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Post by HeadMarshal on Mar 24, 2015 11:19:42 GMT -5
  (Above photo credits: fbi.gov) Aliases: Gerardo Beltran Rico, Gerardo Rico DESCRIPTION Date(s) of Birth Used: January 16, 1957 Place of Birth: Mexico Height: 5'7" Weight: Approximately 150 pounds NCIC: W267747279 Occupation: Beltran has previously held a position as a Catholic priest. Hair: Black Eyes: Brown Sex: Male Race: White (Hispanic) Nationality: Mexican Remarks: Beltran may have fled to southern Mexico. --- Between 1989 and 1991, the FBI says that while working as a priest in Sacramento, California, Gerardo Beltran sexually abused two girls under the age of 14. In 1992, Beltran fled and an arrest warrant was issued. In 2007, a local Sacramento television station went to the small Mexican town of Iqualita where they located Beltran and found out he had been practicing mass there for years. In 2008, Beltran was finally arrested in Mexico City. Plenty of media reports covered his capture but five months after that, Mexican authorities released Beltran saying that the statute of limitations had expired on his case. This month, the FBI added his wanted poster to their featured fugitives website. -- Thoughts? I understand Mexico is a nation with laws that are different compared to those in the United States, including statute of limitations for different crimes. However, if you are going to immigrate to the United States from your home nation of Mexico, then you should face the consequences from the nation you are charged with committing the offenses in, the same thing if you were born in the US but you went to Mexico to commit crimes. Sadly, who knows where Beltran is hiding out today, perhaps in another small Mexican village where children are at risk of being sexually abused by him. www.fbi.gov/wanted/cac/gerardo-beltran/viewmedia.apps.chicagotribune.com/fugitives/priests.html#!/detail/gerardo-beltran www.bishop-accountability.org/news2008/03_04/2008_03_14_CBS13_FormerSacramento.htmAdmin Note #1: According to the fbi.gov website, If you have information regarding the whereabouts of Gerardo Beltran then contact your local FBI office or US Consulate. www.fbi.gov/contact-usAdmin Note #2: If you have any news-related updates pn this case, please contact us here: amwfans.com/thread/1662/website-contact-form |
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 24, 2015 11:28:43 GMT -5
So many of these guys have exploited religion like Beltran allegedly has that it really annoys me. I'm not the most overly religious person, I was raised Jewish by parents from two different religions but also believe some of the teachings of my Catholic side as well. (for instance, even though Jewish people technically aren't supposed to believe in hell, I think there is karma and punishment for those that deserve it). So as a multi-faith person, it does upset me to see these alleged frauds.
In any case I am confused as to what happens if he's captured in Mexico. If the limitations had run out then, what happens if he gets arrested now? Are there new charges we don't know about? I think our best bet is if Beltran fled back to the states, which unfortunately is unlikely.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Mar 24, 2015 16:02:30 GMT -5
In Episode #1013 of a certain show, a character said, "No one single answer is THE answer". It could easily be adopted as a motto for religious pluralists. But it probably doesn't matter what religion anyone is. We should all want to see him caught, and we should all want his next victim to be spared any horrible abuse, but sadly, I don't think Mexican laws are strong enough to quell the threat he poses. This is mostly a matter of one fugitive exploiting the differences between 2 nations' laws.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 27, 2016 20:14:37 GMT -5
Apparently Beltran is the FBI's case of the week, I wonder if they have any additional information on him that will get him caught? Honestly Beltran is a very significant challenge now, but he's not a cold as ice case because after he was arrested in 2008 it was like they started the clock all over again and it's been 8 years since then. I honestly believe that Beltran will be caught soon and since he is wanted by the FBI I think he's not going to keep getting away with his crime. now that there are new charges on him and I hope he is caught because as a Catholic I'm upset by this case and I'm sorry for this mans perverted actions, not all priests are like this a lot of them will hear you out of you struggle and tell you it's going to be okay, but there's some that will take advantage of people in this way. This is as deep emotional of a response as you'll get from me here on the site, (sorry if it gets too religious) but I'm proud of being Catholic, but having people that do these things or have a craving for these kind of things and prey on teen girls really shouldn't be in this line of service.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 28, 2016 2:00:29 GMT -5
My views on religion are very complicated as stated above  , but I do believe most religions are well meaning but certain people, like Beltran, or Victor Barnard, for example, take advantage of religion to exploit others. Whether you're an atheist, agnostic, Catholic, Mormon, whatever, I have always appreciated the basic set of Jewish principles which to somewhat summarize states even if you're not Jewish as long as you're not a crummy person to others, you should get into heaven (or even if you don't believe in heaven, just don't be a crummy person to others anyway since life is relatively short compared to how long the planet has existed/will exist to be that hateful LOL). Beltran obviously has allegedly been a crummy person to others (perhaps the biggest understatement I've ever made on this forum), and still needs to be punished if proven guilty. |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 28, 2016 13:13:21 GMT -5
That is true guys like the examples you have mentioned, will always try to use something in order to prey on children which is "Crummy" as you say. Also do you think they may have gotten some new information on him recently that will likely lead to him?
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 28, 2016 18:28:09 GMT -5
The thing is if law enforcement receives new information they often aren't going to say it in public since they don't want to show their hand. The only time they reveal new information is if they think it's something that the public could help with.
It's entirely possible they have new information, but they're not going to say it for investigative purposes.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 28, 2016 18:34:16 GMT -5
Yeah I was wondering because if they made him their case of the week they either have information that they don't want the public or Beltran himself knowing about as it could jeopardize their investigation or he may have been chosen as Case of the Week out of sheer randomness.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 20, 2017 16:58:24 GMT -5
I’m going to switch one cold case crimes against fugitive for another when it comes to fbi top ten contenders. I’ve been on the record saying Barrett Busschau may be added, but remembering this case basically changes my opinion completely. This case would be a great return to the Top 10 adding CAC cases, plus he is a catholic priest and he stands out quite a lot. Beltran is a cold case fugitive known to be in Mexico because he’s been arrested and through investigation is known to be in southern Mexico, which is the state of Chiapas. Beltran is dangerous because he is/was a catholic priest and his position gives him access to vulnerable children and even teens.   Also these images are from 2005 and an article going in depth about this case. www.google.com/amp/sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/04/19/judge-allows-victims-to-seek-punitive-damages-against-church/amp/ |
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 20, 2017 22:34:09 GMT -5
There are currently three open slots on the top 10 list. Logic would say two of the three spots will likely to go to newer fugitives, while the third will be the "wild card" where they can afford to take a chance with a cold case.
I'd have no problems if they chose Beltran although I get more of a top 10 vibe from Busschau.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 20, 2017 23:08:49 GMT -5
There are currently three open slots on the top 10 list. Logic would say two of the three spots will likely to go to newer fugitives, while the third will be the "wild card" where they can afford to take a chance with a cold case. I'd have no problems if they chose Beltran although I get more of a top 10 vibe from Busschau. Whoa you get a Top Ten vibe with Busschau? (I won’t lie I do as well) The good thing is Beltran was arrested once while on the run, and they have images available of him from 2004/2005. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 20, 2017 23:34:18 GMT -5
I know it mah sound weird, as much as I say I don't believe in psychics it's not so much any logical factors (which I can make as well) other than just some kind of premonition lol.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 6, 2018 14:03:45 GMT -5
I had a very interesting dream last night, I was on my phone looking at the FBI site, when suddenly I saw a cold case fugitive replaced Jesus Munguia. The fugitive was not someone I have as a candidate at the moment, but it was Gerardo Beltran, a Catholic priest wanted for molesting 4 female victims in California over the course of 1991. Ironically this month will mark 10 years since he was incarcerated and then subsequently released from a prison in Mexico. I found an article about his arrest in 2008 and that church officials were then aware of him after his arrest. This means that since his arrest in 2008, Gerardo Beltran May have been living a quiet lifestyle away from church related activities. Also according to this article, he was living in Igualita, Guerrero, Mexico, and that they had knowledge as early as 2005 that he was living there, but was arrested in 2008. Also many in Igualita think he’s molested multiple children there too, as well as impregnating the then 17 year old daughter of the assistant chief of police of Igualita. www.bishop-accountability.org/news2007/03_04/2007_03_01_Shane_NewAccusations.htmwww.bishop-accountability.org/news2007/01_02/2007_02_06_Shane_CBS13Continues.htm |
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 6, 2018 14:50:20 GMT -5
Ever since Comey replaced Robert Mueller (whatever happened to that Mueller guy anyway?), and ever since Chris Wray replaced Comey (also him, is he still in the news?), there has not yet been a CAC fugitive added to the FBI top ten list. (Toth under Mueller in 2012 was the last one).
As a matter of fact, Myloh Mason has been the only fugitive added since 2013 not charged with murder (but he was charged with attempted murder).
I know the FBI director technically doesn't choose who gets put on the list and simply gives his thumbs up or down on who the media panel picks, but I still find that kinda telling.
However, there is a first time for anything (or rather this would be a first time in six years) and Beltran would be a good selection.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 6, 2018 14:53:02 GMT -5
Ever since Comey replaced Robert Mueller (whatever happened to that Mueller guy anyway?), and ever since Chris Wray replaced Comey (also him, is he still in the news?), there has not yet been a CAC fugitive added to the FBI top ten list. (Toth under Mueller in 2012 was the last one). As a matter of fact, Myloh Mason has been the only fugitive added since 2013 not charged with murder (but he was charged with attempted murder). I know the FBI director technically doesn't choose who gets put on the list and simply gives his thumbs up or down on who the media panel picks, but I still find that kinda telling. However, there is a first time for anything (or rather this would be a first time in six years) and Beltran would be a good selection. I agree there is a for time for anything, also what are your thoughts on what he’s accused of and what he’s alleged to have done in Mexico in the 2000s? Those are clearly some awful and nasty things. |
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, but I do believe most religions are well meaning but certain people, like Beltran, or Victor Barnard, for example, take advantage of religion to exploit others.
