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Post by pakman on Jul 26, 2013 16:18:57 GMT -5
In 1981, career criminal William Wallace Stabler Jr. shot at two police officers in Corte Madera, Calif., who were investigating a domestic violence call. To make his escape, Stabler forced a man at gunpoint to drive out of San Francisco, then stole the man's car to make the rest of his getaway. In the 70s, Stabler committed several robberies as the "Halloween Mask Bandit," and was captured after leading police on a high-speed chase and shooting at them with a rifle through the back window. For years after the chase, Stabler kept up a "pen pal" relationship with one of the police officers who was shot during the chase. The relationship lasted until Stabler was paroled. The last photo taken of Stabler (not the one pictured) is from 1988 when he was arrested in New York under the alias "William Hudson." Stabler was last seen in 1991/1992 in New York, where he was shopping at a Banana Republic and had a Doberman named Daisy. No solid leads on Stabler have been reported in 21 years. AMW first profiled Stabler in 1990, and was last profiled in April 2003. If he's still alive, he's 80 years old now. Stabler apparently was a heroin and meth addict, and was reportedly ill around the time of his last profile (if his amw.com archived page is to be believed). Thoughts? I know we talk very often about how old-time fugitives are likely dead, but in this case it's very likely Stabler is no longer living. He apparently was still alive in the early 90s (he would have been 59 years old at the time of his last sighting) but as the years have gone by it's doubtful that he's still living. On the other hand, if he is still alive, it sounds like he retired from the criminal life. His AMW profile said he no longer dressed like a cowboy and looked more "collegiate," so it sounds like he was trying to do a better job of blending in and not attracting attention to himself. And for the record, yes, Czar's avatar did partially inspire me to post this Admin Note #1: Based on wanted location, our advice for anyone with information on this case would be to call Bay Area Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS or submit a web tip to them by clicking on the following link: www.tipsubmit.com/webtips.aspx?AgencyID=584&DSID=584 Admin Note #2: If you have any news-related updates on this case, please contact us here: amwfans.com/thread/1662/website-contact-form
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 26, 2013 16:27:28 GMT -5
When discussing cold case fugitives, it seems the two most popular theories are A) dead and B) Overseas, and espeically if a Hispanic fugitive, Mexico or another country in Latin America. But this really is one case where it is more likely than not the fugitive is deceased considering his past history of drug abuse.
And yes, while not condoning his crimes, it does seem he was attempting to live a "straight" life as a fugitive.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Jul 27, 2013 10:52:37 GMT -5
Something that interests me about this case is how Stabler was what you call a dying type of criminal (considering how old he was and that he wen't on the run in 1981). He reminds me more of a depression-era gangster than a typical AMW fugitive in that he mainly committed armed robberies and gun crimes against law enforcement. He even gave the motorist he carjacked 20 dollars so he could call a cab. For anyone who's seen his airing, they brought up letters he wrote while in prison; one of them mentions he said that the old-time professional thieves are just about worn out and the thrill seeking adventurous punks are on the prowl. Another mentioned to the officer he shot It was nothing personal, it was all cops and robbers as far as I was concerned.
Another mentioned that he wanted to find some happiness near the end of his life. I'm going to agree with both of you that he probably managed to pull that off. I feel for reasons that have been brought up that he's dead by now, probably from the after-effects of his narcotics addictions. His old AMW.com profile page mentions he had ties to the Mexican Mafia prison gang. Something tells that when after he died, he already asked the prison gang to do him a final favour and conceal or destroy his remains so that Law Enforcement would never manage to locate him.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 26, 2018 2:10:37 GMT -5
I found Stabler still has a warrant in Marin County's online warrants search as of this update (7/26/2018), although oddly they put it as issued in 2013. So I guess an old one expired and they reissued or something. apps.marincounty.org/WarrantSearch/Warrant/Details/CO046892A?lastName=StablerAlso they list some profile statistics we can now odd. Stabler would be 82 years old today if still alive. Name: STABLER,WILLIAM WALLACE Date of Birth: 1/23/1933 Height: 6' 02" Weight: 230 lbs. Gender: Male Race: White Eye Color: Blue Hair Color: Brown
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Post by catchumall on Jan 10, 2019 13:03:57 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 4, 2024 5:16:05 GMT -5
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Post by pakman on Jun 4, 2024 9:15:55 GMT -5
I'm not surprised that Stabler was dead. But I am surprised that he took his own life - I assume he would have died of natural causes. I almost wonder if he'd gotten sick and didn't want to go to a doctor or hospital for fear that his true identity would be discovered. That's pure speculation, but it makes sense to me.
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Post by outlawtaco on Jun 4, 2024 9:34:29 GMT -5
Im from Florida like in the case of Diana Alvarez these come from to areas I have never of Alvarez's remains were found in yeehaw junction and holopaw are in central Florida I have been through the area multiple times but I'm glad both cases were eventually solved and another case this reminds me of is Roger Parham do to the fact they were both fugitives found dead under different circumstances but at least all of these cases had a resolution even i though would have liked Parham and stabler to face justice and but you can't change the past All you can do is hope we can do better in the future law enforcement and criminals are evolving and so is society but at least there is no more not knowing
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 5, 2024 6:26:12 GMT -5
I'm not surprised that Stabler was dead. But I am surprised that he took his own life - I assume he would have died of natural causes. I almost wonder if he'd gotten sick and didn't want to go to a doctor or hospital for fear that his true identity would be discovered. That's pure speculation, but it makes sense to me. You know I just realized now you’re the one that started the thread- sorry if this is off-topic but I’m so used to it being me or HeadMarshal I didn’t even notice lol. Glad one of your posts is solved now
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Post by pakman on Jun 5, 2024 20:52:36 GMT -5
Haha I completely forgot I created it until after I replied to it!
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 6, 2024 4:59:07 GMT -5
Haha I completely forgot I created it until after I replied to it! Glad it wasn’t just me then haha
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Post by Maddog on Jun 7, 2024 0:37:49 GMT -5
I'm not surprised that Stabler was dead. But I am surprised that he took his own life - I assume he would have died of natural causes. I almost wonder if he'd gotten sick and didn't want to go to a doctor or hospital for fear that his true identity would be discovered. That's pure speculation, but it makes sense to me. I suspect you are correct. With his long-term meth and heroin abuse, he was likely in very poor health. Meth addicts usually go through a period of severe depression when they are withdrawing from the drug, and it is certainly possible he had withdrawals which led to his suicide.
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