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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 27, 2018 19:46:08 GMT -5
I've said that earlier in the thread. The real problem was not adding Bishop in the 70s and/or 80's. The problem is they were more focused on domestic terrorism in the 70s and drug-related fugitives in the 80's (and somewhat 90s as well)
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Post by Maddog on Jun 27, 2018 19:55:00 GMT -5
“With the addition of Mims to the FBI's Top 10 list, the agency is removing William Bradford Bishop Jr., a man accused of killing his wife, three sons and mother in Bethesda, Maryland in 1976. Bradford Bishop was added to the FBI's list in 2014 and is the tenth person to be removed from the list without apprehension, death or dismissal of charges, said FBI Supervisory Special Agent David Porter. Porter said there have been no reported sightings of Bradford Bishop since 1976.”
I may be reading too far into this, but I take this to mean the FBI now has reason to doubt the three sightings in Europe. I also take it to mean that they suspect he is dead.
I was reading on Reddit that someone talked to a detective on this case and they said that the Italians had a body they believed belonged to Bishop, but the American authorities hadn’t gone over to confirm it. Anyone else hear of this and know more about this?
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 27, 2018 22:29:37 GMT -5
Never heard of this. I guess the sightings of Bishop depends a lot on the credibility of Roy Harrell.
I honestly believe that Harrell went to his grave thinking he saw Bishop that day in Sorrento in 1979, without a doubt.
The question is whether he was living in some sort of fantasy or not.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 3, 2018 0:16:16 GMT -5
I’m pretty curious to know what James Bruno’s take on Bishop’s removal from the list, despite saying 2 years ago, he was okay with removing him and I still have yet to make a my formal statement on the subject.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 3, 2018 5:02:45 GMT -5
Yeah I've been checking out James Bruno's blog yet and not statements yet- guess he was resigned to it and knows we'll probably never figure out what happened to Bishop.
While it sucks that it's probably more likely than not that we'll never figure the mystery out (I always have optimism in any case no matter how long the odds but admittedly long odds here), I don't know if we can say oh, he got away with it, the bad guy won... since we simply don't know what ever happened besides a few seemingly credible but unconfirmed sightings. To me the frustration is not that Bishop "won", he could have been dead in a ditch for 40 years or died some miserably depressed homeless bum in that or a similar fate worse than jail for all we know. I realize this isn't the movies, and in real life sometimes the bad guy or girl gets away, but there's no way to know whether he "won" or not. It's that we never solved the not knowing that imo is the depressing part of the case.
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Post by eal22 on Jul 5, 2018 22:55:58 GMT -5
“With the addition of Mims to the FBI's Top 10 list, the agency is removing William Bradford Bishop Jr., a man accused of killing his wife, three sons and mother in Bethesda, Maryland in 1976. Bradford Bishop was added to the FBI's list in 2014 and is the tenth person to be removed from the list without apprehension, death or dismissal of charges, said FBI Supervisory Special Agent David Porter. Porter said there have been no reported sightings of Bradford Bishop since 1976.” I may be reading too far into this, but I take this to mean the FBI now has reason to doubt the three sightings in Europe. I also take it to mean that they suspect he is dead. I was reading on Reddit that someone talked to a detective on this case and they said that the Italians had a body they believed belonged to Bishop, but the American authorities hadn’t gone over to confirm it. Anyone else hear of this and know more about this? My understanding is that the FBI didn't really believe in any of the Europe sightings and didn't think Harrell to be reliable at all.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 5, 2018 23:22:22 GMT -5
It is weird The Hunt decided to once again re-tell Roy Harrell's account considering, unless it was simply for the intrigue/draw viewer interest.
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Post by eal22 on Jul 5, 2018 23:43:11 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 5, 2018 23:55:00 GMT -5
Good to see his final take on it. Although as mentioned before, I don't necessarily share the take that Bishop "got away with it." He could have, but we'll never know for sure.
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Post by Maddog on Jul 6, 2018 9:54:20 GMT -5
Here’s the thing: Bishop is probably dead based on the FBI removing him from the list (they probably do not believe he’s alive if they made such a move). What I am curious about is where his remains are. I doubt they are in the Great Smoky Mountains. It’s the most visited National Park every year, and I’m sure in the past 40 years, someone would have found a trace of him. Any thoughts to where his body may be?
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Post by eal22 on Jul 6, 2018 15:21:09 GMT -5
It is hard to say if he is dead and if so did he die soon after the murders or later on because of ill health/old age. I think his removal reflects mostly that this case is as cold as it gets. There are essentially no reliable sightings of him since he appeared in that sporting goods store in NC soon after the murders. The key to the case could have been his correspondence with the prison inmate and discovering the identity of the woman he was with in NC. Unfortunately more time seems to have been spent publicizing these fantastical sightings in Europe.
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Post by catchumall on Jul 23, 2018 11:36:06 GMT -5
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Post by graniterocks on Nov 29, 2018 14:25:13 GMT -5
William Bradford bishop is probably still alive due to the fact that he is healthy and he used to be an avid hiker. I think the FBI may have given up on him as they took him of the list. It didn't make a difference when he was on the top 10 list. What happens if someone else did the murders and he is buried somewhere else ? Just because they have his fingerprints on the weapons does not mean he did the crime. He is a diplomat and can speak 5 languages. He knows how to make passports and he is a very intelligent guy. I have always believed that he is hiding somewhere in Sorrento Italy or the mountains in Switzerland as he liked walking. If he is in the mountains they will never find him. He is probably living by himself up there if he is. Can you imagine how hard it would be to find him if he is in a house in the mountains by the trees. He is only 82 which old but it's not 90 and over and today loads of people get to 90 and over. He probably will due to his lifestyle when he was younger. Roy harrels sighting I think was correct as harrel said that he saw bishop run to the boats that were going off to a place called capri. So bishop is probably living In capri to this day as I think it is an island of Italy. He could possibly be living In Switzerland aswell. Due to these reasons together they will never find him.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 29, 2018 20:44:46 GMT -5
My personal feeling is Bishop is dead somewhere.
However, while every person accused of a crime, even a fugitive, is technically innocent until proven guilty, the evidence against Bishop is pretty overwhelming (in addition to any forensic evidence, the circumstantial evidence-his behaviour according to co-workers when he didn't get the promotion, the gas canister from the hardware store that was seemingly definitely bought by him, his essay/diary entry about wanting to be free etc...)
If anything, there is probably more evidence supporting Robert Fisher being innocent than Brad Bishop being innocent. (Although my personal opinion is both are guilty).
But yes, thanks for posting on a new topic! I do agree unfortunately this may remain forever a mystery.
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Post by graniterocks on Nov 30, 2018 5:37:47 GMT -5
Yes he is probably dead but as I said there are many 90 and over year olds still alive so he cant just be forgotten. He is probably in a country that has a high quality of life but what happens if he is kept in a hospital and no one even knows his real name. He will be impossible to find then. Robert William Fisher probably shot himself in one of those caves but this can be ruled out as they searched each of the caves but they found nothing. I strongly believe that Robert William Fisher shot himself in one of those caves but who knows he could still be out there today. William Bradford Bishop will never be found because if he has not be been found in the last 40 years it is pretty safe to say he is either dead or he is just very good at hiding.
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