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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 17, 2021 0:10:45 GMT -5
I wanted to say in fairness to the FBI I noticed they were planning to add a breaking news fugitive of ours- Malek Moore- to their website. Moore was wanted for a crime spree that involved the murder and robberies of two random strangers. It would have been a conundrum but I could have seen them begrudging delaying the addition of Juarez-Corro to add Moore. (How ironic would it be if after a year they finally add a case and then there's a breaking news fugitive they desperately need to add that they had no room for- when they had a year otherwise).
And yeah sorry toptenhunter if I sounded a little too annoyed- I guess I sort of got a little overreactive to being told to "calm down" when I was simply expressing concern- I guess now I know how women feel lol.
But like I said slightly more than half of the list being Hispanic is not that great optics but fine for now- but it is an issue that needs to be addressed if it becomes seven or eight in my opinion- not only to explain that it is because they are more likely to have fled the country but also stress for the most part the people they are getting justice for are usually Hispanic as well.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 17, 2021 19:24:37 GMT -5
It’s okay Scumhunter, I admit I worded it wrongly because I tried to multi task when I made that post so I had my mind elsewhere on what I was doing when I posted that.
Also speaking about breaking news….. if Brian Laundrie, the boyfriend of missing woman Gabby Petito is nowhere to be found and it murder charges are coming, I smell his addition to the Top Ten List if things start to escalate further in this case with him being nowhere to be found.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 17, 2021 20:21:19 GMT -5
Lol OK cool..
I was aware of the Gabby Petito case and was going to add it over the weekend but I have a backlog of site updates and the Jewish holidays backed me up even further. I wasn't aware the boyfriend is now missing. I'll try to see what I can do but if anyone wants to beat me to posting the case for Gabby they can, I'd still place it in the Missing on TV section for now and if Laundrie is officially charged we can move it to fugitives.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 17, 2021 23:45:30 GMT -5
I also wanted to point out the irony that the FBI isn't afraid of political correctness on their most highly publicized list, yet Elijah Hicks, who I believe is Native American but could pass for Hispanic, they don't list the race of. Of course the one time there's a racially ambiguous fugitive in appearance is the one time they don't say anything lol.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 20, 2021 0:16:50 GMT -5
Aldo wanted to address Brian Laundrie in that it's a huge national news case. When Steve Stephens was on the run, I remember the FBI agent in a press conference basically saying they weren't going to put him on the top ten list since everyone in America already knows who he is anyway.
So if there were an open slot and he officially became wanted for the murder of Gabby Petito (which right now is only hypothetical even if we're getting closer to it possibly becoming a reality), they might not necessarily feel a need to add him (despite the irony of our recent discussions). The list is more for cases that they want to make the public aware of when this is a case they're already aware. Same reason they never added El Chapo probably.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 20, 2021 9:12:34 GMT -5
Aldo wanted to address Brian Laundrie in that it's a huge national news case. When Steve Stephens was on the run, I remember the FBI agent in a press conference basically saying they weren't going to put him on the top ten list since everyone in America already knows who he is anyway. So if there were an open slot and he officially became wanted for the murder of Gabby Petito (which right now is only hypothetical even if we're getting closer to it possibly becoming a reality), they might not necessarily feel a need to add him (despite the irony of our recent discussions). The list is more for cases that they want to make the public aware of when this is a case they're already aware. Same reason they never added El Chapo probably. Personally I don’t see Brian Laundrie being added, but if Federal Authorities want that incentive to bring him in alive they’ll use the list. Another point is that law enforcement has been criticized for how the Gabby Petito case has been handled and perhaps, to quash the criticisms, the FBI would add Laundrie to the Top Ten List. Those are just the only reasons why Brian Laundrie would be added if things start to move, but personally I don’t see him being added as he either may have hurt himself or he’ll be cornered soon. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 20, 2021 9:17:27 GMT -5
Well right now it's a moot point since there's no open slots on the list anyway.  |
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 26, 2021 6:44:20 GMT -5
It looks that seeking law enforcement assistance section really isn't a good pool to predict top ten candidates after all- when I searched PACER neither Adarus Black nor Kashawn Roper had a UFAP (a bunch of cases involving Adarus's father who I found out is a notorious drug lord from Detroit though). Justin Smith was too common a name and there was no date of birth option so he was impossible to find but based on the others he probably didn't have a UFAP anyway.
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Post by Maddog on Sept 26, 2021 11:15:01 GMT -5
Aldo wanted to address Brian Laundrie in that it's a huge national news case. When Steve Stephens was on the run, I remember the FBI agent in a press conference basically saying they weren't going to put him on the top ten list since everyone in America already knows who he is anyway. So if there were an open slot and he officially became wanted for the murder of Gabby Petito (which right now is only hypothetical even if we're getting closer to it possibly becoming a reality), they might not necessarily feel a need to add him (despite the irony of our recent discussions). The list is more for cases that they want to make the public aware of when this is a case they're already aware. Same reason they never added El Chapo probably. Personally I don’t see Brian Laundrie being added, but if Federal Authorities want that incentive to bring him in alive they’ll use the list. Another point is that law enforcement has been criticized for how the Gabby Petito case has been handled and perhaps, to quash the criticisms, the FBI would add Laundrie to the Top Ten List. Those are just the only reasons why Brian Laundrie would be added if things start to move, but personally I don’t see him being added as he either may have hurt himself or he’ll be cornered soon. I agree: Plus, the case has already received extensive publicity, and they arguably wouldn’t benefit from any more. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 3, 2021 11:48:19 GMT -5
Well unfortunately my worst fears that I warned against have come true. I'm sorry but it is absolutely insane that the list is now 7 out of 10 hispanic fugitives. And I'm going to be honest- I bit my tongue- but the only addition I've been pleased by in the past few years is Octaviano Juarez-Corro.
Not only is this a bad look imo but the FBI keeps adding what I call "movie villain" fugitives to the list lately- what I mean by that is yes they are awful and the worst of the worst- but the FBI is supposed to also be a list where the public can help locate the fugitive. El Chapo was never added to the list and I feel it is likely because it wasn't needed- everyone knew who he was and it was a matter of cooperation between intelligence agencies. I'm not going to bite my tongue anymore. As awful as I feel for Kiki Camaerena, Rafael Caro-Quintero is going to be caught because of agency cooperation and the courts allowing his extradition, not because of the list. Same arguably for Jose Villarreal-Hernandez. This new guy Carias is arguably the worst one yet on paper don't get me wrong- but he's probably going to be caught because of agency intelligence- not because some housewife reading a newspaper sees his photo and reports him to the FBI.
This isn't the 1980s anymore and the FBI keeps adding cartel and gang fugitives and treating it as such- meanwhile fugitives like Michael Pratt that are also horrible are being left off.
Don't get me wrong, everyone added lately is absolutely evil and awful, but I feel Juarez-Corro was the only one that was a fit for the list, and the rest should be on some sort of new special gang list or criminal enterprise list. The top ten list needs fugitives more catchable as opposed to "movie villain" crime bosses that are more likely to be caught because of intelligence. (I feel Eduardo Ravelo was caught that way and him being on the top ten list was incidental)
Sorry I tried to be a team player and bite my tongue the past few years or show my unhappiness in passive aggressive ways but I can't anymore. It's very difficult for me to say as the forum admin who sometimes works with law enforcement on tips but I had to say it.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 3, 2021 11:50:33 GMT -5
Also I completely understand removing Robert Fisher as awful as I feel about it, it's who they replaced him with- I feel it should have been Michael Pratt- that I have a problem with.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 3, 2021 11:59:33 GMT -5
And like I said, we now have 7 fugitives without them at least addressing the elephant in the room- and in my opinion it would make things a little more palatable.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Nov 3, 2021 12:00:51 GMT -5
I agree they should’ve went with Michael Pratt, with this addition, it makes me wonder what in the absolute sam hell has been going on with the FBI since the capture of Lamont Stephenson.
I hope that the reason Yulan Carias was added was perhaps it was a bargaining chip, federal authorities here promised to help Honduras capture him in exchange for Alexis Flores.
I feel bad about Fisher being removed, but I sorta understand that given how the capture rate of season 3 of In Pursuit has gone, and how the USMS Top 15 hasn’t had any captures in awhile, perhaps these international cases have to do for now while the world situation with COVID improves a lot more.
The hope moving forward is that despite having a 7/10 Hispanic ratio, that the FBI opening up more slots due to captures, in order to make the list more diverse, individual and crime wise.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 3, 2021 12:03:55 GMT -5
That is a good point, if the FBI playing nice with Honduras on the Carias case helps with Alexis Flores, it will all be worth it. I'm sure we all thought Flores would be removed before Fisher even though Flores was a newer case (just it seemed hopeless extradition-wise), and perhaps this is the reason he wasn't.
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Post by Maddog on Nov 3, 2021 12:05:40 GMT -5
Heartsick they didn’t find Fisher. His alleged crimes bothered me more than any case on AMW. Ever. I still can’t understand who would slit the throats of their children while they are sleeping.
This makes me suspect the FBI just didn’t have any info to support him being alive.
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