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Post by davep on Aug 27, 2020 3:10:41 GMT -5
So, let me understand this about Said that I found out today 08/27/20.....
* Yaser Abdel Said, 63, of Lewisville, northwest of Dallas Texas,
kills his 2 girls.
* He's on the FBI's ten most wanted list for 12 years.
* He's finally caught in...wait for it...Irving Texas. How many
miles away is that from Dallas?
* The FBI says his brother and nephew were helping in hiding him.
* Is this another example of FBI-Amatuer-Hour.
Hey, is it that easy to hide from the FBI, in the same state where
Said committed his murders, probably just miles away...lol. Then
anybody can hide from the FBI. This is just flat-out incompetence.
Is anybody on the FBI working on this stuff. I'll bet Said was working
at a Walmart down the street from the FBI office.....sheesh!
I change my mind about Jason Brown. He's probably alive and well, playing
golf in Florida with a former FBI agent who doesn't have a freaking clue.
I can't make this stuff up.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 27, 2020 3:24:36 GMT -5
It was the town of Justin Texas but close enough and in relative plain sight.
It's hard to say how we was able to hide in plain sight if he never left Texas. I do admit to frustration that it took 12 years if he never left Texas but I'm still going to focus on the positive that he was caught.
JDB on the other hand who knows. If Yaser was hiding in plain sight, Brown may be as well (although it can be debated where plain sight is- still in Arizona near the crime scene still in Utah or still where he grew up in California would all count as relative plain sight to me) but we unfortunately will never know unless he's caught.
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davep
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Post by davep on Aug 27, 2020 3:45:43 GMT -5
Hi SHunter,
Brown could be standing against the kiosk where he killed Keith, go
in and watch a movie, eat at a restaurant across the street like the
old days, drive a new silver BMW...and the dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks
FBI would be going.....doh!
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 27, 2020 3:52:52 GMT -5
Yeah I understand your point. I bet some people really wanting Said to get captured felt hopeless and then he was caught, whether he should have been caught sooner or not, so hopefully history repeats itself with Brown. Even if when he's caught it's an obvious location, I will at least be happy he was caught.
Would be interesting if Brown is ever caught to see if it's anywhere near what we thought or where the admittedly sometimes fake or exaggerated news rumors come from or some completely random location we or the media never even discussed.
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Post by vigilanti on Aug 27, 2020 10:51:20 GMT -5
As for Said, I’m not very surprised that he was hiding near the crime scene. Donald Eugene Webb managed to hide in a secret chamber in a family member’s house for over 15 years and unfortunately was not captured and evidently died there.
However, Brown is one of those fugitives who I think could be about anywhere in the world, from still somewhere in Arizona to Kazakhstan or Madagascar, or Ohio for that matter.
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davep
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Post by davep on Aug 29, 2020 23:48:18 GMT -5
Hi SHunter,
Well, I see a recent picture of the captured Said on the internet
and I almost fall over. He changed very little. I mean, put a picture
of him today next to his mug shot, and nothing changed. So what do we
have here...
1.) Said for 13 years is hiding just a measley 30 miles from the
murders he committed says the media.
2.) His family, basically, is hiding him the whole time.
3.) Said looks the same 13 years later.
LOL, you can't sugar coat any of this FBI incompetence. If I were the director
for the FBI heads would have been rolling yesterday. It's quite obvious, and
this recent fiasco proves it, the FBI spends next-to-nothing in resources
in looking for its Top 10. It depends on citizens to turn these people in.
I'll bet one of Said's relatives turned him him. Couldn't resist the money
being offered for him.
To be fair to the FBI...the agency is probably overworked with terrorism,
chinese hacking, neo-nazis and on and on. I'm glad Said is captured as well
SHunter.
On another note, I'll betcha Brown looks nothing like he did 16 years ago.
If he's here, he's in Florida most of the time(#1 in golf courses). I'm sure
he's playing golf. He has to keep his sanity playing golf. If he's not here
he's in Brazil. I think he would fit right in.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 30, 2020 0:04:02 GMT -5
Well you're entitled to your opinion but in fairness to the FBI they're being tight-lipped as to whether he was in Texas the entire time or went anywhere else during his 12 years so it's possible he went to Egypt or Canada or something during that time and that's what complicated things. It also took six years to add him to the top ten list despite the terrible crime he committed, I kept hemming and hawing and going "WHY THE HELL WON'T YOU ADD YASER SAID TO THE TOP TEN?" from 2008-2014, and then they finally added him after documentary filmmakers told them they saw him in Texas ironically, so also in fairness it was basically six years as a top-tenner of serious focus as opposed to 12 years. One thing I'll give though, I think they would have caught him sooner if they added him to the list right away, I'll admit I think they made a mistake not adding Brad Bishop to the top ten list in the 70s or 80s when the crimes he committed would have been relatively recent, as opposed to in 2014 30 years after the fact (and then they removed him without capture anyway), but I'd rather just celebrate that they finally caught Said and focus on the positive.
Supposedly golf is the key to capturing Brown, that he loves it and is obsessed with it and it's the one hobby he'll never stop doing even while on the run.
Do you think he still parties and lives it up at bars if still alive (I mean that's wherever he can go to bars in the country or world right now)? He is a man-child but you'd think since he's in his 50s now he's not necessarily into that kind of lifestyle anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 7:18:48 GMT -5
Well you're entitled to your opinion but in fairness to the FBI they're being tight-lipped as to whether he was in Texas the entire time or went anywhere else during his 12 years so it's possible he went to Egypt or Canada or something during that time and that's what complicated things. It also took six years to add him to the top ten list despite the terrible crime he committed, I kept hemming and hawing and going "WHY THE HELL WON'T YOU ADD YASER SAID TO THE TOP TEN?" from 2008-2014, and then they finally added him after documentary filmmakers told them they saw him in Texas ironically, so also in fairness it was basically six years as a top-tenner of serious focus as opposed to 12 years. One thing I'll give though, I think they would have caught him sooner if they added him to the list right away, I'll admit I think they made a mistake not adding Brad Bishop to the top ten list in the 70s or 80s when the crimes he committed would have been relatively recent, as opposed to in 2014 30 years after the fact (and then they removed him without capture anyway), but I'd rather just celebrate that they finally caught Said and focus on the positive. Supposedly golf is the key to capturing Brown, that he loves it and is obsessed with it and it's the one hobby he'll never stop doing even while on the run. Do you think he still parties and lives it up at bars if still alive (I mean that's wherever he can go to bars in the country or world right now)? He is a man-child but you'd think since he's in his 50s now he's not necessarily into that kind of lifestyle anymore. Today is the 16th anniversary of the murder. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 30, 2021 0:44:36 GMT -5
Toptenhunter reminded me in the thread about Arnoldo Jimenez but one thing I've sort of evolved on in this case is the theory that Brown has been hard to catch because he's an "average-looking white guy."
There are fugitives chosen for major lists and/or AMW specifically because they look unique, but for the most part fugitives look just like everyone else. That's part of the scary thing about them is how they can be behind you in line at Shop Rite and you wouldn't bat an eye.
I think Brown has unfortunately just been good at hiding and has had a lot of luck from the near misses when he was almost caught immediately.
I admit to being guilty of saying it myself but I no longer am as strong on that average looking white guy theory as to why Brown hasn't been caught yet.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jan 30, 2021 12:00:07 GMT -5
Toptenhunter reminded me in the thread about Arnoldo Jimenez but one thing I've sort of evolved on in this case is the theory that Brown has been hard to catch because he's an "average-looking white guy." There are fugitives chosen for major lists and/or AMW specifically because they look unique, but for the most part fugitives look just like everything else. That's part of the scary thing about them is how they can be behind you in line at Shop Rite and you wouldn't bat an eye. I think Brown has unfortunately just been good at hiding and has had a lot of luck from the near misses when he was almost caught immediately. I admit to being guilty of saying it myself but I no longer am as strong on that average looking white guy theory as to why Brown hasn't been caught yet. In all honestly not saying the alleged sighting in Mansfield, Ohio is true or false, but JDB has an endless world in the western U.S. to hide out in, back East yes he still can if he goes to the Midwest or Upstate New York where the population is in decline and Brown wants to be somewhere he won’t be noticed or can’t be found. (Scumhunter is probably the one person who can correct me on that fact with regards to Upstate NY). If Brown is possibly out west I’m leaning more towards him being in Montana of all places as he’s an avid snowboarder as well and there are plenty of places to Snowboard in out west especially in Montana. Also the population in Montana is not as dense as say somewhere in New York City or Washington, D.C., which means Brown can live comfortably without being noticed. With regards to Brown’s common looks, it may have been the case within the first few years of him on the 10 Most Wanted, but then again, he’s in his 50s now and 16 years on the run has to take its toll. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 30, 2021 18:51:59 GMT -5
I mean I know some have argued he doesn't look like him here- but a guy who *arguably* bears a resemblance to Sean Penn isn't an average looking white guy either (whether you agree he looks like him or not) lol. I think sometimes it's also a matter of where you're hiding as opposed to common looks. White guys are often caught in foreign countries where the majority are either not white or another type of ethnicity such as Asian, Indian etc... is the predominant race because they don't blend in.
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Post by Maddog on Jan 30, 2021 23:33:42 GMT -5
Here's the thing: if he didn't leave the United States, it would be VERY difficult for him to do so now with advanced passport technology and photo comparisons for passports.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 3, 2021 10:59:18 GMT -5
Personally I’ve gotten to a point with this case, that I wouldn’t be surprised and I feel it could happen, that after so much speculation as to his whereabouts that he ends up getting caught somewhere in Remote Utah, or Provo, Utah, a state he is known to have a connection to. But the western United States is great ground for going on the run, I mean Jackson, Wyoming is a big time affluent resort town that I think Brown would likely travel to if he’s living his center of attention lifestyle, but overall I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s captured in Utah of all places after 17 years of speculation.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 3, 2021 22:58:38 GMT -5
I'm not trying to not give you credit but in all honesty to me those would be the least surprising locations for his capture imo lol. (Besides California).
As we saw with Yaser Said, sometimes fugitives take a long time to get caught specifically because they were hiding in plain sight and Utah would be in plain sight.
Davep will correctly point out the sighting in Salt Lake was never officially confirmed, but it still wouldn't be surprising if that sighting was fake yet Brown turned out to be hiding in Utah anyway. Sometimes sticking to what you know helps more than going outside your comfort zone.
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Post by catchemall on Feb 22, 2021 18:30:16 GMT -5
Hey I'm new to this thread. Does anyone have any information on Jason Browns father? Are there photos of him out there? Also wondering if there is current info on his brother. Haven't been able to find much.
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