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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 10, 2013 10:51:12 GMT -5
(Above photo credit: abc15.com) Fugitive Profile as of August 18th, 2014: (Based on FBI.gov profile) Date(s) of Birth Used: April 13, 1961 Place of Birth: Brooklyn, New York Height: 6'0" Weight: 190 pounds Build: Medium Occupations: Surgical Catheter Technician, Respiratory Therapist, Fireman Hair: Brown Eyes: Blue Complexion: Light Sex: Male Race: White Nationality: American Scars and Marks: Fisher has surgical scars on his lower back. Remarks: Fisher is physically fit and is an avid outdoorsman, hunter, and fisherman. He has a noticeable gold crown on his upper left first bicuspid tooth. He may walk with an exaggerated erect posture and his chest pushed out due to a lower back injury. Fisher is known to chew tobacco heavily. He has ties to New Mexico and Florida. Fisher is believed to be in possession of several weapons, including a high-powered rifle. Who to call if you've seen him: If you have any information concerning this person, please contact your local FBI office or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate. Tips can also be submitted anonymously online to the FBI at tips.fbi.gov UPDATE: As of September 7th, 2022, anyone with information on this fugitive's whereabouts can also call or text "In Pursuit" on the Investigation Discovery channel at 833-378-7783 and/or submit a tip at the show's website: www.InPursuitTips.com AMW Archive Case Description: A Family's Murder Hidden By FlamesOn the morning of April 10, 2001, police and fire units responded to reports of an explosion at the Fisher residence in Scottsdale, Ariz. The fire burned for hours and when it was finally extinguished, officials made a gruesome discovery inside the rubble -- the bodies of 38-year-old Mary Fisher, 12-year-old Britteny and ten-year-old Bobby Jr. To make matters worse, authorities quickly determined that the mother and children did not die in the fire, they had been murdered in their beds the night before. Mary was shot in the back of the head and her throat had been sliced. The children's necks were also slashed. Arson investigators said that the house was rigged to blow because a lit candle was left in the home and the gas furnace had been disconnected. Most shocking of all, the main suspect was none other than head of the Fisher family, Robert Fisher. Cops believe that when Mary Fisher confronted her husband about a ending their marriage, Fisher decided to avoid a messy divorce and simply wiped the slate clean by killing his family. Police tell AMW that Fisher fled soon after the murders, taking his wife's SUV and the family dog, a Queensland Heeler named "Blue." The Hunt For Robert Fisher
Ten days later, police located Mary Fisher's SUV abandoned in Tonto National Forest, 100 miles north of Scottsdale. Despite a massive search, all that was recovered was the family dog, Blue. There was no sign of Robert Fisher or where he might have gone. The FBI got involved a year later and Fisher was quickly added to their Top Ten Fugitive list where he's been ever since. In 2003, AMW brought in renowned FBI agent Ralph DiFonzo, a 30 year veteran who is credited with catching two of the FBI's Top Ten Most Wanted fugitives. While profiling the murder suspect, Agent DiFonzo discovered Fisher has a "Jekyll-Hyde" personality. The fugitive's life was full of inconsistencies. Fisher worked as a lowly hospital tech and often bragged about saving lives. Yet, on the weekends, he hunted animals and smeared their blood on his body. The FBI reports that Fisher was a born-again Christian, yet he frequented strip clubs and was accused of often cheating on his wife. "This guy was a balance of good and evil it seemed like for a very long time," says Agent DiFonzo. Now, authorities say Robert Fisher could be hiding anywhere in the United States. He has a noticeable gold front tooth that replaced a left front bicuspid and also walks with an exaggerated stiff posture due to chronic back pain. Thoughts? Many believe Fisher killed himself after his crime, and his remains are in one of the many caves in the forest in Arizona to which Fisher drove to and left his dog behind. The FBI sent a notice to residents in Northern Arizona saying Fisher may still be quietly living among them: Over the years, there was an AMW lead that Fisher may be living in a quiet fishing community called Grand Isle, Louisiana. Wherever he is, Fisher will remain one of my most wanted fugitives or at least stay on my dirty dozen until the day AMW or the FBI removes him from their lists. And when that day happens, I hope it's for a positive reason. Admittedly, my opinion varies day to day and I am personally torn as to whether or not I think Fisher is alive or dead. I usually don't mind when death is a fugitive's ending, spares taxpayer expenses on a trial and hell is a worse place, but I take it the chances of finding Fisher's body are very slim is if he dead, considering the amount of time and decay. So for this reason, I hope he's still alive, and this coward will one day face justice. What do you guys think? Is Fisher dead or alive? www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/robert-william-fisher/viewwww.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/20120419robert-fisher-may-still-arizona-fbi-warns.htmlweb.archive.org/web/20110820012639/http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=25245#case*********UPDATE*********On Wednesday, November 3rd, 2021, Robert Fisher was removed from the FBI's website as a wanted fugitive. However, he remains on the FBI's website as an overall most wanted fugitive. *******UPDATE********Admin Note: If you have any (news-related) updates on this case, please contact us here: amwfans.com/thread/1662/website-contact-form
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jan 10, 2013 15:24:57 GMT -5
The biggest issue I have with the committing suicide theory is that Fisher's dog was near the family SUV. If Fisher fled to a nearby cave to commit suicide wouldn't the dog have stayed with his master? It's a theory both of us have discussed before and it puzzles me.
Then there's the possibility that Fisher may have been harbored by someone after the family slaying. Question is, who would harbor Fisher and would they still be with him today?
I can't manage to figure Fisher's possible whereabouts unlike many other fugitives because I can't tell as to what he was planning to do in the days and weeks after the family slaying. All we know for sure is that he withdrew money from a Scottsdale ATM and the SUV was found 100 miles from Scottsdale in a National Forest area.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 10, 2013 15:35:40 GMT -5
When it came Beacher Hackney is it seemed pretty obvious, at least to me you and Pakman and some others that he was likely deceased. I think I missed the episode with the "dressing as a woman" lead so I don't know if that would have changed my opinion, but still, I always believed Hackney was dead, while with Fisher I am only "leaning towards" his being deceased and wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong.
The two issues you raised are the two biggest issues I have as well as to the deceased theory. Why wouldn't his dog be with him and why would he withdraw money only to kill himself later?
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Post by ja2013 on Apr 4, 2013 22:33:08 GMT -5
The Robert Fisher case is my top case, I am most knowledgeable of this case out of any that I follow. We all know the anniversary is coming up on the 10th, 12 years have passed and not much has changed. I could fill this thread with tons of theories and more that I have on this case but I first wanted to start out with the matter of Mary's vehicle. On April 20th 2001, police recovered Mary's Toyota 4Runner which had been missing since the day of the explosion. It was found off an improved forest service road in Tonto National Forest, roughly ~40-50 miles from any regular road, parked into between trees. Aerial view of how the SUV was initially found before police towed it away. It was found with the mirrors moved against the windows to prevent the mirrors from hitting the trees when it was parked in=between them. Also, all the windows in the car were left rolled down (they weren't automatic). There's sometimes a misconception that it was initially found with the front tires flat, the tires were intact when the vehicle was found, the initial police on the scene flatted the tires believing he may return to the vehicle before backup and SWAT arrived. Here's some photos of the SVU when it was taken into the police impound and searched for evidence: What you'll find interesting is there wasn't a single fingerprint found on or in the vehicle, the only fingerprint found in the entire vehicle was on this coffee mug: The print matched Robert Fisher's index finger from his right hand. Not one single human hair was found in the vehicle either, no prints from any of the doors, etc. This led investigators to believe the car was completely cleaned out prior to it being abandoned in the woods. I have a few different theories on all this. Robert Fisher's baseball cap that he was pictured in the ATM surveillance with was also found in the car, it was on the passenger seat (not pictured). Police moved it since they had to use the scent off it for the cadaver and search dogs when the search first began.Things for you guys to make a note of, then formulate your opinions.(1) If Robert Fisher was planning to kill himself, why thoroughly clean the car down prior to ditching it (2) If he wasn't the one who cleaned it, who was and why. (3) Why would it matter whether to move the mirrors to fit the vehicle in-between trees, they weren't automatic so this meant whoever parked the vehicle up there, stopped, moved the mirrors than parked it.
(4) Why were all the windows left down.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Apr 5, 2013 5:23:07 GMT -5
ja2013, was it known if Fisher had knowledge of the Tonto National Forest considering the SUV was left so far away from any regular road? Also were there any tire tracks aside from Mary's SUV's. If Robert had an accomplice, then that accomplice would have needed to have some sort of transportation.
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Post by ja2013 on Apr 5, 2013 9:16:04 GMT -5
ja2013, was it known if Fisher had knowledge of the Tonto National Forest considering the SUV was left so far away from any regular road? Also were there any tire tracks aside from Mary's SUV's. If Robert had an accomplice, then that accomplice would have needed to have some sort of transportation. This was an area known well to Fisher, he camped in this particular area several times. Police never found tire tracks but they did find some shoe imprints, size 13, they were believed to be Fisher's. Oddly enough the trail of shoe imprints lead into that cave (Cave 41, the only cave they actually searched at the time). There's a lot of speculation about him hiding out in a cave or going very deep in one to kill himself but the setup of these caves are very challenging and require skill and accessories to navigate even a few feet inside.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 5, 2013 9:47:34 GMT -5
So where do you think Fisher is? Living as a survivalist somewhere? Or has he made his way into a small town?
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Post by ja2013 on Apr 5, 2013 10:21:02 GMT -5
So where do you think Fisher is? Living as a survivalist somewhere? Or has he made his way into a small town? I have mixed opinions as this quite a tricky case. Some days I think he's dead, others I think he's alive and even some I question whether he even is responsible for this crime.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 5, 2013 10:31:18 GMT -5
So where do you think Fisher is? Living as a survivalist somewhere? Or has he made his way into a small town? I have mixed opinions as this quite a tricky case. Some days I think he's dead, others I think he's alive and even some I question whether he even is responsible for this crime. Whoa. Every fugitive is technically innocent until proven guilty, sometimes I get a little passionate but try my best to put allegedly when discussing fugitives on this forum, but is the reason you think that just because this case is such a mystery every scenario has entered your head? Or is there another reason? IMO, there's so many reasons to point to Fisher being the culprit, the AMW interview I forgot who but one of those interviewed told Fisher's wife he was capable of killing her (but never did they think he'd hurt the children), the fact that he withdrew money from the ATM. The fact that everybody apparently survived except him... But like I said I have no idea how seriously you take that scenario or if it's just a random thought that's entered your head.
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Post by ja2013 on Apr 5, 2013 11:26:26 GMT -5
Lol I was expecting that reaction but hear me out, this may sound "out-there" but I do have some evidence and thought behind it. This is based on who Robert Fisher was as a person, not how the media paints him. I'm definitely not in his defense but I do feel the media surrounding this case has done their best to make him look a lot worse than he actually was.
Robert Fisher was by no means prefect but he was actually a religious man and did work hard for his family. He wasn't a very good liar nor deceiver; as well as you know he cheated on Mary. This was sometime before the murders (1998 or so), he apparently contracted a urinary track infection then he felt so guilty about it that he actually confessed it to Mary (this is the first affair). This subsequently resulted in a fight which he than took and retreated to the same spot where his last trace surfaced. After a few days in the woods, he returned home and they both agreed to get marriage counseling.
Now about the physical crime itself and the hours leading up to it. April 9th was a Monday, it was a day off for Robert Fisher so he spent most of the day doing work on the house. He put in insinuation in the attic area of the home and he actually changed the oil that day to his Dodge Ram. The kids arrived home that day, Mary took Bobby Jr. to a hunting safety course and Robert took Brittney to an event at her school. Eventually they return home and go on with their nights. According to neighbors they heard Robert and Mary having an argument at 10 pm that night and as we all know he is then seen taking $280 out of an ATM at around 10:40 or so. Couples have fights, it's bound to happen doesn't necessarily mean it's the end of the world. There's the matter of what happened from when Robert Fisher was last seen on the ATM surveillance until when the house exploded in flames sometime after 8 am the next morning. The investigation revealed as you may know, a natural gas line was disconnected and a candle was placed in the middle of the floor to ignite the gas after a large amount had accumulated. Also police note, a large amount of accelerate was used, keyword large. They were never able to actually link what chemical was used as the accelerate, most speculate gasoline but the amount used was a lot (where would it all of came from?). As you know, Mary was shot in the back of the head, this shot wasn't heard from a single neighbor and you'll note this was a quiet cul-de-sac where you could hear a pin drop. The kids both had their throats slashed, however all the victims where still laying in their beds. What I find strange is how could someone like Fisher pull off such a professional and methodical plan, a man who felt so guilty about having an affair he had to confess it to his wife. Fisher had no criminal history, not even a single speeding ticket and also had what you would consider a "pristine" background. I basically wonder how someone like Fisher could calmly shoot his wife, kill both of his kids, than rig the house to blowup while covering his tracks 100%. I just don't feel he had the "guts" so to say to calmly pull this off than escape and how well everything went down was just too prefect. This all was calmly done and thought through every step of the way, even up to Mary's SUV, not one single shred of evidence left in it. Yeah this all may sound out there but I have read every police report on this case, every news article, watched the documentary, read about in the books, etc. This is only one theory, I have many on this case since it is quite fascinating.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 5, 2013 11:46:42 GMT -5
That is a unique take on the case I admit, lol. But I hope one day if he's still alive Fisher gets arrested and all the facts come out, and the jury makes the right decision.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 9, 2013 20:45:42 GMT -5
As ja mentioned, the 10-year anniversary of the murder of Fisher's wife and children is tomorrow. There is an article below about it. Nothing much new mentioned except that the FBI has received many leads and none have panned out. Fisher has ties to New Mexico and Florida, as we all know is a hunter and fisherman, and it also mentions the leads last year about him possibly living in the Payson area of Gila County, Arizona: www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/20130409hunt-for-robert-fisher-continues-scottsdale.htmlAs I've said before, Fisher is my #1 most wanted fugitive, and I really want to see the day where we either found out he killed himself and/or hear he is arrested and will face trial.
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Post by ja2013 on Apr 9, 2013 21:12:30 GMT -5
I've been monitoring all the AZ stations, I like to see when they do coverage of the case on anniversaries. Nothing new to report ever but it's a hope I guess, not really sure what the resolution of this case is going to be. He could just remain on the list for decades to come with no resolution, who knows though.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 9, 2013 21:32:14 GMT -5
I sadly get that feeling he may stay on the list for decades before the FBI decides he must have killed himself with no leads to show. The only way for us to find out what happened is if he is still alive and he does get arrested. If he is dead, we may unfortunately never find out
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Post by ja2013 on Apr 9, 2013 21:42:31 GMT -5
Say he did kill himself deep in the woods that day, how would the dog have made it back to the vehicle? It apparently made a nest under it as if it was waiting for him to return. It's quite strange...
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