Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 19, 2016 17:35:30 GMT -5
Well I decided to make disscussion thread on the FBI's Top Ten list to talk more in depth on our potential candidates for the list, potential removed and, potential captures. Now I do agree we have been spoiled by Mogilevichs removal and not having a new fugitive in a year also is what got people a bit more excited. Even with the awaiting of the 506th fugitive gets list enthusiasts excited since we haven't had this process happen since Eric Frein was captured and replaced by Yaser Said.
Post by Scumhunter on Mar 19, 2016 17:45:23 GMT -5
I think a HUGE part of the problem is AMW's not around anymore. They caught 17 guys off the top 10 list. As great as The Hunt is, it's only on in the summer. Without the resource of tv, it's much harder.
Also, as Pakman stated at one point, they've also simply added guys who are known to be difficult to catch.
There's plenty of viable candidates for the list, I feel what I've designated the "Myloh Mason" spot should be reserved for newer cases, but the problem is they need to capture some of the long-timers to open up space when it comes to adding guys.
Obviously anyone in the violent crimes and murders section would be a candidate, especially those whose crimes were committed 2005 or afterwards.
I also feel like the next addition might be a child crimes fugitive since they haven't added one since Eric Toth. (I can actually see them adding Bruce Sawhill despite his case being over a decade old, they obviously really want to catch him).
Or of course an alleged sex trafficker like LePrinceton Burks or Alfosno Diaz-Juarez.
I would be intrigued to see an alleged sex trafficker added to the list, as I see them as major facilitators to the problem of sex abuse. While they are certainly troublemakers, I am honestly somewhat disappointed when I see fugitives wanted for one or two sex crimes on the FBI's most wanted list, as they don't typically match the expected "worst of the worst" caliber in my mind.
I was thinking the other day that even in cases where AMW didn't directly lead to "top tenners"' arrests, it may have generated tips that narrowed the field. I really wish someone would revive it or create a similar show.
Post by Scumhunter on Mar 19, 2016 18:04:44 GMT -5
I should add "Crime Watch Daily" has done segments on Brad Bishop and Jason Brown but they're more of a hybrid news magazine on general crime stories/unsolved true crime show. They're arguably the closest thing to AMW at the moment, but even they aren't exactly the same show. Also, while the show does do decently in syndicated ratings, it doesn't seem to have the same impact as AMW so far and has yet to solve a case. (Not meant to be a criticism, I like the show for what it is and watch it as often as I can and I'm sure they'll solve a case eventually).
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I've seen Crime Watch Daily too, and while the one episode did show a serious unsolved murder case, they then began showing "funny crime videos" and I changed the channel. I am a bit surprised to hear they have yet to solve a case, however.
Has there ever been an alleged sex trafficker on the FBI's list? I cannot think of any.
Post by Scumhunter on Mar 19, 2016 19:03:29 GMT -5
I don't think there's ever been a sex trafficker on the list, unless you count Warren Jeffs the polygamist leader who had teen girls marry adults. (That's stretching the definition by my own admission though).
Yeah I think Crime Watch Daily does the funny crime videos just to break the show up, relieve some tension and not make it entirely formulaic, but perhaps they need to be more devoted to just the serious crime to get more stories out there. AMW was a court of last resort but had to turn down victims cases because they could only fit so many crimes on the show. That's a good reason rather than "we can't show your missing daughter's photo for 30 seconds because we want to show a video of a dumb criminal robber accidentally locking himself inside a hardware store instead."
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 24, 2016 9:17:47 GMT -5
Well the FBI hasn't changed the fugitives around so it's likely that they will add a top tenner today who knows. Now u guys have great candidates for the list. Leprinceton Burks and Brenda Delgado are my biggest candidates for the list I can see her being added since she's more recent and high profile. Leprinceton is the fugitive to be more likely on the 10 list. The undoing of AMW probably is playing a role in the Top ten list captures and awareness. But also keep in mind the Ten most wanted list is well more publicized than the other FBI fugitives.
Post by Scumhunter on Mar 24, 2016 10:36:57 GMT -5
Oh that's interesting. Like I said before, the FBI almost took a year to replace Bin Laden with Eric Toth so I'm just going to patiently wait knowing theoretically they could wait until November to add a new name. However, they've been more frequent in recent years with the additions. Do I think it's going to take until the end of the year? No, but in theory and based on the past it can.
Anyway, while still continuing to discuss potential candidates, as far as wondering when they'll add someone, I'm just going to be sit back and relax and whenever they add a new guy or girl I'll be nicely pleasantly surprised. Even more pleasantly surprised if it happens today but whenever they do it's cool.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 24, 2016 14:52:51 GMT -5
We'll this time we are anticipating a new top tenner big time is the process hasn't been done in over a year. Also I don't think it'll be an entire year in all honesty because March is usually a month when they add fugitive like Juan Elias Garcia in 2014 and Edwin Rivera Gracias in 2013. April is the next possibility since they added Toth back in 2012 and Bishop in 2014. I guess it sort of has to do with noticing patterns. Also with the FBI adding Leprinceton Burks, Brenda Delgado and other new faces to the featured fugitives... They must have taken more time to do the selection process or maybe they redid it since those fugitives were now in the mix.
Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 24, 2016 14:57:58 GMT -5
Yes in theory it may be a year if Director Comey has abandoned the list. Here's my catch, Comey is a great director thus far because he has managed to replace fugitives rather quickly and I give him credit, but now I think he's abandoned the list in a way.
Post by Scumhunter on Mar 24, 2016 15:05:55 GMT -5
Give him time. I really like the direction the list is going so far. They may be waiting for another capture to clear up even more room. Not to mention, they've been busy with other types of crimes they're trying to get publicity for as well (the Iranian hackers, the disappearance of Robert Levinson in Iran, etc...). It would have been a lot for them to do press alerts on both the Iranian hackers and an FBI top tenner in the same day.
Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 24, 2016 15:16:47 GMT -5
Your right the FBI has had a very tight month and let's hope April brings the 506th fugitive. Like the top tenners were rotated around today and Mason being all the way on the bottom right wasn't rotated and this was the same case with mogilevich in the final year of him being on the list, they constantly left him on the bottom right. Those rotations itself say a lot. The FBI could at least add a special addition fugitive to bring in more captures, the list hasn't seen any special additions since 1993 when Ramzi Yousef was added so we'll see
Post by Scumhunter on Mar 27, 2016 16:26:34 GMT -5
I think that's a little too hard to predict because there has to be certain requirements for the FBI to take on a case, proof a fugitive has crossed state lines, whether the crime was committed on federal property etc. It's not the Marshals where pretty much every fugitive wanted by the police that's been on AMW are mainly handled by them so you can pretty much guess anyone for the Marshals lists. I think I personally would have to examine the case to determine whether there is a justification for FBI jurisdiction- obviously I think Guillermo Ballesteros qualifies but it would be too hard for me to figure out the others and I'm too lazy lol.
Speaking on non-specific terms though, obviously anyone involved in the death of a child is an automatic candidate and the FBI will usually find some excuse to justify jurisdictions over a case of that nature/
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