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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Dec 10, 2016 1:02:56 GMT -5
Since the drug war is something that is usually brought up on this forum, I decided to make a thread discussing it in depth. It can be the war on drugs in the United States, the Mexican drug war and even violence in Central and South America that can be discussed on here.
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 10, 2016 1:15:33 GMT -5
Despite running a crime forum, I have never been the biggest fan of the War on Drugs. I also do not condone the actions of El Chapo and Eduardo Ravello and the like and they need to be punished. But the fact of the matter is as long as Americans buy the drugs, it is an unwinnable war. You really want to "win" the war on drugs, do more education about the effects of drugs, stop giving non-violent offenders (buyers, not dealers) longer prison sentences than child molesters, and at least legalize marijuana, which will prevent them from buying from cartels and is no more dangerous than alcohol while putting stricter guidelines and punishmemts into place in regards to any under the influence related crimes especially vehicle-related.
These are my only my opinions.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Dec 11, 2016 21:24:02 GMT -5
My overall first round of opinions will be directed towards the Mexican Drug war.
There are many Problems in Mexico, it's beautiful, but all we've seen is the dark side of the never ending drug war. The reason why it's gotten so bad, is because aside from drugs being the main source of income, many groups like FARC from Colombia and Hezbollah from Lebanon have allegedly funded the cartels, which gives them the ability to hold territory, build their own weapons and they have some of Mexico's special forces troops who deserted to join up with the cartels. The security forces have made significant gains in recent years like the capture of El Chapo and i hope in the near future Ravelo is caught too. Mexico's structure is somewhat broken in parts where the violence is at its worst but not every place in Mexico is like that.
The cartels are brutes, they use propaganda to keep their public in fear, which makes me very upset.
I just wish that things can get better there and stop all the brutality, its personal to me as a Hispanic American.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 26, 2018 17:41:17 GMT -5
Obviously as I mentioned awhile back, that Mexico is currently in an election year. The Current ruling party the Centrist PRI (Revolutionary Institutional Party), has managed to make the situation worse. The whole military campaign against the drug cartels started in 2006 under former Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who ruled under the Right Wing, PAN (National Action Party). The Drug cartels in Mexico started in the 1980s when a couple of U.S. trained special forces officers realized money could be made off the drug trade.
The reason these cartels are as sophisticated as they are is because they have former special forces, military officers in the cartels and they know strategy and how to fight, which means they can hold territory.
As a Hispanic American, I hope AMLO becomes the next President of Mexico, because several years of a military confrontation with the drug cartels is costing too many lives. I hope there’s a pathway to legalization, regulation, and taxation of all drugs and those cartel heads accused of murder can face justice in the U.S. if AMLO wants to give them amnesty.
My disagreement with AMLO is that part of giving them amnesty because I can no longer stand the cartels murdering innocent woman, children at birthday parties, it genuinely breaks my heart and the only reason the cartels do this, is out of greed.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Mar 26, 2018 19:56:27 GMT -5
Obviously as I mentioned awhile back, that Mexico is currently in an election year. The Current ruling party the Centrist PRI (Revolutionary Institutional Party), has managed to make the situation worse. The whole military campaign against the drug cartels started in 2006 under former Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who ruled under the Right Wing, PAN (National Action Party). The Drug cartels in Mexico started in the 1980s when a couple of U.S. trained special forces officers realized money could be made off the drug trade. The reason these cartels are as sophisticated as they are is because they have former special forces, military officers in the cartels and they know strategy and how to fight, which means they can hold territory. As a Hispanic American, I hope AMLO becomes the next President of Mexico, because several years of a military confrontation with the drug cartels is costing too many lives. I hope there’s a pathway to legalization, regulation, and taxation of all drugs and those cartel heads accused of murder can face justice in the U.S. if AMLO wants to give them amnesty. My disagreement with AMLO is that part of giving them amnesty because I can no longer stand the cartels murdering innocent woman, children at birthday parties, it genuinely breaks my heart and the only reason the cartels do this, is out of greed. At first, extraditing them to America and having the American justice system lock up the cartel lords in Florence ADX seems like a no-brainer. Am I to understand that America and Mexico need to give the lords amnesty as a pre-requisite to that? |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 26, 2018 20:12:06 GMT -5
Obviously as I mentioned awhile back, that Mexico is currently in an election year. The Current ruling party the Centrist PRI (Revolutionary Institutional Party), has managed to make the situation worse. The whole military campaign against the drug cartels started in 2006 under former Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who ruled under the Right Wing, PAN (National Action Party). The Drug cartels in Mexico started in the 1980s when a couple of U.S. trained special forces officers realized money could be made off the drug trade. The reason these cartels are as sophisticated as they are is because they have former special forces, military officers in the cartels and they know strategy and how to fight, which means they can hold territory. As a Hispanic American, I hope AMLO becomes the next President of Mexico, because several years of a military confrontation with the drug cartels is costing too many lives. I hope there’s a pathway to legalization, regulation, and taxation of all drugs and those cartel heads accused of murder can face justice in the U.S. if AMLO wants to give them amnesty. My disagreement with AMLO is that part of giving them amnesty because I can no longer stand the cartels murdering innocent woman, children at birthday parties, it genuinely breaks my heart and the only reason the cartels do this, is out of greed. At first, extraditing them to America and having the American justice system lock up the cartel lords in Florence ADX seems like a no-brainer. Am I to understand that America and Mexico need to give the lords amnesty as a pre-requisite to that? I think what’ll get the cartels is if drug legalization happens first, since they’ll take a financial hit (no pun intended) and it’ll force them to come to the table if Mexico wants to grant them amnesty. I think there needs to be some sort of punishment towards the drug cartel soldiers and leaders, which would implicate some politicians if they collaborated with the cartels. The Mexican justice system is pretty corrupt and weak sadly, and taking them to the U.S. seems to be the most likely option. Taking them to the ICC in The Hague, is my idea, but you also have the scenario that even Mexican politicians including the current President that are currently bought by or collaborated with the cartels may face charges of crimes against humanity. |
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Post by 912thamwuser on Mar 27, 2018 13:06:49 GMT -5
At first, extraditing them to America and having the American justice system lock up the cartel lords in Florence ADX seems like a no-brainer. Am I to understand that America and Mexico need to give the lords amnesty as a pre-requisite to that? I think what’ll get the cartels is if drug legalization happens first, since they’ll take a financial hit (no pun intended) and it’ll force them to come to the table if Mexico wants to grant them amnesty. I think there needs to be some sort of punishment towards the drug cartel soldiers and leaders, which would implicate some politicians if they collaborated with the cartels. The Mexican justice system is pretty corrupt and weak sadly, and taking them to the U.S. seems to be the most likely option. Taking them to the ICC in The Hague, is my idea, but you also have the scenario that even Mexican politicians including the current President that are currently bought by or collaborated with the cartels may face charges of crimes against humanity. And if a lot of Mexican political officials have indeed collaborated with or sold out to the cartels, what does North America have to lose by their getting locked up in a planetary prison? |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 27, 2018 13:17:47 GMT -5
I think what’ll get the cartels is if drug legalization happens first, since they’ll take a financial hit (no pun intended) and it’ll force them to come to the table if Mexico wants to grant them amnesty. I think there needs to be some sort of punishment towards the drug cartel soldiers and leaders, which would implicate some politicians if they collaborated with the cartels. The Mexican justice system is pretty corrupt and weak sadly, and taking them to the U.S. seems to be the most likely option. Taking them to the ICC in The Hague, is my idea, but you also have the scenario that even Mexican politicians including the current President that are currently bought by or collaborated with the cartels may face charges of crimes against humanity. And if a lot of Mexican political officials have indeed collaborated with or sold out to the cartels, what does North America have to lose by their getting locked up in a planetary prison? All of the greedy Mexican officials who haven’t collaborated with the cartels will remain and will either try their hardest to stay in control, or they’ll be sacked by the Mexican people in favor of a populist person or a grassroots movement. Mexico may or may not withdraw from NAFTA, so as far as North America is concerned, that’s the only thing that could happen. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 27, 2018 16:35:24 GMT -5
Funnily enough how we made this thread before the current administration. What is crazy is MITCH MCCONNELL (a.k.a.) wants to co-sponsor a bill to legalize hemp for cultivating/growing. (Rand Paul also supports it, but he's always been a bit of a go against the grain Republican). This is good news though.
Unfortunately we got the worst possible AG in Jeff Sessions who once said he "didn't think the KKK were that bad before I learned they liked marijuana." It's a catch-22 with Sessions, he's recused himself from the Mueller probe so some people are rooting for him to not be the next guy to get fired or resign as he's the only buffer between Trump and Mueller but at the same time his policies on drugs and immigration are terrible and not to mention firing Andy McCabe a day before he was about to retire anyway is one of the most vindictive and spiteful things I've ever seen done (off-topic but still).
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Post by 912thamwuser on Mar 27, 2018 17:09:07 GMT -5
Funnily enough how we made this thread before the current administration. What is crazy is MITCH MCCONNELL (a.k.a.) wants to co-sponsor a bill to legalize hemp for cultivating/growing. (Rand Paul also supports it, but he's always been a bit of a go against the grain Republican). This is good news though. Unfortunately we got the worst possible AG in Jeff Sessions who once said he "didn't think the KKK were that bad before I learned they liked marijuana." It's a catch-22 with Sessions, he's recused himself from the Mueller probe so some people are rooting for him to not be the next guy to get fired or resign as he's the only buffer between Trump and Mueller but at the same time his policies on drugs and immigration are terrible and not to mention firing Andy McCabe a day before he was about to retire anyway is one of the most vindictive and spiteful things I've ever seen done (off-topic but still). When I say something like, "The 7 green spear-shaped leaves are Beauregard-Sessions' boggart", what I mean is that mariJuana (capital J to emphasize that I pronounce the J, which makes it sound like "marriage-you-wanna") is Beauregard-Sessions' deepest fear or phobia. And I base that on what one Remus J Lupin showed us about what Boggarts are. |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 25, 2018 23:05:51 GMT -5
 Here are the current Mexican Drug traffickers left at large.... (despite Carrillo Fuentes having been captured almost 4 years ago he still has yet to be extradited) which includes Ismael Zambada, FBI Top Tenner Rafael Caro Quintero and Fausto Meza Flores. www.state.gov/j/inl/narc/rewards/ |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jun 26, 2018 23:11:55 GMT -5
In just a few days from now on July 1st, Mexicans will head to the polls to elect a new president as the current President, Enrique Pena Nieto cannot stand re-election, ahead of the big day, left wing populist, Andres Manuel Lopez-Obrador, aka AMLO is more than likely to win the election and fraud this time around would be completely impossible for the people of Mexico to accept.
Obviously as I mentioned AMLO is the presidential candidate that wanted to give the main drug kingpins amnesty, which would be completely complicated as U.S. authorities have a score to settle with many of them to face justice for their crimes such as Rafael Caro-Quintero. Also another drug cartel leader that owes their debt to society is Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes aka “El Mencho”, whose cartel shot down a Mexican military helicopter in May 2015 killing 9, then subsequently causing a mess in Jalisco state by blocking off roads with the cars they hijacked and set on fire.
AMLO will not officially become until December, which means we could have a limited window with capturing Caro-Quintero and how the hell will the Mexican military just take it, knowing “El Mencho” will be pardoned after their own we’re killed by the CJNG.
Also on a positive note, Eduardo Ravelo isn’t a cartel leader, so getting him is no problem, but honestly the addition of Caro-Quintero to the Top 10, and this election season in Mexico have grabbed my attention in recent months, due to the fact that it’s going to be a messy situation.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jun 27, 2018 1:43:51 GMT -5
Now that Eduardo "Tablas, Capo, 2x4, Richolm" Ravelo has been caught, I have a comment. When AMW introduced Tablas in April of '010, John Walsh said at the end of the profile that capturing Ravelo wouldn't end the Mexican drug war, but it's a step in the right direction. I hope that's still true 8 years later.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Nov 23, 2018 0:16:32 GMT -5
Everyone knows about the Drug war going on in Mexico, and some have an idea of what is going on in Brazil, but these 2 countries despite being plagued by violence, corruption and dissatisfaction amongst the people, both elected Wild Cards that will be taking power within the next few months and make Latin American politics a lot interesting.
In Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro, a far right nationalist was elected by the people of that country in October of this year, he honestly has the most horrendous agenda and you guys can look for yourselves. In Mexico, the people voted for Left-Winger Andres Manuel Lopez-Obrador back in July, and his agenda seems to be on par with what we in the United States wish we had right now.
The reason I bring up both countries and their newly elected leaders is because it’s an opportunity to see which one will have a better solution to resolve the problem of the Drug war and violence, both leaders are polar opposites. Let’s wish both leaders well since Brazil and Mexico are both the biggest superpowers in the region.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 23, 2018 0:51:59 GMT -5
There's actually talk about Mexico legalizing recreational marijuana (as Canada has) which is a step in the right direction and hopefully will reduce some drug war violence since the drug lords will no longer have a monopoly on the trade. (This and the amount of minorities, specifically African-Americans given lengthy prison sentences for even marijuana possession compared to white counterparts given paltry sentences for much more violent crimes is why I feel it should also be legalized in the United States). Of course the problem is there's plenty of other available drugs and much more dangerous drugs for cartels still.
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