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Post by theczar on Apr 2, 2013 13:19:57 GMT -5
Fugitive Profile as of August 30th, 2014 (Based on Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Most Wanted website): Sex: Male Born: November 1954 Hair Color: Brown Eye Color: Blue Weight: 161 lb / 73 kg Height: 5 ft 9 in / 175 cm Physical Characteristics: Wears eyeglasses Tattoos: Upper right arm, cat with "Lucky" inscribed below. Left upper arm, coyote & moon, dagger through a red rose. Other Descriptions: Clean shaven (at time of disappearance). Wears silver rimmed glasses Who to call if you've seen him: Nearest RCMP detachment or call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPSKevin Vermette is wanted for a triple homicide that occured in 1997 in British Columbia. At the gym where Vermette worked out, police say he approached Mark Teves regarding the music being played at the gym. Vermette allegedly used racial slurs referring to the music, and a feud began between him and Mark, as well as Mark's friends who also used the gym. They had several run-ins after that, and a month after the first conflict, another arguement ensued which resulted in Vermette assaulting Mark. In July 1997, someone slashed Vermette's tires. Vermette blamed the 4 men, and claimed he would kill them. Later that day, Mark and his three friends stopped by a park on their way to a party. Mark and two of his friends were shot dead and the other friend was severely injured. Fishermen overheard the shots and discovered the four. Based on eyewitness testimony, police were able to charge Vermette with the murders, but despite a large search, he is still at large. While he easily could've created a new identiy for himself, my belief is that he probably committed suicide in the woods near the crime scene. Search parties always miss remains, and if he walked on foot long enough, there's a good chance they never even came across his remains. Thoughts? Admin Note: If you have any news-related updates on this case, please contact us here: amwfans.com/thread/1662/website-contact-form
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 2, 2013 13:37:50 GMT -5
It seems half the residents of his own community are divided on whether Kevin Louis Vermette killed himself or ran away: www.ctvnews.ca/b-c-wilderness-has-hidden-many-fugitives-1.288885But it also seems there's a lot of wilderness around where he was, and not many escape routes, so perhaps Vermette is living as a survivalist somewhere. I also remember when he had a profile on AMW.COM, it mentioned Alaska as a possibility for where he was hiding.
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Post by theczar on Apr 2, 2013 14:29:20 GMT -5
It's possible he fled to Alaska. But it just seems that these type of crimes, especially those near the wilderness, always end in suicide. Maybe that's why there hasn't been many solid leads on him; it's because he's not far off from where it happened.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Apr 2, 2013 15:58:10 GMT -5
I agree with suicide as well; crimes like these tend to end up with suicide. I feel that the problem with finding remains in regions like Northern British Columbia or even Alaska is that a wide variety of animals can carry remains away so people wouldn't suspect the remains are human.
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 21, 2013 6:10:55 GMT -5
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Post by pakman on Jan 8, 2014 12:59:36 GMT -5
Didn't they say the same thing about Beacher Hackney? Then a few months later they found his body.
Vermette's a complete mystery, and I'm in agreement with the consensus that he's probably dead. There's a lot of places to hide a body in the wilderness.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 9, 2014 12:44:39 GMT -5
Well let me play devil's advocate even though I'm outnumbered here. Was Vermette a loner? Seems that way. Do loners often commit crimes and then kill themselves? All the time. But the types of crime where you see that happen where the person/loner kills themselves afterwards- a workplace shooting or other type of public mass shooting (schools, malls, etc) or shooting of family members- didn't happen here. This was a different kind of mass murder. When Beacher Hackney shot up the resort he worked at- in my opinion he was already planning on ending his life and wanted to take the people he felt responsible for ruining it (by moving his shift) before he ended it. I find it weird Vermette would kill himself over this crime. If he thought the cops were approaching and he didn't want to go to jail maybe. He had specific targets he had a vendetta against for a ridiculous reason. I find it weird a man that petty would allow himself to die essentially because of them after shooting them. I know this sounds like backtracking- but I'm not necessarily disagreeing with everyone here. I'm just saying I'd have more confidence he's alive than I did when Beacher Hackney's whereabouts were still unknown. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet that if he is dead, it's because he succumbed to the elements and not because of suicide.
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Post by theczar on Jan 10, 2014 1:39:48 GMT -5
Let's look a both scenarios. It's absolutely possible that Vermette was able to go through the woods and escape. He wouldn't have had all the time in the world, since I imagine the police got there as soon as there were reports of gunshots, but he could've fled rather quickly, especially if he had transportation ready for when the shootings were over. On the other hand, if he felt the police were closing in on him, even if they weren't, he could've taken his own life, instead of facing the rest of his life in prison. He was a loner, and I feel guys like him would be more prone to committing suicide simply to avoid prison life, since they may feel they wouldn't be able to handle it.
Personally, my belief is that he is dead. I remember reports and alleged sightings of Hackney after his crime, and we all know now he was dead shortly after it happened. I still stand by the theory of him killing himself in the woods, and his body has just yet to be found.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 10, 2014 11:10:42 GMT -5
You're in the majority, Czar. I guess I was trying to say yeah a lot of things point to him possibly being dead, but I'm not as confident as you guys are and was just trying to play devil's advocate and inspire some debate. But it's pretty much everyone against me on this one. I'm going to look dumb if we ever find out he did kill himself, but it wouldn't be the first time that's happened to me.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 28, 2015 8:46:36 GMT -5
I posted this in the Paul Jackson thread since a poster from websleuths thought this could possibly be him- but does anyone else think the skeletal remains mentioned in the thread below actually sound more like it could possibly be Kevin Vermette as opposed to Jackson? www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-284217.htmlIronically, one of our new members who registered in the past few days wanted to discuss this case. I hope our new member logs on and posts so I can ask if this sounds like Vermette at all. Edit: Obviously not Jackson since he was ironically arrested a few hours I posted this.
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Post by pakman on Oct 3, 2015 7:05:57 GMT -5
The only issue I have are the pair of glasses - I Googled "tortoise-shell glasses" to see what they looked like, and, based on photos, those aren't the ones Vermette wore. Granted, that doesn't really mean too much, because he could have had a different pair we weren't aware of. Most everything else matches up, at least with the information that's publicly available. I think his name should at least be submitted as a tip.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 3, 2015 7:22:44 GMT -5
Yeah, the tortoise shell glasses is the most obvious difference. I was hoping our new member would post, they said they knew Vermette before he went on the run so I thought it would give us some interesting insight. Hopefully they do one day.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 3, 2015 9:48:45 GMT -5
Submitted a tip to Kitimat Crime Stoppers. I admit, the odds are against this being him, but you never know and this matches up at least. Just in case, I want to state for the record we were the first ones to notice and should be credited if there's more to this.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Dec 16, 2015 18:30:42 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 16, 2015 18:35:45 GMT -5
I understand but I think my lead can still pan out.
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