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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 9, 2019 23:56:30 GMT -5
Also just a hunch and perhaps wishful thinking, but perhaps just coincidence or perhaps for a reason, often a fugitive already on the list is captured just a day or so after a new addition. (They probably decided the timing was right for a new addition knowing they'd soon have another capture). So I'm cautiously optimistically hoping this can be the case again with the addition of Jimenez. (Of course I'd love for Jimenez to be caught as well). Usually these additions happen on the heels of the FBI closing in on another fugitive, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the FBI is close to catching Alexis Flores, Yaser Said, Santiago Mederos, Bhadreshkumar Patel, or Alejandro Castillo, which is why Jimenez landed on the list, however there is a possibility that Jimenez may be caught quickly like Jesus Munguia. I would hope the fbi adds someone like Bruce Sawhill, Elby Hars, Jean Leonard Faure, or even Hazel Head to the 10 MW List.
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Post by 912thamwuser on May 10, 2019 21:31:47 GMT -5
Given how the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list is better suited for cases where publicity becomes the top swing factor in capturing a fugitive, I have a question: Could the publicity of the list swing the manhunt for any fugitives with the same murder toll as Armando "Scarface" Garcia, Tony Ray Amati, and Harry Joseph "Taco" Bowman (all AMW Direct Result captures) were suspected of?
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Post by ninja108 on May 11, 2019 0:42:01 GMT -5
Given how the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list is better suited for cases where publicity becomes the top swing factor in capturing a fugitive, I have a question: Could the publicity of the list swing the manhunt for any fugitives with the same murder toll as Armando "Scarface" Garcia, Tony Ray Amati, and Harry Joseph "Taco" Bowman (all AMW Direct Result captures) were suspected of? One would think so given that top tenners get more publicity and resources devoted to them.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 11, 2019 1:19:21 GMT -5
I realize this is a hypothetical question and you feel fugitives wanted for multiple murders should be given high priority but ot does seem in recent years there haven't been as many known-triple murder or more fugitive cases like in the past. There are probably serial killers we don't know about or even fugitive cases we don't know about, but I think the list (and USMS list ina sense) pretty much reflects the trends of the moment. It's not like the 90's where there seemed to to be a triple homicide fugitive every five seconds.
But when there is such a suspect the FBI has been known to add them, as publicity isn't the *only* reason and there have been automatically have to add cases to the list.
It seems the trend lately is- if you don't count mass shootings as usually the suspect is caught or killed shortly after in those cases- the fugitive trend seems to be more single or double homicides lately- only an occasional Shane Miller or Mike Bullinger (who I'm assuming hasn't been added to any list because the investigators handling his case think he's dead) here or there.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 11, 2019 1:28:38 GMT -5
Also just wanted to clarify there have been triple homicide/family killing cases from time to time, but those usually end within the week if not sooner.
The Shane Miller or Mike Bullinger-esque fugitive cases that last more than a month have been rare lately.
There's no need to add them to the list as breaking news cases unless at least a month passes in my opinion based on them *normally* being resolved quickly lately.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 11, 2019 1:34:40 GMT -5
Brad Bishop and Marlon Jones were the last fugitives added to the list wanted for 3 or more murders and they both weren’t on the site previously.
It pretty much makes sense for the FBI to add guys like Arnoldo Jimenez as many of the triple murder/family murder, or Mass shooter cases end quickly. Eric Frein was a unique case as he was added 6 days after the shootings he did.
Though the FBI has added double murderers like Terry Strickland, Santiago Mederos, Yaser Said and most recently Antwan Mims.
There’s a reason I made my point that cases on the Top Ten List now I see are worst of the worst based on the circumstances of the situation in why the individual did what they did, how they did it and, their potential criminal history if any.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 11, 2019 22:56:12 GMT -5
I really hope the FBI will replace Lamont Stephenson with Bruce Sawhill, it’s time they finally get that guy, I’m sick of seeing his face on the Crimes Against Children section and I want to see a captured label on his mugshot. I think if the fbi has gotten somewhere with a lot of fugitives like Stanley Simms, Jorge Martinez, Jr., and Wayne Silsbee, if it hasn’t worked with Bruce Sawhill, let’s just add him to the Top 10 and make his world smaller.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 12, 2019 0:23:08 GMT -5
We'll see but the FBI has not added a child sex crime fugitive to the top ten list since 2013 (Walter Lee Williams), and neither of the two long-term successors to Robert Mueller (James Comey and Christopher Wray) have had one added under their watch either. Greg Carlson has been the only general (non-murder) sex-crime fugitive added since 2013. But I agree that I really would like to see Bruce Sawhill on the list.
(Also a side note that directors simply approve or disapprove of a selection, but it's a media publicity panel that generally picks who makes the list).
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 13, 2019 22:58:55 GMT -5
We'll see but the FBI has not added a child sex crime fugitive to the top ten list since 2013 (Walter Lee Williams), and neither of the two long-term successors to Robert Mueller (James Comey and Christopher Wray) have had one added under their watch either. Greg Carlson has been the only general (non-murder) sex-crime fugitive added since 2013. But I agree that I really would like to see Bruce Sawhill on the list. (Also a side note that directors simply approve or disapprove of a selection, but it's a media publicity panel that generally picks who makes the list). I would say Elby Hars or even Jerold Dunning would be good additions, however I think they should go with Sawhill since he’s believed to be in the United States or Canada and is on the run with his wife which could lead to his eventual capture. It’s just a shock that guys like Wayne Silsbee, Charley (I forgot his last name), Barrett Busschau, Gerard Zalewski, Leon Shaw and his wife Victoria Cravitz have all been captured in recent years and yet Sawhill hasn’t yet gone down.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 14, 2019 23:29:14 GMT -5
Since it’s police week this week, I decided to share this press release on the FBI site. It pretty much goes into detail about the Charlie Hill Fugitive case and towards the end, they profile other fugitives wanted for murder or assault on law enforcement such as David Durham, Donna Borup, Joanne Chesimard and 4 fallen officers who’s killer is unidentified. What’s odd is that there is no mention of Timothy Coombs despite being sought for assault on a law enforcement officer, unless they have something in store for him such as being added to the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted, however his reward is currently at $100,000, but who knows. I’d be alright with the FBI adding anyone especially Timothy Coombs. www.fbi.gov/news/stories/seeking-justice-violence-against-law-enforcement-051319
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Post by Scumhunter on May 14, 2019 23:32:51 GMT -5
They probably just forgot to mention him. He's technically at large but like David Durham I think a lot of people think he's dead.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 25, 2019 22:44:05 GMT -5
I’ve noticed the FBI has added the last 3 Top Ten fugitives around anniversaries
• Santiago Mederos has a federal warrant issued in September 30, 2016 and wasn’t added until a year later in September 25, 2017.
• Greg Carlson posted bond and fled on September 26, 2017 and wasn’t added to the FBI Top Ten until September 27, 2018.
• Lamont Stephenson & Arnoldo Jimenez were added a few days prior to their crimes anniversaries.
If the FBI was to make an addition, it would be someone who had a warrant issued or committed a crime in June.
The fugitives I’ve found so far that this could be a plausible scenario for are;
Bruce Emerson Sawhill (Crimes Against Children)- Federal Warrant issued in June 2006.
Joe Matthew Constance (Murder)- Allegedly murdered his wife in June 2011.
Octaviano Juarez-Corro (Murder)- he murdered 2 people in broad daylight on Memorial Day weekend and a federal warrant was issued in early June 2006 immediately after the crime.
Gerardo Beltran (Crimes Against Children)- Federal Warrant issued in June 2005.
Jerold “Jerry” Dunning (Crimes Against Children)- Fled and Federal issued in June 1999 after he failed to show up for his trial.
The FBI had an interesting pattern before the addition of Brad Bishop in April 2014 as they added a Child Crimes Fugitive, Eric Toth, then much later added a Hispanic murder fugitive, Fidel Urbina, then they added Edwin Ernesto Rivera Gracias to replace Joe Saenz.
Then you had # 499 and #500 which were Jose Guevara and Walter Williams, so I’m also wondering now with Bishop and Ravelo gone, if the FBI may go back to that pattern from 2012-2014.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 26, 2019 0:30:10 GMT -5
Interesting. We'll see, we might be waiting a while if they don't add anyone by the end of June since they don't normally update the top ten in the summer.
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Post by Maddog on May 26, 2019 21:09:55 GMT -5
I'd like to add Octavio Curiel Martinez as a possible candidate for my list. His crime is somewhat similar to Patrick Policarpio's, which landed him on the Ten Most Wanted List.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 26, 2019 22:39:03 GMT -5
Oh I agree big time. He might be my personal most wanted of the year so far.
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