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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 5, 2016 0:03:47 GMT -5
From NBC New York: The 30-year-old woman whose strangled body was found in a Queens marsh after she went for a run was attacked at random and sexually assaulted, NYPD officials said. NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce said that the department believes there is a "severe community threat" after the killing of Karina Vetrano, who left her Howard Beach home to run near Gateway National Park Tuesday afternoon and never came home. The department is offering a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest in the case. Boyce, who previously said the circumstances of the killing were "extraordinarily rare," confirmed that Vetrano had been sexually assaulted in the attack, but that she "put up a ferocious fight right until the end." "She was beaten quite severely which suggests she put up a good fight," he said. Boyce also said that Vetrano sent a text to a friend during the run, but it's not clear what the message was about. Vetrano normally ran with her father at the time she left Tuesday, but he didn't accompany her that day, police have said. When Vetrano didn't return, he called 911 to report her missing and a search was organized. Hours later, Vetrano's body was discovered in a marsh near the Belt Parkway bike path. Boyce said pings from her cellphone led cops to the weedy area near 161st Avenue and 78th Street, where Vetrano was found face down, her hands balled up, clutching the weeds surrounding her. The woman's father, a retired firefighter, was among the first to find her body. The running path is alongside a secluded, overgrown marsh at the edge of Jamaica Bay. It is part of a much longer network of paths ringing the bay that get a lot of use from cyclists and runners. The section where Vetrano's body was found is often bypassed by people using the longer routes. Parks officials say they are looking into increasing patrols in light of Vetrano's death. Currently, a two-person patrol watches over all the federal parkland in Queens and Brooklyn. Officials said they are also cutting the weeds. "You never know what's in those weeds," said one resident. "I would say it's dangerous." The young woman worked as a caterer for RV Rooftop at Vetro, which said in an Instagram post it would be closed Wednesday to hold a candlelight vigil in remembrance. She was a world traveler and aspiring writer, and on her blog, she wrote about her life: "It's chaotic and unpredictable, but I do believe that on some days, it's quite beautiful, in all its poetic little tragedies." No arrests have been made in the case, and authorities are reviewing digital evidence from the park. Anyone with information about Vetrano's death should call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS.www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Karina-Vetrano-Runner-Missing-Dead-Queens-Marsh-New-York-City-Phone-Clothes-Sex-Assault-Strangle-389209622.htmlThoughts? Karina's horrific murder has received national attention so I would like to address two comments I see from Facebook/Internet posters annoying me: 1. A lot of people jumped to conclusions and said the father should be considered the suspect right away. I remember this when a member of my family was murdered. I saw the article had a comments section and I hesitantly read it when I should have known better. Everyone accused my family member's husband of murder simply because he found her body. It turned out later he had nothing to do with it. Yes this website profiles wanted fugitives who let's face it are more often guilty than not but I'm a big believer in innocence until proven guilty as well. The fact that police now say it was a sexual assault should squash any comments otherwise. My heart aches enough for her father who was said to be extremely close with his daughter and the two did everything together. A parent should never have to bury their child let alone one they were so close to. He doesn't need those comments on top of everything else. 2. Once again there's victim blaming with many people saying Karina shouldn't have went out at night. Her father usually jogged with her but his back hurt that night. But instead of telling women not to jog at night, what about telling men to not rape and murder women? There's one person at fault here and that is whoever the s.o.b. is that murdered this beautiful girl and loving daughter. I realize part of our site is also to discuss crime cases and give our theories as well. But I had to get those two thoughts off my chest. I also fear whoever attacked Karina may became a serial predator if not caught soon. Admin Note: If you have any news-related updates on this case, please contact us here: amwfans.com/thread/1662/website-contact-form
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 8, 2016 18:27:50 GMT -5
Moving Karina's case to the Unsolved on TV section since it's now on the syndicated crime show "Crime Watch Daily"'s website. It has also been on other news sites including Nancy Grace. I usually would count Nancy Grace as a news show and not a crime show (usually the criteria is a case has to be on a crime and not news show either aired or on their website) but since this case has now become sort of national it's kind of hard to say it hasn't been on tv. (I've voiced in the past that I'm not the biggest fan of Nancy Grace, but there's more important issues at the moment when it comes to Karina's case and what's most important is catching this piece of trash. Hopefully someone somewhere knows who the monster that murdered Karina is and/or DNA evidence leads to her killer.) crimewatchdaily.com/2016/08/08/mother-of-slain-jogger-tell-daughters-killer-you-will-pay-forever/
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 1, 2016 0:06:31 GMT -5
Police have released a sketch of a person seen near where Karina Vetrano was jogging the night she was killed. He’s believed to be between 35 and 45 years old and about 5-feet-10 inches. He was spotted wearing a red shirt, dark pants and a wool cap. The NYPD Chief of Detectives has stressed that the man is not a suspect or even a person of an interest, bland at the moment is simply considered a witness that they would like to speak to. www.nydailynews.com/new-york/sketch-shows-man-left-spot-queens-jogger-killed-article-1.2772857
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 12, 2016 19:51:17 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 30, 2016 2:30:12 GMT -5
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Post by profiler24 on Dec 30, 2016 19:18:08 GMT -5
Was there any dna found on the crime scene? Was it in even matched to the ones which are in the codis?
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 30, 2016 19:23:11 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 4, 2017 22:20:34 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 5, 2017 15:02:18 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 7, 2017 11:09:35 GMT -5
This arrest has become somewhat controversial despite the arrest, DNA evidence, and Chanel Lewis allegedly confessing as well, apparently because of his age and supposed mental capacity. He's only 20 and looks baby faced and confused. Some have mentioned the controversial Central Park Six case in the 1980's, in which six black teens were convicted of attacking and raping a woman in Central Park only to be proven innocent 20 years later.
All I can say is Lewis is presumed innocent until proven guilty, and he will have his day in court. I also don't think it's fair that people are accusing Karina's father when he's never been accused and is not on trial as I've mentioned before.
I am happy and hopeful an arrest has been made. If Lewis is convicted, then i hope he receives appropriate punishment. If he's innocent, hopefully facts come out. If he is guilty but there's some sort of mental health issues involved in the case, it gets a little more complicated as I am admittedly very sensitive about mental health issues and although some defendants use it as an excuse it's not always the case, but even in that case hopefully it can be worked out in the court system as to what kind of culpability he has and how to deal with him.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 21, 2018 8:23:23 GMT -5
A mistrail has been declared in the trial of Chanel Lewis. The mistrial isn't so surprising as much as the judge in the case declared it after only two days of deliberations- usually they give a few more days before declaring an impasse if the jury can't initially make a decision. nypost.com/2018/11/20/mistrial-declared-in-case-of-slain-queens-jogger-karina-vetrano/My personal feeling is issues probably arose from Lewis's mental state and today's jurors are probably a lot more aware of false confessions than in the past. Also, DNA evidence in trials is usally solid but apparently the defense poked holes in that too, and according to a NY Times articles, suggested the crime scene had been contaminated and Lewis may have touched a surface Vetrano touched at some point. www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/nyregion/karina-vetrano-murder-chanel-lewis.html(My other concern when I debate this tough case is Lewis seems like a pretty small and skinny young man in stature, and while he's still a male and Vetrano a female, Vetrano seemed to be much taller than him and in good physical shape and was said to have been a runner since high school, and imo looking at the their statures Vetrano looks like she could have at the very least temporarily overpowered him enough to run away, of course you never know what happens once adrenaline comes into account). This is not to say I think Lewis is innocent (I will let the retrial decide that), but that I'm not technically surprised this ended in a mistrial- the shock is the TIMING of when the Judge declared the mistrial. Usually when I see mistrials it's been at least 3 days, and often five. It does seem there will be a re-trial, and hopefully that jury makes the correct verdict.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 1, 2019 22:33:17 GMT -5
Lewis has been found guilty in his retrial. There was still controversy and drama as Lewis' lawyers claim investigators neglected an anonymous letter about two "jacked up white guys from Howard Beach" possibly being involved and that detectives who took DNA material from Lewis thought he was too "dimwitted and puny" to have committed the crime. The letter is believed to have been written by a police officer. As a result, Lewis's lawyers are asking for a trial. Vetrano's family meanwhile cheered in the courtroom when the verdict was read. My opinion is for now, Lewis is technically proven guilty in a court of law. I hope he really is and justice was served. However, should any evidence arise to the contrary or should a judge in the future decide any evidence to the contrary present or future is important and may have affected the outcome of the verdict had it been known, then may he be granted a retrial. For now this marks the end to a very heartbreaking, dramatic, and controversial case and trial. www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-queens-judge-rejects-11th-hour-motion-in-howard-beach-jogger-trial-20190401-kigmlte6wvcapewsv6qrh3po74-story.html
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 2, 2019 7:22:46 GMT -5
Also people on the internet are still implying the father had something to do with this. Even Lewis' defense attorney seemed to passive-aggressively hint at this scenario.
The suspicion centers on the fact the father always went jogging with Karina and she was murdered on the one and only night they didn't jog together. In my opinion, that is actually not coincidental and makes perfect sense that the perp would take advantage of a woman by herself. I also don't recall any witnesses seeing Karina and her father jogging that night.
I know the last thing that should be done is to blame or smear the victim but I'm not trying to say Karina's father is this innocent great guy (in terms of personality). Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. (And also complicating matters is growing up in NYC I know Howard Beach sort of has a reputation as being racist, which adds to the controversy in this case. In no way implying anyone in Karina's family is racist, but even if they were, it doesn't change the fact that no one related to Karina has been charged in her death).
But in my opinion, if, and that's if Lewis was wrongfully convicted I think it was still a stranger attack. Just my opinion.
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Post by ninja108 on Apr 2, 2019 10:34:41 GMT -5
Lewis has been found guilty in his retrial. There was still controversy and drama as Lewis' lawyers claim investigators neglected an anonymous letter about two "jacked up white guys from Howard Beach" possibly being involved and that detectives who took DNA material from Lewis thought he was too "dimwitted and puny" to have committed the crime. The letter is believed to have been written by a police officer. As a result, Lewis's lawyers are asking for a trial. Vetrano's family meanwhile cheered in the courtroom when the verdict was read. My opinion is for now, Lewis is technically proven guilty in a court of law. I hope he really is and justice was served. However, should any evidence arise to the contrary or should a judge in the future decide any evidence to the contrary present or future is important and may have affected the outcome of the verdict had it been known, then may he be granted a retrial. For now this marks the end to a very heartbreaking, dramatic, and controversial case and trial. www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-queens-judge-rejects-11th-hour-motion-in-howard-beach-jogger-trial-20190401-kigmlte6wvcapewsv6qrh3po74-story.html We have to respect the jury's verdict in this case but I won't lie. This is one of the cases where I really wonder if they got the right person.
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Post by danwind on Apr 7, 2019 15:46:50 GMT -5
I glad justice is served, At Last!
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