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Post by King Of Clubs on Nov 29, 2015 17:37:39 GMT -5
11th anniversary today. Sadly still no sign of Jason.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 1, 2016 21:21:02 GMT -5
Well I can tell you that emotions work in a very unusual way, Brown will eventually turn himself in, it's only a matter of time before he feels remorse and guilt for what he did. Now I was watching a discovery documentary on the 10 most wanted fugitives even though it's in German it said something about Brown suffering through Depression and feeling very down right before the murders I don't know how accurate that is but this documentary was from 2009... Also the FBI website probably glitched back in 2014 now that I remembered (been wanting to add this for a while but I get side tracked lol), it labeling Brown as Captured, which is the same thing that happened to Fisher in 2013 when they labeled him deceased but who knows what may have caused that.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 1, 2016 21:50:06 GMT -5
Was it the website itself you saw that on? Pakman made a good point when he said the Fisher deceased photo could have been doctored. The person posted it to a Facebook page- I never saw that picture on the FBI's website itself.
Anyway, although still unlikely, I do agree Jason Brown is probably the most likely person on the list to surrender one day for a few reasons.
1- The pressure from the media. He's been on AMW, Dateline NBC, and there are constant tips on him. That pressure has to get to anybody after a while. Especially when he's setting records for FBI tips.
2- What started his downward spiral into becoming an alleged killer was running out of money to where he could no longer live his lavish lifestyle. While he could have went back to cons, the older he gets, the less he might be inclined to live that lifestyle. Brown decided to allegedly murder a guy at the end of his rope. I can see an older Brown, paranoid from hiding, no longer to able to live the lifestyle he wants and turning himself in.
3- He *might* feel remorse. Brown grew up in the Mormon religion, was a misisonary, and was an alleged con artist for most of his life. While he's always been a crook (albeit a petty one), it's one thing to be a con, it's another to become a murderer. In his younger years, he seemed to be wanting to do the right thing before things went dark. He was well-liked by his Arizona neighbors. His sister (I think his sister) described him as sensitive and that him being on the top 10 list would destroy him. I don't think he gives a crap about anyone he conned out of money, but perhaps it's possible he feels bad for the family of Keith Palomares when he hears about how great a person he was. Perhaps somewhere there's that religious well-liked missionary behind the evil deeds.
However, at the end of the day, Brown allegedly walked up to a guy he never met and shot him in the head in the cold blood, leaving him with no chance to defend himself. A guy who can do that in the first place doesn't seem like someone who will feel bad about it later on.
Not to mention, Brown is like many on the list, allegedly cocky. And cocky people usually don't give up.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 1, 2016 22:56:03 GMT -5
Was it the website itself you saw that on? Pakman made a good point when he said the Fisher deceased photo could have been doctored. The person posted it to a Facebook page- I never saw that picture on the FBI's website itself. Anyway, although still unlikely, I do agree Jason Brown is probably the most likely person on the list to surrender one day for a few reasons. 1- The pressure from the media. He's been on AMW, Dateline NBC, and there are constant tips on him. That pressure has to get to anybody after a while. Especially when he's setting records for FBI tips. 2- What started his downward spiral into becoming an alleged killer was running out of money to where he could no longer live his lavish lifestyle. While he could have went back to cons, the older he gets, the less he might be inclined to live that lifestyle. Brown decided to allegedly murder a guy at the end of his rope. I can see an older Brown, paranoid from hiding, no longer to able to live the lifestyle he wants and turning himself in. 3- He *might* feel remorse. Brown grew up in the Mormon religion, was a misisonary, and was an alleged con artist for most of his life. While he's always been a crook (albeit a petty one), it's one thing to be a con, it's another to become a murderer. In his younger years, he seemed to be wanting to do the right thing before things went dark. He was well-liked by his Arizona neighbors. His sister (I think his sister) described him as sensitive and that him being on the top 10 list would destroy him. I don't think he gives a crap about anyone he conned out of money, but perhaps it's possible he feels bad for the family of Keith Palomares when he hears about how great a person he was. Perhaps somewhere there's that religious well-liked missionary behind the evil deeds. However, at the end of the day, Brown allegedly walked up to a guy he never met and shot him in the head in the cold blood, leaving him with no chance to defend himself. A guy who can do that in the first place doesn't seem like someone who will feel bad about it later on. Not to mention, Brown is like many on the list, allegedly cocky. And cocky people usually don't give up. Yes indeed it was on the website itself I check the list and see he had a captured label and I was very skeptical about it so I refreshed the page and POOF it was gone. and I got to hand it to you Scumhunter those were some very strong words Jason Brown everytime he watches media outlets running stories on what he did should be enough to get him to think now his Mormon faith and of course human nature will get him to feel remorse also his bounty is double that of say Fisher or Bishop or Said so that might be what pressures him too, but say once Gerena is removed he will feel the pressure big time to surrender but there is yes the fact that he is cocky and won't give up, who knows he probably already started a family since he's been on the run and has decided to straighten up and that's why he has lasted as long as he has but who knows |
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 19, 2016 10:08:28 GMT -5
I figured I'd bring this up again, there's a Facebook page that wonders about the possibility that Jason Derek Brown could be the infamous Geezer Bandit, a seemingly elderly man that has robbed multiple banks across California, but many people think the Bandit is a younger person wearing a mask. I don't think we've gone into why the page thinks that this may be the case, so I looked at the page and I'll list them out: -A white BMW was seen leaving the scene of one of the Geezer bandit bank robberies. I believe Jason's original BMW is now in police custody but it was his vehicle of choice in the past. -None of the banks hit were in Orange County (where Brown grew up)- but all the freeways near where he hit go back quickly to the O.C. -The robber once wore an FBI hat. (Some would argue Jason's not that dumb- but he is allegedly cocky. He could have figured they'd never think it's him anyway since there's a mask so he did it to amuse himself.) -The total amount Jason took from Palomares was $56,000. According to this Facebook page, the Geezer bandit once left a note saying "Give me $50,000 or I will murder you.) -The Geezer Bandit has never hit in July- the month of Brown's birthday -The Facebook page claims at least six of the cities where the Geezer bandit robbed a bank has an LDS Mormon church. -A few of the banks the Geezer bandit robbed are short drives away from golf courses. It is said the one thing Jason will not stop doing even when on the run is playing golf. Do I personally think Jason Brown is the Geezer Bandit? No. I still feel there is a strong possibility Jason eventually fled overseas and perhaps a lot of the points made are just coincidences. But I also can't laugh at this person's theory and we've seen seemingly unrelated cases on AMW turn out to be connected before. So I don't think it's him but it also wouldn't surprise me if it turns out this page was right and I was wrong. They give valid reasons to at least consider the possibility. (I feel a good amateur sleuth never completely dismisses a theory even if they disagree with it, it's always important to keep an open mind.) I'm surprised the page only has 15 likes as it is an interesting read at the very least. www.facebook.com/GeezerBanditisJasonDerekBrown/ |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 19, 2016 18:38:16 GMT -5
Well I've been waiting to get home to get on and respond. That actually seems interesting because in the description it said White BMW and Brown owned a Silver BMW M3 convertible to be exact. But I'll tell you for this Geezer Bandit to avoid Orange County which is good to be open to everyone's theories because that's what this forum is about. Personally I think don't think he's the Geezer Bandit, after 11 years on the run? No he probably must have broken that habit of not having a job and is probably working some ranch jobs or blue collar work somewhere in the North west, or western rockies or probably started a family somewhere and has been keeping his priorities straight also working blue collar jobs, but at this point 11 years later anything is possible he maybe overseas for all we know.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 19, 2016 18:42:28 GMT -5
The thing is Jason never had a real job in his life. He's had jobs, but most of those jobs were scams like the fake modeling agency. The idea that he's never worked a day in his life is technically misleading, but it seems he's never worked *honestly* in his entire life. Could that have changed? Absolutely. But robbing banks is a natural solution for a guy who's never seemed to want real jobs but is now on the run. The question is, would a guy on the FBI's top 10 list take that big a risk?
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 19, 2016 18:50:07 GMT -5
Well i will say if he's smart enough to not get caught then yes, the way the Geezer Bandits time line goes he has been pretty successful since 2009 or so. But I'll tell you the FBI was about to get him in December 2004 if it wasn't for his sister lying so another part of me says Brown wouldn't take that kind of risk he's cocky but he isn't going to risk doing robberies and probably being captured as a result. He is one of those long time fugitives that makes your jaw drop in shock and wonder is how is he doing it??? He seems very easy to catch but he's still at large and that has to do with him looking average, his California surfer looks have kept him at large and I'm curious to know how he looks today and what he may be doing.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 21, 2016 22:45:57 GMT -5
Hi josedom, Welcome to the forum. Are you the guy who runs that Search for Jason Derek Brown page? I've seen this picture on that page before so I'm assuming you run the page and the "my friend" is tongue-in-cheek  I definitely agree it is a look-a-like, but I can't say with 100 percent certainty that guy is Brown. Definitely worth sending in as a tip just to be on the safe side. Has it been sent in? And Do you know where that picture is from? P.S. You've compiled a lot of good info on Brown. Brown is a fugitive I have a lot more knowledge of than others on the top 10 list because of the e-book I read on him, and I can say you have very accurate details on the page (if you're the one running it). www.facebook.com/searchforjdb/ |
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Post by josedom on Feb 21, 2016 23:48:47 GMT -5
Hi josedom, Welcome to the forum. Are you the guy who runs that Search for Jason Derek Brown page? I've seen this picture on that page before so I'm assuming you run the page and the "my friend" is tongue-in-cheek I definitely agree it is a look-a-like, but I can't say with 100 percent certainty that guy is Brown. Definitely worth sending in as a tip just to be on the safe side. Has it been sent in? And Do you know where that picture is from? P.S. You've compiled a lot of good info on Brown. Brown is a fugitive I have a lot more knowledge of than others on the top 10 list because of the e-book I read on him, and I can say you have very accurate details on the page (if you're the one running it). www.facebook.com/searchforjdb/Yes I was making a joke. And its confirmed that the guy isnt Jason, by the way that pic is really similar to him but you can see that guy in others pic are really different. I have a lot of info about the case ! Check my page |
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Post by josedom on Feb 21, 2016 23:50:43 GMT -5
Doing my own researchs I found his brother, mother and sisters facebook pages. Anyway I decided to dont publish it for obvious reasons.
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Post by josedom on Feb 21, 2016 23:51:23 GMT -5
If you can apport something to the search you can send me a message here or to the page Search for Jason Derek Brown
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 21, 2016 23:51:30 GMT -5
I didn't think that guy was Brown, but hey, you never know, if he gets plastic surgery on the run, it could change his appearance a little. Anyway, good to know, I have checked your page in the past, but will continue to check it and read up on it. |
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Post by josedom on Feb 21, 2016 23:52:51 GMT -5
Yes casualty is that the guy is called Tim Brown and his brother is David too. But other pics prove that hes not.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 21, 2016 23:53:40 GMT -5
As the admin of this forum, I probably wouldn't be able to allow family Facebook pages on here anyway for privacy reasons but it is cool that you found their pages and you've done some good sleuthing. |
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I definitely agree it is a look-a-like, but I can't say with 100 percent certainty that guy is Brown. Definitely worth sending in as a tip just to be on the safe side. Has it been sent in? And Do you know where that picture is from?