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Post by Maddog on Apr 15, 2019 7:07:13 GMT -5
Lately we’ve been talking about Edgardo “Eddie” Luis Perez being a strong candidate for the list, but personally I have a heavy hunch that Kevin Lamont Carter may be added to the list. Again I’d be okay with anyone making the list since the wait has been too long now, but for some reason when I think Top Ten contenders lately, Carter is the first that comes to mind. I’m glad you really brought him to my attention. Because of the cold, methodical way he planned that killing, and the fact that he was seeking out another man in Mexico tells me there’s a good chance he will kill again.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 23, 2019 15:15:53 GMT -5
I know some of us are getting impatient with the list and two open slots but please keep in mind the FBI has taken long hiatuses between additions before. It took them nearly a year after Osama Bin Laden was killed and Whitey Bulger was captured to add Eric Toth (and then Fidel Urbina a little later). To be honest, while there's a few who deserve to be added, there's no guy on the overall site that stands out to me as someone they absolutely HAVE TO add so I'm fine with them waiting so there's a bigger pool of candidates and/or potential breaking news-ish fugitives to pick from. Also, please keep in mind- the FBI top ten list is a publicity tool and not necessarily the worst of the worst. It's the worst of who they think will be caught off public tips. It's usually a process where all field offices submit candidates. An FBI media publicity panel then decides from those candidates. Threats to the public are definitely taken into account but the odds of public tips bringing the person in is also a factor. It is why Eric Toth was added when there were child crime fugitives arguably even worse than him- the FBI felt his distinct physical features would get him caught and they were right. I know sometimes I repeat myself with things I said already earlier in the thread so my apologies if anyone has read this shpiel before but sometimes there's new posters so I need to explain again.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 23, 2019 20:42:04 GMT -5
I know some of us are getting impatient with the list and two open slots but please keep in mind the FBI has taken long hiatuses between additions before. It took them nearly a year after Osama Bin Laden was killed and Whitey Bulger was captured to add Eric Toth (and then Fidel Urbina a little later). To be honest, while there's a few who deserve to be added, there's no guy on the overall site that stands out to me as someone they absolutely HAVE TO add so I'm fine with them waiting so there's a bigger pool of candidates and/or potential breaking news-ish fugitives to pick from. Also, please keep in mind- the FBI top ten list is a publicity tool and not necessarily the worst of the worst. It's the worst of who they think will be caught off public tips. It's usually a process where all field offices submit candidates. An FBI media publicity panel then decides from those candidates. Threats to the public are definitely taken into account but the odds of public tips bringing the person in is also a factor. It is why Eric Toth was added when there were child crime fugitives arguably even worse than him- the FBI felt his distinct physical features would get him caught and they were right. I know sometimes I repeat myself with things I said already earlier in the thread so my apologies if anyone has read this shpiel before but sometimes there's new posters so I need to explain again. Usually by this time the FBI has added someone, but given there’s 2 slots there’s a possibility the FBI may plan to have a big event and add 2 fugitives like they did in 2013 (Guevara & Williams) & 2016 (Macedo & Policarpio). I actually prefer the fbi have their focus in adding someone based on publicity and threat to the public rather than worst of the worst. The FBI may have someone on the run for a terrible crime and they’re likely hiding out in a country where they can’t be brought back. At the moment the FBI has a ton of fugitives on the murders section from the FBI Los Angeles, and they likely won’t do a back to back addition from the same field office, I think the FBI will likely choose someone from a field office that has only 1 solid candidate from their field office, like the FBI Omaha, New York or Mobile. My reasoning for thinking nobody stands out as much is that most of the new additions have been from FBI LA and because a lot of the good cases are from field offices that currently have a long time Fugitive on the list (FBI Philadelphia), however I think the fugitive wanted by the FBI New York (I want to avoid mentioning names of specific fugitives at this point) is a pretty decent candidate and since the FBI NYhaven’t added anyone to the list since 2014. EDIT: there’s also the possibility of the FBI adding someone who isn’t currently on their site, example; an individual we’ve talked about that is wanted from both Ohio and Michigan for murder, whose thread is on our site.
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Post by ninja108 on Apr 23, 2019 22:09:52 GMT -5
I know some of us are getting impatient with the list and two open slots but please keep in mind the FBI has taken long hiatuses between additions before. It took them nearly a year after Osama Bin Laden was killed and Whitey Bulger was captured to add Eric Toth (and then Fidel Urbina a little later). To be honest, while there's a few who deserve to be added, there's no guy on the overall site that stands out to me as someone they absolutely HAVE TO add so I'm fine with them waiting so there's a bigger pool of candidates and/or potential breaking news-ish fugitives to pick from. Also, please keep in mind- the FBI top ten list is a publicity tool and not necessarily the worst of the worst. It's the worst of who they think will be caught off public tips. It's usually a process where all field offices submit candidates. An FBI media publicity panel then decides from those candidates. Threats to the public are definitely taken into account but the odds of public tips bringing the person in is also a factor. It is why Eric Toth was added when there were child crime fugitives arguably even worse than him- the FBI felt his distinct physical features would get him caught and they were right. I know sometimes I repeat myself with things I said already earlier in the thread so my apologies if anyone has read this shpiel before but sometimes there's new posters so I need to explain again. I agree. I get Osama Bin Laden on the list but other then him,the Top Ten List should be for guys and gals that will be caught,not ones we have no chance of getting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 14:38:38 GMT -5
I was just curious and just wanted to ask this question.....
When they were added to the list before they were found (Lamont Stephenson & Greg Alyn Carlson) what addition numbers were they to the infamous Top Ten?
I ask this cause I remember reading something that someone said that "Maybe the FBI is going to have a BIG event of some sorts when they add the next upcoming 2 add on(s) to the infamous list", I forgot what numbers Stephenson and Carlson were when they were added and because somebody said that the FBI might be planning on a BIG NEWS conference EVENT when they announce/add the next 2 dirt bags, I don't remember specifically but I don't think that the next 2 added to be announced are going to be FBI TOP 10 List add on(s) numbers 599 and 600.
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Post by zekcat on Apr 25, 2019 15:22:51 GMT -5
Greg Alyn Carlson was 520 and Lamont Stephenson was 521
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 28, 2019 23:37:07 GMT -5
This is pretty much my list short list of FBI Top Ten contenders.
FBI website fugitives:
• Eugene Palmer
• Ryan Rivera-Meister
• Kevin Lamont Carter
• Gerardo Beltran
• Jean Leonard Faure
The FBI is in a good spot to add a non site fugitive too and the only 2 names I could think of are the following.
Non-FBI site fugitives
• John Kelly Gentry
• Joseph Sinnott Edwards
I’ll just leave it at that
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 28, 2019 23:46:05 GMT -5
I know it takes the fun out of debating but any fugitive in the violent crimes and murders section are automatically contenders by default.
The "fun" if you want to call it that is predicting any curveballs from other sections or not on the site even.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 28, 2019 23:53:05 GMT -5
I know it takes the fun out of debating but any fugitive in the violent crimes and murders section are automatically contenders by default. The "fun" if you want to call it that is predicting any curveballs from other sections or not on the site even. The possible curveballs of having Crimes Against Children Fugitive Gerardo Beltran and Additional Violent Crimes Fugitive Jean Leonard Faure are interesting to think about. But the non site fugitives like John Gentry and Joe Edwards are very interesting too. Since the Marshals recently added Lester Eubanks, I think it’s fitting that the FBI adds someone like Gentry or Edwards as a curveball or surprise. Those 2 are both Wanted for double murder, so there’s the worst of the worst and they are cold cases that could use some new publicity and additional law enforcement resources.
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Post by Maddog on May 3, 2019 20:52:11 GMT -5
My updated prediction list:
Dennis St. John Rodriguez Juan Laureano-Arvizu Kevin Lamont Carter Joe Constance Edgardo Luis Perez Tanasia Coleman Rex Reichert Elby Hars Bruce Sawhill
As far as non-site fugitives, I am going with John Kelly Gentry - the USMS has received word in recent years that he is still alive and possibly in the Los Angeles area.
My other wild card is Huy Quoc Cao. Wanted for a brutal double murder and is alleged to have fled to Vietnam.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 6, 2019 22:02:28 GMT -5
I was looking at the FBI’s website and I wanted to make a summary about certain fugitives that have been considered as Top Ten Contenders by many of us.
A name that has been thrown around quite a lot is David Durham, and he’s probably the one fugitive that gets us to debate whether he’s dead or alive. As many of us know, Durham went on the run in January 2011 and a federal warrant was issued days later. On the Top Ten List the FBI could’ve removed someone from the list or he could’ve been added to the list once Usama Bin Laden was killed in May of that year, however this was never the case and Durham has never made the list. After overlooking many of these things, I personally see that chances are very slim for Durham to make the FBI Top 10 in 2019 unless it happens under special circumstances such as if Officer Dodds (The Victim) requests his addition.
Then you have a guy like Eugene Palmer, who as of this posting on May 6, 2019 is still at large and 80 years old, he had a federal warrant issued months after he went on the run in 2013, he was aired on The Hunt in 2016, he was added to the FBI site in November 2018, and had his reward increased in early 2019. Usually these type of cases often make decent additions to the FBI Top 10 despite Palmer being 80 as there is no limits as to how old an individual should be when added.
Palmer and Durham are very distinct cases and ironically the older fugitive is believed to be alive rather than Durham who is believed to be deceased. Comparing Durham to someone like Kevin Lamont Carter, despite having been on the run for nearly 25 years, Carter I believe is catchable and would be a decent candidate for the Top Ten List.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 7, 2019 0:09:12 GMT -5
As far as David Durham, they did recently do a wanted segment on him on Live PD, so you never know I guess.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 8, 2019 23:43:02 GMT -5
With Arnoldo Jimenez replacing Greg Alyn Carlson, that makes 9/10 fugitives at large, which means only Lamont Stephenson’s spot is open. I hope they decide to add someone like Elby Hars, Bruce Sawhill or Jean Leonard Faure to replace him.
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Post by Maddog on May 9, 2019 19:36:55 GMT -5
Just a hunch, but I am going to say that the next fugitive will be added next week. Reason I say this is LaMont Stephenson was added one week after Greg Alyn Carlson was, and that was a dual vacancy, too.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 9, 2019 20:45:15 GMT -5
Also just a hunch and perhaps wishful thinking, but perhaps just coincidence or perhaps for a reason, often a fugitive already on the list is captured just a day or so after a new addition. (They probably decided the timing was right for a new addition knowing they'd soon have another capture). So I'm cautiously optimistically hoping this can be the case again with the addition of Jimenez. (Of course I'd love for Jimenez to be caught as well).
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