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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 16, 2022 9:34:18 GMT -5
I wonder if going forward we’ll get a dynamic similar to 2011, when after Bin Laden, whose bounty stood at $50 Million (doubled in 2007) was killed, it turned the heat on Bulger who had a $2 Million reward, and wound up getting caught not long after.
Bulger himself confessed that after Bin Laden was killed he felt the heat was on him, and perhaps going forward, with Caro-Quintero captured, the heat will be on Jose Villarreal-Hernandez now and he hopefully ends up getting caught soon as well.
A final point, just like when they replaced Bin Laden with Eric Toth, I hope the FBI replaces Caro-Quintero with someone like Michael Pratt, Gregory Whitehead, William Willingham, Bruce Sawhill, or Hung Tien Pham, because in all the years since 2006 since I’ve been into the FBI top ten list, the best replacement of a fugitive IMO was when they replaced Bin Laden with Eric Toth.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 19, 2022 6:32:02 GMT -5
Not trying to put a damper on great news but seeing RCQ still playing games when it comes to extradition was why I wasn't sure the top ten list was the best usage to catch him as he's never really been truly in hiding, but it's always been rather more putting pressure on Mexico to get him.
I think Yulan Carias, Ruja Ignatova, and Jose Villarreal-Hernandez are all catchable, my issue has always been the top ten list isn't needed to catch them, and there are other creative ways to draw attention to their cases while putting more catchable domestic fugitives that actually will be caught via the public on the list.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 19, 2022 6:32:55 GMT -5
Also at least RCQ is in custody and he can rot in Mexico or the U.S. at least he's no longer a free man.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 20, 2022 10:59:49 GMT -5
The FBI finally made a top ten addition I agree with with Omar Cardenas! Thank you! (Although it unfortunately came at the expense of Eugene Palmer but as sad as I am for Tammy's family at the lack of closure due to his age it is a decision I sadly agree with).
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 20, 2022 11:01:32 GMT -5
Also let's please give credit to outlawtaco as I believe he predicted Cardenas as #1 Most likely addition!
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 20, 2022 12:03:02 GMT -5
I agree with this addition 10000% and this is the type of case the FBI should be adding to its Top Ten List, but while I agree with Palmer’s addition I also agree with his removal from the list because he’s too old and I really hope Eugene Palmer if he’s dead died a brutal death, or if he’s gonna die, he dies a brutal death as well.
with Caro-Quintero captured, and Omar Cardenas IMO still possibly in California, and a possible quick capture, I could see both their slots open by fall.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 23, 2022 10:29:14 GMT -5
One thing I wanted to mention, they might not replace RCQ until he's officially extradited, even though it looks like things have progressed okay so far.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 24, 2022 20:22:21 GMT -5
One thing I wanted to mention, they might not replace RCQ until he's officially extradited, even though it looks like things have progressed okay so far. If Caro-Quintero’s extradition process takes 1-5 years I think they’ll long have replaced him by that time, but then again, when previous drug traffickers have been on the list, the FBI replaced them before they were even extradited, like Diego Montoya Sanchez and Eduardo Ravelo, Ravelo still hasn’t been extradited and it’s been over 4 years since his capture. While the FBI literally listed RCQ as captured the morning after the capture, the DEA has already listed him as captured even though it took them a few days, and the State Dept hasn’t listed him as captured yet. Personally I’m not sure what direction the FBI is going to take, but at this point each agency is clearly a separate agency and they’ll do as they see fit. Also if the FBI removed Palmer to add Cardenas without replacing RCQ its a sign that the FBI wants to clean house on the Top Ten List, make better choices going forward and getting rid of the stagnation that’s been prevalent on the list since 2019. Literally what has happened within the past month on the Top Ten List is similar to what happened in 2018, months after Caro-Quintero was added, Eduardo Ravelo got caught, and literally the next morning after that, Brad Bishop was removed and replaced by Antwan Mims. Same thing here, Ruja Ignatova (who spiritually replaces RCQ) gets added, RCQ gets caught, and days later Eugene Palmer is removed and replaced by Omar Cardenas. If Cardenas gets caught soon, that opens up 2 slots and IMO, the overall best additions that I liked were that of Lamont Stephenson and Greg Carlson, because they were both believed to be in the U.S., which the FBI needs to add a few fugitives believed to be here in order to have a quick capture and not worry about international extradition.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 30, 2022 18:09:55 GMT -5
While I think every fugitive on the Crimes Against Children section is dangerous and a menace to society, I want everyone’s opinion on this, but out of all the fugitives currently on the Crimes Against Children section of the FBI website, which one would any of you add to the Top Ten List and why?
Since it’s been nearly a decade since the FBI has added a child molestor/child pornographer to the list, with the FBI’s recent additions of Yulan Carias and Ruja Ignatova, both of whom are the only fugitives not charged with murder currently on the list, along with an opening present currently, I think the time is right to add one.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 30, 2022 18:27:15 GMT -5
Well Michael Pratt would technically count but I've always wanted Bruce Sawhill specifically to be added because I fear his friend/neighbor's daughter was not his only victim. I believe it was The Hunt reenactment where it was revealed that Kenni Jo allegedly told Bruce "she was off-limits"- in other words disgustingly basically saying it was okay for him to molest other girls but not his friend's daughter.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jul 30, 2022 19:44:49 GMT -5
While I think every fugitive on the Crimes Against Children section is dangerous and a menace to society, I want everyone’s opinion on this, but out of all the fugitives currently on the Crimes Against Children section of the FBI website, which one would any of you add to the Top Ten List and why? Since it’s been nearly a decade since the FBI has added a child molestor/child pornographer to the list, with the FBI’s recent additions of Yulan Carias and Ruja Ignatova, both of whom are the only fugitives not charged with murder currently on the list, along with an opening present currently, I think the time is right to add one. All I can say is, one who's been on the run a long time, but whom the publicity of the list could single-handedly flip the manhunt for. Sadly, I have no idea which manhunts the list can swing.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 30, 2022 20:15:17 GMT -5
I would go ahead and chose Gregory Whitehead because he sexually assaulted 2 teenage girls whom he lured them under the ruse of using them for housecleaning services, if that’s not deserving for the list I don’t know what is.
The fact that Whitehead’s case hasn’t gotten any significant media publicity besides the FBI website and us, and doesn’t have any age progressed images on his wanted poster yet, perhaps an addition may change that, and the possibility that he was seen leaving the borders of the United States, make it an international manhunt, which has become the Top Ten List’s strong suit.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Aug 5, 2022 19:26:47 GMT -5
I’ve been thinking about this for a few days, but as everyone knows by now, that Al-Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri was killed in an air strike in Afghanistan. The political aspect I’ll save it for another time on the other thread, but what I’m about to say in regards to this topic has to do with the list.
With the death of Al-Zawahiri, that only leaves Saif Al-Adel as not only the sole remaining “old school” Afghanistan-based person in that organization, he’s also the final fugitive wanted in connection to the August 1998, bombings at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which is the crime that got Bin Laden added to the list in 1999.
The FBI said they wouldn’t add any more terrorists to the Top Ten List after Bin Laden and I think the focus on domestic crimes is of key importance, but given how crazy the additions from the FBI have been since the start of the 2020s (or maybe since 2018 with RCQ), I think the FBI is capable of replacing Caro-Quintero with Saif Al-Adel because he’s the sole fugitive remaining in that horrific crime, he’s believed to be in Iran and it puts pressure on them, and Al-Adel has a lot in common with RCQ being part of the “old school” in their respective criminal lives.
Al-Adel is on the most wanted terrorist list so there’s no need for that and hopefully the FBI adds domestic cases like before 2020, but there’s always that possibility that the FBI would end up doing it given their recent selections to the list.
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Post by jaycb on Sept 16, 2022 19:34:34 GMT -5
Noticed that nobody has posted about the recent removal of Jason Derek Brown and his replacement, Michael James Pratt.
Does anyone think that we'll eventually find Jason Derek Brown, and how long do you guys think Pratt will be on the loose? My guess is 5 months tops, he is in my opinion pretty recognizable and seems to have a decent paper trail attached to him.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 17, 2022 6:01:40 GMT -5
Noticed that nobody has posted about the recent removal of Jason Derek Brown and his replacement, Michael James Pratt. Does anyone think that we'll eventually find Jason Derek Brown, and how long do you guys think Pratt will be on the loose? My guess is 5 months tops, he is in my opinion pretty recognizable and seems to have a decent paper trail attached to him. We have been discussing the removal of Brown both on his and Pratt's respective threads for days. Pratt is likely in another country but not uncatchable. .
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