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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 20, 2015 6:01:01 GMT -5
This is somewhat off-topic but AMW might have had a history of doing that- even in cases we weren't aware of. For instance, having Nancy and Joey Bocchico's killer played as a white guy when he could have possibly been Hispanic. And then to not even mention he might have been Hispanic.
Changing the race of the victim is one thing. Hiers' victim could have been played as black, white, Asian, etc. And I don't think it would have affected much tip-wise. (Except for those rumored KKK connections considering Hiers victim was African-American. Perhaps that might have been the reason?)
However, in the Bocchico case, AMW let political correctness get in the way of accuracy.
The Hunt, with the exception of overstating how much money Yaser Said had (which wasn't much according to many other shows/films/interviews) has done a better job than AMW at accuracy, or at least it seems that way. Perhaps because they aren't as rushed and have more time to gather facts. (Although with the Dan Hiers thing, AMW had to know who the victim was).
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 20, 2015 20:35:27 GMT -5
As with other TV shows and movies nowadays, Youtube videos are being uploaded with a single picture of something John Walsh related and a link to "download" episodes of The Hunt. For those that have come across these, do not click any of these links as JW would not want you to have gotten malware on your computer from searching for episodes of The Hunt.  |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 20, 2015 21:59:59 GMT -5
OK we now have a description for the August 16th episode: Deceived to Death:
"Man is hired by a woman to beat her estranged husband to death; serial molester kidnaps two women with a knife in Oregon."
OK- So the first case now sounds like MARGARET SMITH. We may have been right after all, and for some reason The Hunt accidentally put GEORGE SMITH in their tip link. I really hope they realize that error before the show.
I really hope the second case wasn't supposed to be Paul Winklebleck- since he's kind of dead now. Unless for some odd reason, it turns out the Medical Examiner was wrong back in February, which would be embarrassing considering we declared him dead. But how often is the M.E. that declares a guy dead and even releases the body to a family wrong?
This also highlights a problem with the long between season breaks for The Hunt. How do they handle it when a case is resolved? Do they air it anyway and mention at the end the fugitive is now captured/deceased? Did they film backup cases? Or will they just splice some additional footage and expand the Margaret Smith case to an entire hour?
At least three fugitives we know of were captured before The Hunt could air them (which makes the season delay all the more frustrating since (besides Napier, caught before March) they could have been Hunt direct captures had the season aired in March or April as originally planned). That above description sounds just like Winklebleck so it might have been four cases now. This significantly reduces the number of fugitives for season 2 and potential capture rate for The Hunt if they didn't have back-up cases. And the problem with the delay in between seasons this past year.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 20, 2015 22:09:05 GMT -5
Just wanted to mention even the serial molester escapes before trial part sounds a little like Johnny Napier. I really hope The Hunt doesn't air cases already resolved.
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Post by danwind on Jul 20, 2015 22:36:53 GMT -5
OK we now have a description for the August 16th episode: Deceived to Death: "Man is hired by a woman to beat her estranged husband to death; serial molester kidnaps two women with a knife in Oregon." OK- So the first case now sounds like MARGARET SMITH. We may have been right after all, and for some reason The Hunt accidentally put GEORGE SMITH in their tip link. I really hope they realize that error before the show. I really hope the second case wasn't supposed to be Paul Winklebleck- since he's kind of dead now. Unless for some odd reason, it turns out the Medical Examiner was wrong back in February, which would be embarrassing considering we declared him dead. But how often is the M.E. that declares a guy dead and even releases the body to a family wrong? This also highlights a problem with the long between season breaks for The Hunt. How do they handle it when a case is resolved? Do they air it anyway and mention at the end the fugitive is now captured/deceased? Did they film backup cases? Or will they just splice some additional footage and expand the Margaret Smith case to an entire hour? At least three fugitives we know of were captured before The Hunt could air them (which makes the season delay all the more frustrating since (besides Napier, caught before March) they could have been Hunt direct captures had the season aired in March or April as originally planned). That above description sounds just like Winklebleck so it might have been four cases now. This significantly reduces the number of fugitives for season 2 and potential capture rate for The Hunt if they didn't have back-up cases. And the problem with the delay in between seasons this past year. Wait a minute, I thought Paul Winklebleck was dead, He killed himself avoid getting caught, I thought the case was closed |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 20, 2015 22:43:47 GMT -5
I already explained I was confused like you in my post. First of all, no one knows why he wound up dead. Second of all, he was never officially declared dead by the Sheriff's Office but it seems obvious he is based on the Medical Examiner's Office. Third of all, I already explained beforehand but sometimes The Hunt plans on airing a case before the fugitive is captured or deceased. Fourth of all, the description SOUNDS like Paul Winklebleck but could be another case. Paul Winklebleck is likely still dead. However, the tv guide might have listed the case in advance before The Hunt accepted he was dead. There is also a scenario where the M.E. was wrong. But considering they released the remains to Winklebleck's family, that would be pretty embarrassing. |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 21, 2015 6:27:42 GMT -5
Just wanted to mention even the serial molester escapes before trial part sounds a little like Johnny Napier. I really hope The Hunt doesn't air cases already resolved. Keep in mind that the airings of Alexander Hill and Matthew Dion were never aired so I kinda doubt that resolved cases are getting aired on The Hunt. Besides, how will John Walsh on Facebook explain to the readers that we need to find fugitives that were already located, lol. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 21, 2015 6:40:04 GMT -5
I doubt it too but they could always do what AMW did and add the update at the end "Just as we were getting ready to air this story..." bla bla bla.
That case REALLY sounds like Paul Winklebleck though which is why I'm concerned.
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Post by danwind on Jul 21, 2015 16:59:44 GMT -5
I already explained I was confused like you in my post. First of all, no one knows why he wound up dead. Second of all, he was never officially declared dead by the Sheriff's Office but it seems obvious he is based on the Medical Examiner's Office. Third of all, I already explained beforehand but sometimes The Hunt plans on airing a case before the fugitive is captured or deceased. Fourth of all, the description SOUNDS like Paul Winklebleck but could be another case. Paul Winklebleck is likely still dead. However, the tv guide might have listed the case in advance before The Hunt accepted he was dead. There is also a scenario where the M.E. was wrong. But considering they released the remains to Winklebleck's family, that would be pretty embarrassing. I see, Sorry about that |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 22, 2015 8:47:11 GMT -5
It seems like just like last season only the first episode was released to the general public in the days after the show. However, if you go to the cnn.com/thehunt website, you'll see a link on the page to "watch the latest episode on CNN Go." Unfortunately, you still need a cable or satellite provider in order to sign in, but it is good news to those who missed episode i2. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 23, 2015 10:22:01 GMT -5
Congrats to "The Hunt" for getting an Emmy nomination for Outstanding Editing in a Documentary Series!
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jul 25, 2015 2:20:06 GMT -5
Just so we're clear, the 7-26-015 broadcast will focus on Paul Erven Jackson, right?
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 25, 2015 8:14:00 GMT -5
Just so we're clear, the 7-26-015 broadcast will focus on Paul Erven Jackson, right? You are correct! |
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jul 25, 2015 23:03:03 GMT -5
And I have two more questions about the early 1/3 of August:
1) Does anyone know who will be profiled on Ags. 2?
2) I think Prakashanand "Shree Swamiji XX" Saraswati will be profiled on Ags. 9, but is there a chance of a 2nd case that night?
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 25, 2015 23:17:10 GMT -5
First case on August 2nd is Megan Everett. Second case is described as a "serial molester in Texas flees during trial." But none of us know what case that is. So it might be a new one. August 9th the entire episode will be on Prakashanand Saraswati aka Swami Ji with our new forum friend srose appearing in it. |
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