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Post by TheWebDetective on Apr 23, 2015 15:25:30 GMT -5
 Law enforcement in Clancy, Montana have been searching for Nyleen Kay Marshall for over 30 years. She was featured in Unsolved Mysteries during the 1990s, but it is unclear if the case was featured in AMW or further than that. From The Charley Project: Missing Since: June 25, 1983 from Clancy, Montana Classification: Non-Family Abduction Date Of Birth: September 18, 1978 Age (at time of disappearance): 4 years old Height and Weight: 3’2, 29 pounds Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair, blue eyes. Marshall has a small mole above her left eyebrow. She has dimples on both cheeks. Marshall’s upper left baby tooth was chipped at the time she vanished. She has excess hair on her lower back. Marshall has a fair complexion and is right-handed. Clothing/Jewelry Description: A t-shirt and shorts. Marshall accompanied her family on a picnic outing in the in the Helena National Forest in the Elkhorn Mountains on June 25, 1983 near her hometown of Clancy, Montana. She was playing with some children who walked ahead of her for a moment. This was at approximately 4 pm. When her companions turned around, Marshall had vanished. An unknown man wearing a jogging suit was seen in the area just before she disappeared. It is not known if he was connected to Marshall’s case. Nyleen's family was questioned about her disappearance and her stepfather was considered a person of interest in her case. Her mother has since died; it was reported she was murdered in Mexico in the 1990s. In 1986, a person in Wisconsin sent investigators a typewritten letter saying he had picked up "a girl named Kay." The letter included details about Nyleen's case that had not been released to the general public. The writer explained that he had a good investment income, worked from home, and homeschooled Kay. He also traveled frequently with her all over the United States and in Canada and Great Britain. He said he loved the child and did not want to give her up, although he knew her family missed her. The letter was postmarked Madison, Wisconsin. An anonymous caller who claimed to be the author of the letter called the Child Find Network, a missing children's organization in New York, about Nyleen's case several times. The calls were traced to various phone booths, including one at a pharmacy in Edgerton, Wisconsin. Investigators stated the information in the phone calls and letter indicated sexual abuse. Nyleen has never been located. The person who wrote and telephoned authorities has not been identified, and it is unclear whether this individual actually had anything to do with her disappearance. It's possible Nyleen simply wandered away from the group and succumbed to the wilderness, but her disappearance is classified as a non-family abduction. Her case is unsolved. Thoughts? I personally believe she might have been kidnapped by someone who is either a creep, killed her and left her somewhere else or raised her themselves. I read snippets of the letters and they are quite disturbing. However she could've been lost in the woods and succumbed. I do like to know more of what happened to the mother too. www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/marshall_nyleen.htmlwww.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&act=viewChildDetail&caseLang=en_US&caseNum=601812&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US&seqNum=1www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?11732-MT-Nyleen-Kay-Marshall-4-Clancy-25-June-1983-Still-alive-after-all-this-time
Admin Note #1: According to missingkids.org, anyone having information should call 1-800-THE-LOST or the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office (Montana) - Missing Persons UnitAdmin Note #2: If you have any news-related updates on this case, please contact us here: amwfans.com/thread/1662/website-contact-form |
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Post by TheWebDetective on Jun 12, 2015 21:07:40 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 12, 2015 21:11:55 GMT -5
It is interesting that the man who wrote those letters knew details no one else knew. Even an innocent suspect can make one or two lucky guesses but it is odd for him to know so much.
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 29, 2017 4:57:42 GMT -5
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Post by TheWebDetective on Jan 7, 2018 17:24:31 GMT -5
YouTube personality Cayleigh Elise has a video on Marshall which even details the theory I noted sometime ago that she may be Racine County Jane Doe. I can not stress enough that letters given to authorities disturbingly details that Nyleen's possible abductor is sexually abusive. Which may be the reason some connect her to Racine Jane since she was indicated to being sexually abused. What's worse is that her mother's own death is shrouded in mystery. Although I wouldn't connect murder to Nyleen's disappearance (Mexico was rocked with crime in the 90s and 00s. Heck, I would connect it to the 90s femicides if anything), the fact the some sources state that Mexican authorities ruled it a suicide is sketchy.
Update: Due to Cayleigh Elise's unfortunate retirement from YouTube and unexpected deletion of her channel, the video I posted of her's regarding this case is gone. Here's a video from the Trace Evidence Podcast instead.
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Post by Maddog on Dec 6, 2018 12:23:37 GMT -5
Here’s what I have thought with regards to the anonymous letter writer: it may be a remote possibility, but I am wondering if the letter writer was a resident of Montana at the time of the abduction, and then later moved to Wisconsin where the letters and calls came from. Reason I say this, some of the people who searched for Nyleen knew that she was wearing a yellow t-shirt and shorts per interviews on YouTube. I’m sure that the writer (who may just be someone cruelly pranking the Marshalls and the police) could have possibly learned this info either through word of mouth or if he was one of the searchers. Reason I address the clothing aspect is this: it wasn’t revealed publicly what Nyleen was wearing until a few years ago (it was not on the Charley Project site, wasn’t on the UM broadcast, etc.).
The description of Nyleen’s clothes wasn’t present in the letter shown on the broadcast. My guess is that the withheld info he knew about was what clothes she was wearing. I hope that the cops have saved the envelopes from the letters: they may still have DNA residue on them.
Numerous sites indicate that Nyleen’s step-father Kim is a person of interest in the case. I’m wondering if he wasn’t cooperative or if it just appeared his behavior was suspicious. Anyone have any insight on why he is under the spotlight?
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 6, 2018 13:58:15 GMT -5
All I can find at the moment are other message boards/sites mentioning that the stepfather was "once considered a person of interest, but never named a suspect". The wording suggests police moved on from considering him a POI, but I guess you never truly move on until the case is solved.
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Post by Maddog on Dec 6, 2018 18:49:12 GMT -5
I believe Nyleen was abducted, but not by this letter-writer. Here’s why:
1) The writer claimed he picked up Nyleen on the road between Helena and Boulder. This is inconsistent with how the tracking dogs reacted. The State of Montana brought in a dog that had found dozens of people before. He did pick up on Nyleen’s scent, but only tracked it for a few feet before losing it from where she was last seen. I doubt she was wandering and crying on the road like the writer says because the dog evidence indicates she may have been abducted.
2) One of the letters by the writer was sent directly to the Marshalls. This was the letter that indicated that the author was sexually abusing Nyleen. Why is someone going to reveal this to the family let alone the child search organizations (he did also reveal it to the child find organizations according to The Charley Project - and these are organizations strongly affiliated with law enforcement)? I think this was a sick person who made up these claims just to cruelly taunt the family and police (it has happened before).
3) I also have a problem with this man’s claims that he lives off investments AND homeschools, as well. It sounds way too convenient. If this was a single man who suddenly now has a child out of nowhere, all sorts of people would have noticed, especially since this man seemed to travel a lot for business (his business associates certainly would have noticed).
Sure, he did know things that hadn’t been revealed on a public basis, but if the withheld information was what Nyleen was wearing, it may have been someone who lived in MT at the time of the abduction and then moved to WI (again, the searchers seemed to indicate that they knew what Nyleen was wearing at the time of the search). Thoughts, everyone?
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 6, 2018 19:47:01 GMT -5
My mind is blanking but I remember there was a case on Unsolved Mysteries with some anonymous letter writer basically admitting guilt over killing a teenage girl and it turned out to not be him (I can't believe I'm blanking out, it was the girl with premonitions she would die at a young age and she was murdered at the store she worked at the mall if I recall correctly).
Although in that case the man may have been ill, while this may just be some cruel hoax or the possibility this was the abductor but he had already killed Nyleen and was playing a sick and cruel taunting game.
Living off investments does seem very convenient for an excuse, unless it was some ominous reference to something else (dead wife's money etc...)
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Post by lawabidingcitizen on Dec 7, 2018 11:43:06 GMT -5
I am torn regarding this case. I think there is a chance she wondered off, and succumbed to the elements, wildlife of the park but I also find some credence with the phone calls, letters.
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Post by Maddog on Dec 9, 2018 22:31:58 GMT -5
My mind is blanking but I remember there was a case on Unsolved Mysteries with some anonymous letter writer basically admitting guilt over killing a teenage girl and it turned out to not be him (I can't believe I'm blanking out, it was the girl with premonitions she would die at a young age and she was murdered at the store she worked at the mall if I recall correctly). Although in that case the man may have been ill, while this may just be some cruel hoax or the possibility this was the abductor but he had already killed Nyleen and was playing a sick and cruel taunting game. Living off investments does seem very convenient for an excuse, unless it was some ominous reference to something else (dead wife's money etc...) True. Another problem I have is this: the writer probably knew that he would attract a LOT of unwanted attention if he actually had Nyleen. FBI would have likely received more leads than the sole and unconfirmed Janesville, WI restaurant sighting they received. You are thinking of the Kirkpatrick homicide out of Maryland - you are absolutely correct. Further, there was the Mikki Jo West case where the police found letters throughout St. Joseph, MO where the writer letter claimed he knew who killed Mikki Jo West and was petrified of him. Turns out that the writer letter was actually the killer himself (Marvin Lee Irvin) and not a frightened witness. The fact that the dogs indicated that Nyleen didn’t go very far and to compare that with the letter writer saying he picked her up wandering is an inconsistency that isn’t going to just disappear. I do believe Nyleen was abducted, but by someone other than the letter writer. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 9, 2018 22:36:51 GMT -5
Right, leave it to me to forget about a case I actually made a thread for on the forum lol.
But yeah I absolutely find your theory very plausible.
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Post by Maddog on Dec 11, 2018 2:50:14 GMT -5
Right, leave it to me to forget about a case I actually made a thread for on the forum lol. But yeah I absolutely find your theory very plausible. I was going to ask: what do you think of her step-father being a person of interest? I want to state, I am not accusing him of doing anything untoward, but there is quite a lot floating on the Internet about how he had a dark side of sorts. It is worth noting that he was a member of the ham radio club that was meeting in the forest that day. Not sure why the meeting was being held in a forest, but if he was involved (again, not saying he did, just keeping in mind that he is a POI), the argument could be made that he had the opportunity to plan the disappearance in advance. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 11, 2018 2:54:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much on the internet is "rumored" or truth. And lots of people have dark sides and it doesn't make them killers.
I feel it is best to give him the benefit of the doubt for now, but not to rule him out at the same time.
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Post by Maddog on Dec 11, 2018 3:06:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much on the internet is "rumored" or truth. And lots of people have dark sides and it doesn't make them killers. I feel it is best to give him the benefit of the doubt for now, but not to rule him out at the same time. Very true. Looking at the general investigation after Nyleen vanished, I think the police did just about everything they could (it was far from a shoddy investigation). I remember on Unsolved Mysteries Deputy Campbell with the Sheriff’s Office indicating that they even did a grid search with volunteers to no avail. Granted, the forest there was very dense, but Campbell seemed to me to hint what he thought had happened: “There was absolutely nothing to indicate she was even there.” Is it possible that Nyleen just wandered into the forest and got lost? Yes, but I am not putting a lot of stock into that theory. By the way, I do remember from the UM Broadcast that Nyleen’s uncle realized that he saw two people who closely represented sketches of two abduction suspects. Does anyone know which case those abduction suspect sketches are from? |
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