come up in several years. Reconsider travel to Honduras due to crime. Some areas have increased risk. Read the entire Travel Advisory. Do not travel to: Gracias a Dios Department due to crime. Violent crime, such as homicide and armed robbery, is common. Violent gang activity, such as extortion, violent street crime, rape, and narcotics and human trafficking, is widespread. Local police and emergency services lack sufficient resources to respond effectively to serious crime. Read the Safety and Security section on the country information page. If you decide to travel to Honduras: Avoid demonstrations Be aware of your surroundings. Avoid walking or driving at night. Do not physically resist any robbery attempt. Be extra vigilant when visiting banks or ATMs. Do not display signs of wealth, such as wearing expensive watches or jewelry. Exercise caution using cell phones in public, including inside of cars while stopped in traffic. Visit our website for Travel to High-Risk Areas. Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive Alerts and make it easier to locate you in an emergency. Follow the Department of State on Facebook and Twitter. Review the Crime and Safety Report for Honduras. U.S. citizens who travel abroad should always have a contingency plan for emergency situations. Review the Traveler’s Checklist. Gracias a Dios Department Gracias a Dios is an isolated area with high levels of criminal activity and drug trafficking. Infrastructure is weak, government services are limited, and police and military presence is scarce. The U.S. government has limited ability to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens in Gracias a Dios as U.S. government employees are restricted from traveling to the area. travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/honduras-travel-advisory.html
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Aug 22, 2019 0:16:49 GMT -5
I’m back to being optimistic here and I think there is hope that Flores can actually get captured.
Reason I say this is because the travel advisory posted above mentions 1 particular department (state/province) that is very dangerous, remote and has a lot of criminal activity going on.
Now let’s look at our cards, it’s pretty hard for me to believe that Flores may be hiding out in a place like Tegucigalpa (Honduras capital city) and living openly with people knowing him and his family.
I think if Flores would still be in hiding so to speak, it’d be in Gracias A Dios, Honduras, it’s very remote so they won’t even know and his family could live in peace without being shamed publicly. If Flores is hiding there it would explain why he hasn’t been found and captured, also why it would be difficult to have any U.S. government personnel on hand as help for a potential capture operation as they are advised not to travel there given its Tier 4 status.
At least Federal agents were on standby for the capture of Eric Conn, but in rural Honduras where organized crime and gangs overpower the weak infrastructure there, its pretty much walking into an ambush or a ruby ridge style stand-off.
Even if Flores’ family isn’t helping him, I think that’s an ideal place for him to hide, but then there’s the possibility he may be caught in the crossfires of the violence.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 22, 2019 0:26:24 GMT -5
Flores would be a hard guy to catch if it is truly not known where he is, although we seem to be in agreement that this is likely more of an extradition hurdle case. The OP photo is him with a baby-faced and there have. been no age-progression photos as he likely looks much older by now. But I would agree he may be choosing to hide in a more rural as opposed to urban area of the country.
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Post by Maddog on Aug 22, 2019 1:08:48 GMT -5
Since Flores had originally entered the country illegally, I figured there was a chance he could return. I think that’s out of the question as far as a possibility goes, now.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 4, 2019 23:08:58 GMT -5
One interesting thing ipintern, our new forum member who works for In Pursuit let us know is that they submitted a case of a fugitive on our site named Tong Wu- wanted for the murder of his roommate in Philadelphia- but the Philadelphia P.D. is one the departments least willing to work with them and turned them down. So perhaps this is why Alexis Flores has yet to air on The Hunt or In Pursuit despite John Walsh saying he wanted to air him one more time before he retires. (And JW is still my hero but I've politely called him out on that ) Granted it is an FBI case but it still is also a Philly case and I assume would need some sort of cooperation from them.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Oct 5, 2019 18:44:28 GMT -5
One interesting thing ipintern, our new forum member who works for In Pursuit let us know is that they submitted a case of a fugitive on our site named Tong Wu- wanted for the murder of his roommate in Philadelphia- but the Philadelphia P.D. is one the departments least willing to work with them and turned them down. So perhaps this is why Alexis Flores has yet to air on The Hunt or In Pursuit despite John Walsh saying he wanted to air him one more time before he retires. (And JW is still my hero but I've politely called him out on that ) Granted it is an FBI case but it still is also a Philly case and I assume would need some sort of cooperation from them. This would be problematic say if they wanted to profile Flores one day, they need to make interviews with the Philadelphia PD to get their insight and what’s been going on investigation wise. I mean imagine an episode where they’re only interviewing FBI Philadelphia agents and not the head of police in Philly, that’s like saying I’m going to a wedding and the bride and groom don’t want to participate, it just doesn’t make sense.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 5, 2019 23:27:05 GMT -5
They aired Flores multiple times on AMW, but they were much shorter segments. So they potentially might not have as much as they want to work with to make an expanded airing.
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Post by ninja108 on Oct 6, 2019 11:28:47 GMT -5
Makes no sense the Philly PD wouldn't want to work with AMW on a case like this,given the nature of it.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 6, 2019 18:29:07 GMT -5
Makes no sense the Philly PD wouldn't want to work with AMW on a case like this,given the nature of it. It is just my speculation and not official reason as to why Flores is yet to air on The Hunt or In Pursuit, as the Philly P.D. apparently has declined to participate with John Walsh on company on other fugitive cases. It could or could not be a possible reason, but wanted to throw that out there.
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Post by Maddog on Jan 13, 2020 18:59:27 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there’s been talk in Congress about imposing sanctions against Honduras due to their lackluster efforts in this case?
Has happened in other cases (Juan Abrego-Garcia was arrested after Congress began discussing the possibility of removing Mexico’s ability to take out international loans).
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