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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 1, 2019 16:11:31 GMT -5
It’s been 43 years since Bradford Bishop murdered his entire family and disappeared.
This is also the first anniversary since 2014 that Bishop isn’t an FBI Top Ten Fugitive, as we all know he was removed from the list last year in June.
Unfortunately my opinion has shifted and I think he’s likely deceased. Donald Webb was removed and eventually they found his remains and I feel that the Top Ten List was only necessary to get his name, face and crime out there even if he has been removed from the list, but I hope like Webb his remains can be found in the next few years.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 22, 2019 19:33:45 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 23, 2019 1:03:03 GMT -5
Chief Manger apparently retired after 42 years. (sorry for being Mr. Technical here but "stepped down" is usually a term used for those who do it reluctantly or under pressure when Manger simply retired  . Good for him on his years of service though. I still maintain that the problem with Bishop being added was the timing. If he was still alive and added any time before 1990, I feel he would have been caught. Unfortunately, he was added four decades too late. (P.S. I also don't want to sound like I'm giving up, miracles happen, but I do fear this is one mystery we'll never solve, which off-topic which is why I'm so desperate to solve the Jason Derek Brown manhunt since he's still young enough to figure out the intrigue but the years are going by with him too). |
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Post by ninja108 on Apr 23, 2019 22:11:19 GMT -5
Chief Manger apparently retired after 42 years. (sorry for being Mr. Technical here but "stepped down" is usually a term used for those who do it reluctantly or under pressure when Manger simply retired . Good for him on his years of service though. I still maintain that the problem with Bishop being added was the timing. If he was still alive and added any time before 1990, I feel he would have been caught. Unfortunately, he was added four decades too late. (P.S. I also don't want to sound like I'm giving up, miracles happen, but I do fear this is one mystery we'll never solve, which off-topic which is why I'm so desperate to solve the Jason Derek Brown manhunt since he's still young enough to figure out the intrigue but the years are going by with him too). I fear that will be the case currently with a lot of the guys on the FBI's Ten Most wanted list,especially Robert Fischer and Alexis Flores. As for Bishop,sad to say but he will be one of the creeps who got away with it. |
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Post by graniterocks on Apr 26, 2019 1:53:45 GMT -5
And that will be unfortunately the case for many fugitives because as time goes on they are getting older for example many fugitives are in their mid 70s and will soon be in their 80s making it as you can see with the other case almost impossible to catch. I think none of the fugitives in their 70s will be caught due to the amount of time that has gone past and the aging that happens.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jun 15, 2019 0:48:20 GMT -5
It’s been nearly a year since Brad Bishop was removed from the Ten Most Wanted List, and at first I was very upset that they ended up removing a case that I had long been optimistic would be solved thanks to the list.
Unfortunately Bishop’s tenure on the Top Ten List didn’t result in a capture, did not end up locating him deceased or pushing him to surrender as I had thought would possibly happened back on April 10, 2014. Within the past year or so, I’ve reflected extensively on Brad Bishop’s removal from the Top Ten List, at first I took it very negatively, but you take a bad situation and you see the good in it, yes Bishop was bumped off the list, but in his place was a more recent and more dangerous fugitive that took his place.
The most recent addition of 80 year old Eugene Palmer, got to me understand that the FBI didn’t remove Bishop because of his age, rather they removed him because tips had stopped coming in on him for some time before Antwan Mims addition to the list.
Also the FBI added a 77 year old man in 2014, whose last known confirmed sighting was in 1976 (not counting the unconfirmed alleged sightings in Europe) and if he hasn’t been seen in over 40 years then it’s an indication that he could either be deceased, every fraile, or the investigation has hit a dead end (i.e. tips).
Since we aren’t the FBI, we don’t know if they only added Bishop to only remove him in a couple of years as the list was a complete crapshoot when Bishop was added in the spring of 2014.
Going back to the discussion of Bishop’s age, if the FBI was worried about adding an old fugitive, they would’ve never have added Eugene Palmer to the FBI Top Ten. A person in their 80s is pretty much dangerous, perhaps some of you guys may remember the man who shot a security guard at the holocaust memorial in Washington, D.C. in June 2009, the shooter was an 88 year old man named James Von Brunn, so anyone could be a very dangerous individual once they’ve reached that level of barbarity.
Flaws in the Bishop Case.
The FBI didn’t add Bishop to the Top Ten List in the 1970s however I feel they could have added him as late as 2009.
Investigators working the Bishop Case, decided to close the case in the 1980s only to reopen it in 1991/1992.
The men in prison Brad Bishop was communicating with via letter were never interviewed and Albert Kenneth Bankston died in 1983 well after the FBI decided to reopen the manhunt.
Another flaw is that much of the focus has been more in Europe (it makes sense since he allegedly preferred it there) than in the Americas, Africa, and Asia, though with Bishop’s addition to the Top Ten List did end up having some tips in those parts of the world.
Investigators kept overlooking to see if there was a link between Bishop and the CIA.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 15, 2019 7:27:19 GMT -5
I still maintain the 70's and 80's- perhaps even early 90's at the latest- after AMW caught John List (albeit not a top ten case- even though as much as I love John Walsh he keeps erroneously thinking List was on the top ten) and Unsolved Mysteries was in its' prime- was the absolute latest they could have added Bishop. The problem was never his addition but when they added him. They did generate some interesting leads, helped The Hunt gain some viewers with a 1-hour special and even caught a cold case fugitive in Mexico as a result of thinking he might be Bishop so perhaps it wasn't all in vain.
What is frustrating is the not knowing. Even if the fugitive winds in living openly a country they can't be extradited- sucks they got away with it (unless country relations improve)- but at least we know what happened and where they are. Bishop we can't say did or didn't get away with it. We will likely never know what happened to him unfortunately.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 15, 2019 7:31:01 GMT -5
Also I think tips still came in for Bishop, he was removed when it became apparent those tips weren't going anywhere. Basically they gave it a shot and didn't work out.
Palmer's also a senior citizen on the list, but his time on the run (if he is still alive) has been significantly shorter.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jun 26, 2019 23:44:18 GMT -5
I’m thinking perhaps Bishop did the same thing Victor Gerena allegedly did and fled to Mexico and then onto Cuba under an assumed name.
The fact that it’s an interesting destination at the time in 1976, nobody would suspect he’s there which could explain why he’s been at large for so long.... also Bishop could possibly be somewhere in China too since he allegedly read books about Mao Zedong according to James Bruno. There had been tips a few years that someone resembling Brad Bishop was found deceased in Hong Kong or that he was living there, but it also got me thinking, heck even in Taiwan, but Mainland China has never come up as a possible location.
Bishop has to be in or had been living in Cuba or China a guy like him can hide but with today’s technology you either have to be living with the Amish, live off the grid as a survivalist, or live in a country that has a questionable human rights record.
I would go as far as to say Bishop may have fled to Iran before relations deteriorated in 1979 and was eventually met with foul play by the government of that country, or imprisoned after the 1979 revolution that brought in the current regime.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 27, 2019 0:53:56 GMT -5
I still think if Bishop was alive a lot of where he went was dependent on comfort level. He liked living the good life or at least seemed to aspire to want to live the good life. Whether he could finance fancier European locales/foreign countries is another story.
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Post by TheWebDetective on Jul 6, 2019 23:23:13 GMT -5
Any chance you guys consider that he might have committed suicide if we are to assume he's dead? He was treated for depression. I just don't believe a person with that condition would murder his entire family and live for too long especially a high level government worker. My theory is with the taunts from the wife and mother (if they are to be believed) and the pass up from promotion was enough from a depressed Bishop's mind to "end it all" first with his family them himself.
I'm also on the fence as to if Bishop should've been added sooner. Of course you don't need to be a big time criminal to be added in the FBI top ten but I doubt they'd just add anybody in. My guess is before 2014 there wasn't much info or leads concerning Bishop other than the 1978 sighting by someone who happens to be a coworker of his.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2019 2:13:37 GMT -5
Eal22 feels the same way as you that he may have committed suicide and they just never found his body.
You actually just inspired another thought about this scenario.
Apparently the journal they found Bishop writes a passage from Walt Whitman's "A Song of the Open Road"- basically about being the master of your own destiny, not letting anyone holding you back. Most seem to interpret it as Bishop wanting to start a new life without the burden of his family. But perhaps it just means he is deciding his own fate, he gets to go out on his terms, etc...
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2019 2:15:18 GMT -5
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Nov 5, 2019 20:50:46 GMT -5
Apparently the other day on EBay I found a group of photographs (age progressed) of William Bradford Bishop, which were released by Scotland Yard and published by the Telegraph on 30-10-92 (writing on the back of the images). They believed that Bishop was living under a false identity in Britain.
Any thoughts about this? Unfortunately it no longer appears as someone has already purchased it.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 5, 2019 22:28:56 GMT -5
Didn't know about this but pretty interesting. There were decent sightings all over Europe and Graham Harrell's sighting in Italy. It's entirely possible those were false sightings and Bishop never made it out of North Carolina like eal22 thinks as well.
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. Good for him on his years of service though.