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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 12, 2017 22:43:00 GMT -5
I don't normally get political except for the off-topic section. And this is the off-topic section. I have major issues with and am not registered with the Republican or Democratic party, but relieved and thrilled that Roy Moore, who pretty much had overwhelming evidence that he dated and/or attempted to date teenage girls back to when he was at least in his early 30's, did not win a Senate seat. This was about human decency, not party affiliation.
Although I should say I'm normally a glass half-full guy, I'm unfortunately a little glass half-empty that Moore was even a candidate, and that even in Alabama the race was apparently as close as it was. It saddens me people had to be "torn" over who to vote for.
Glad Doug Jones won, and Roy Moore can go back to being a pedophile and a bigot as a private citizen.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Dec 12, 2017 23:13:44 GMT -5
I don't normally get political except for the off-topic section. And this is the off-topic section. I have major issues with and am not registered with the Republican or Democratic party, but relieved and thrilled that Roy Moore, who pretty much had overwhelming evidence that he dated and/or attempted to date teenage girls back to when he was at least in his early 30's, did not win a Senate seat. This was about human decency, not party affiliation. Although I should say I'm normally a glass half-full guy, I'm unfortunately a little glass half-empty that Moore was even a candidate, and that even in Alabama the race was apparently as close as it was. It saddens me people had to be "torn" over who to vote for. Glad Doug Jones won, and Roy Moore can go back to being a pedophile and a bigot as a private citizen. I’m also glad Roy “Boy Toy” Moore lost, that man seriously has no decency, he’s already seen as a freakin bigot on the national stage and he looks worse being a hypocrite while claiming to be religious and about stronger families, give me a break. |
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Post by 912thamwuser on Dec 12, 2017 23:47:33 GMT -5
Jones was also a distinguished retired attorney who played a vital role in locking away several KKK members who killed four children with a bomb back in '963. Jones wanted to get justice for children, whereas Moore wanted to hurt them while Moore tried to revive all-male suffrage and give wife-beaters a license to treat their wives as chattel property. In a more rational, less politically tribalistic society, where reason prevailed, people still spat on criminals who had lewd relations with children, fundamentalists didn't spin pure evil to look like heroic deeds, and where the KKK and Confederacy were still in American history's dustbin, Jones' victory over Moore would've been a no-brainer! But as it is, Jones barely won! What does this say about our world and our domestic society in particular?
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 13, 2017 7:41:30 GMT -5
Hit the nail on the head 912th. One thing I want to add by saying "even in Alabama" was not meant as a diss but because it's a heavily red state that hasn't voted for a Democrat for Senate in 25 years. The South can get stereotyped but from my limited time down there there's a lot of kind decent people who aren't bigots or homophobes or anything of the sort. I sound like Trump now but there's a lot of wonderful, magnificent people in the state of Alabama lol. However, the state is very red politically speaking, and there are people unfortunately who are going to vote along party lines no matter what. So that's what I meant.
And speaking of stereotypes, it seems Doug Jones two main groups that really helped him were African-Americans and young people. So while people would like to stereotype your generation toptenhunter (I'm also a technical millenial although just barely), it's the young people that seem to be on the right side of the history while voting lately. Unfortunately, it's the old white men and white women of all people who nearly gave Moore a sickening victory.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Dec 13, 2017 20:30:23 GMT -5
Unfortunately, social media still has followers of Allen West, Dinesh D'Souza, Ben Carson, Michelle Malkin, and other right-wing media extremists, proclaiming Roy Moore's innocence and blaming the left wing and center table for smearing Moore just to score a fraudulent political victory. Are the right-wing extremists proclaiming their own innocence about supporting Moore all in the name of the Republican party? After Moore, a violent straight supremacist, was suspected of giving a speech to a fundamentalist gathering with intent to bring back all-male suffrage, all-male political office, and all-male privilege to speak during church services? After at least 30 likely victims came forward with their accounts of Moore's abuses, the same theocratic senate candidate and disgraced state court judge whom a mall confirmed they kicked out because he prowled on children? Did they really think Moore was a hero?
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Dec 13, 2017 20:57:54 GMT -5
Unfortunately, social media still has followers of Allen West, Dinesh D'Souza, Ben Carson, Michelle Malkin, and other right-wing media extremists, proclaiming Roy Moore's innocence and blaming the left wing and center table for smearing Moore just to score a fraudulent political victory. Are the right-wing extremists proclaiming their own innocence about supporting Moore all in the name of the Republican party? After Moore, a violent straight supremacist, was suspected of giving a speech to a fundamentalist gathering with intent to bring back all-male suffrage, all-male political office, and all-male privilege to speak during church services? After at least 30 likely victims came forward with their accounts of Moore's abuses, the same theocratic senate candidate and disgraced state court judge whom a mall confirmed they kicked out because he prowled on children? Did they really think Moore was a hero? They are just partisan hacks wanting to smear the fact that people actually came out and voted their conscience and because their guy lost. It seems that there are double standards when dealing with both parties. The Republicans to some extent unrepentantly backed Roy Moore despite his allegations, whereas the Democrats turned their back on Al Franken, when they found out he had his share of allegations and forced him to resign. It may seem I’m being biased here, but that’s just how I see it based on how the media shows it. |
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Post by 912thamwuser on Dec 13, 2017 21:48:29 GMT -5
Unfortunately, social media still has followers of Allen West, Dinesh D'Souza, Ben Carson, Michelle Malkin, and other right-wing media extremists, proclaiming Roy Moore's innocence and blaming the left wing and center table for smearing Moore just to score a fraudulent political victory. Are the right-wing extremists proclaiming their own innocence about supporting Moore all in the name of the Republican party? After Moore, a violent straight supremacist, was suspected of giving a speech to a fundamentalist gathering with intent to bring back all-male suffrage, all-male political office, and all-male privilege to speak during church services? After at least 30 likely victims came forward with their accounts of Moore's abuses, the same theocratic senate candidate and disgraced state court judge whom a mall confirmed they kicked out because he prowled on children? Did they really think Moore was a hero? They are just partisan hacks wanting to smear the fact that people actually came out and voted their conscience and because their guy lost. It seems that there are double standards when dealing with both parties. The Republicans to some extent unrepentantly backed Roy Moore despite his allegations, whereas the Democrats turned their back on Al Franken, when they found out he had his share of allegations and forced him to resign. It may seem I’m being biased here, but that’s just how I see it based on how the media shows it. Furthermore, Roy Moore not only demonized everyone outside his own brand of Christofascism (most likely the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement), but even described LGBTs as abhorrent and detestable, criminals against nature, and lawbreakers against God. He wishes he could punish LGBTs with mass imprisonment (which sounds similar to the Internment Camps built in America in circa '942) or perhaps execution (such cold-blooded systematic genocide would make him no better than the perpetrators behind Camp Auschwitz's gas chambers and ovens). In extreme pseudo-Christian circles like his, when they think of abhorrence, disgust, and atrocity, do they ever stop to consider that maybe their descriptions and vaguely general condemnations fit AMW fugitives like Dennis Melvyn Howe, Alfredo Reyes-Reyes, Michael Blane Brashar, Fernando Garcia (Capture #17), Alexis Flores, Robert Brent Bowman, Kyle Kenneth Bell, and Martin Allen Johnson, infinitely better? |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Dec 13, 2017 23:51:30 GMT -5
They are just partisan hacks wanting to smear the fact that people actually came out and voted their conscience and because their guy lost. It seems that there are double standards when dealing with both parties. The Republicans to some extent unrepentantly backed Roy Moore despite his allegations, whereas the Democrats turned their back on Al Franken, when they found out he had his share of allegations and forced him to resign. It may seem I’m being biased here, but that’s just how I see it based on how the media shows it. Furthermore, Roy Moore not only demonized everyone outside his own brand of Christofascism (most likely the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement), but even described LGBTs as abhorrent and detestable, criminals against nature, and lawbreakers against God. He wishes he could punish LGBTs with mass imprisonment (which sounds similar to the Internment Camps built in America in circa '942) or perhaps execution (such cold-blooded systematic genocide would make him no better than the perpetrators behind Camp Auschwitz's gas chambers and ovens). In extreme pseudo-Christian circles like his, when they think of abhorrence, disgust, and atrocity, do they ever stop to consider that maybe their descriptions and vaguely general condemnations fit AMW fugitives like Dennis Melvyn Howe, Alfredo Reyes-Reyes, Michael Blane Brashar, Fernando Garcia (Capture #17), Alexis Flores, Robert Brent Bowman, Kyle Kenneth Bell, and Martin Allen Johnson, infinitely better? Even in those instances where they are making threats and disgusting punishments towards the LGBTQ community does put them on par with AMW fugitives. It’s sad that these pastors and right wing media hosts, who preach hate and murder always get away with saying hateful things that contaminate peoples minds, but what they should understand is that in the end regardless of what they may think, the LGBTQ community has every right to be happy as other individuals it’s the law of the land and that the United States is a Secular nation, not a Theocracy. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 14, 2017 0:46:05 GMT -5
Just wanted to point out in the interest of fairness that many Republicans also spoke out against Moore. Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona donated a check to Doug Jones with the heading "Country over Party". Richard Shelby, who will be Doug Jones' fellow U.S. Senator from Alabama, didn't even vote for Moore.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Dec 14, 2017 6:50:18 GMT -5
Just wanted to point out in the interest of fairness that many Republicans also spoke out against Moore. Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona donated a check to Doug Jones with the heading "Country over Party". Richard Shelby, who will be Doug Jones' fellow U.S. Senator from Alabama, didn't even vote for Moore. To Scumhunter: Flake and Shelby luckily broke from party lines. I just wish Mitch McConnell and other big names in the party would've stepped up to the plate like that; My complaint is not against every last GOP congressperson, but rather that Flake and Shelby have been the exception instead of the norm. To TopTenHunter: Maybe I worded that a little ambiguously. What I meant to imply is that those genocidal sectarian extremists want to punish innocent, upstanding LGBTs with sentences that would serve kidnapping sexual child killers right. It's about the description that these extremists fabricate about abhorrent crimes against nature or deviant atrocities against God; My question is why those radical extremists haven't instead used it to describe sexual child killers in the vein of those infamous AMW cases that I mentioned all these decades. |
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Post by danwind on Dec 24, 2017 12:20:40 GMT -5
Sounds like the voters don't want a criminal in office, I glad they did the right thing.
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