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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 29, 2024 21:44:33 GMT -5
Also, I knew Kevin Anderson would get a profile but thought it wouldn’t be until the last episode as they seem to have bumped him up. To be honest, I think he’s dead but it certainly doesn’t hurt to air him again just in case.
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Post by ninja108 on Jan 29, 2024 22:26:26 GMT -5
Rodney Allen segment was well done. Hammered down the point that financial fugitives can cause just as devastating damage as other kinds of fugitives. One of my biggest pet peeves has always been the people who play down some of the financial crooks AMW has caught over the years. In particular, I remember Lizzette Garvin and Anthony Quick. The latter was preying on elderly victims and has been arrested several times since his AMW capture for continuing to prey on elderly victims (got almost five years in NJ for it.) Garvin (who also can't stay out of trouble) admitted that she's been a thief her whole life and wasn't likely to change and like Quick, has been in trouble since her time on AMW. Rodney Allen is of a similar vein and I won't feel bad at all if he's the first capture for the new AMW.
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Post by mjm076 on Jan 30, 2024 22:18:19 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there’s a way to suggest the re-visitation of a missing child case that “America’s Most Wanted” covered years ago that hasn’t been solved yet?
I ask because in 1991 they covered the disappearance of Michael Dunahee from BC, Canada. It’s been almost thirty-three years and Michael still hasn’t been found! There was a new age-progression released a few years ago on the 30th Anniversary and I think “America’s Most Wanted” should show it!
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 31, 2024 5:37:24 GMT -5
You can private message their Facebook to suggest a case although I will say at the moment it seems they are doing things on their own.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 31, 2024 20:10:11 GMT -5
Good news hearing from a source Fox is actually very happy with AMW’s ratings so far. I thought they were ok but overall tv numbers are different from 2021. I may have thought the numbers seemed low but things have likely changed since three years ago.. probably what is happening is AMW is actually doing pretty good for Fox compared to their other shows and doing decent against competition percentage wise. (Just ABC CBS and NBC’s shows are doing better than most of Fox ‘s shows… please note this is just my speculation as to why they’re happy with the ratings- as long as they’re happy I’m happy though lol)
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Post by andrendp on Feb 1, 2024 0:53:30 GMT -5
Good news hearing from a source Fox is actually very happy with AMW’s ratings so far. I thought they were ok but overall tv numbers are different from 2021. I may have thought the numbers seemed low but things have likely changed since three years ago.. probably what is happening is AMW is actually doing pretty good for Fox compared to their other shows and doing decent against competition percentage wise. (Just ABC CBS and NBC’s shows are doing better than most of Fox ‘s shows… please note this is just my speculation as to why they’re happy with the ratings- as long as they’re happy I’m happy though lol) I think part of that is the ratings structure changing, too. Everybody's cord cutting and going to streaming now, so even an unspectacular number, if it's solid, is going to look appealing, especially to FOX, who crashed and burned HARD with their streaming service.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 1, 2024 6:07:27 GMT -5
Good news hearing from a source Fox is actually very happy with AMW’s ratings so far. I thought they were ok but overall tv numbers are different from 2021. I may have thought the numbers seemed low but things have likely changed since three years ago.. probably what is happening is AMW is actually doing pretty good for Fox compared to their other shows and doing decent against competition percentage wise. (Just ABC CBS and NBC’s shows are doing better than most of Fox ‘s shows… please note this is just my speculation as to why they’re happy with the ratings- as long as they’re happy I’m happy though lol) I think part of that is the ratings structure changing, too. Everybody's cord cutting and going to streaming now, so even an unspectacular number, if it's solid, is going to look appealing, especially to FOX, who crashed and burned HARD with their streaming service. Yes, I think this is it too! Cord cutting was happening still in 2021 but every year it gets more and more rampant. Gone are the days of only three networks where even the “worst” rated show still had 8 million or whatever viewers. So aside from sports some shows whose numbers seemed low even as recently as 2021 are now impressive in today’s landscape (not to mention we don’t know the numbers for DVR Hulu etc… and I’m not sure how they track those who just use digital antennas as well)
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Post by brandenfields on Feb 2, 2024 21:46:41 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 2, 2024 22:26:11 GMT -5
Saw that too and that’s fine. Could be a new fugitive, who in general are easier to find because they don’t realize anyone is really looking for them yet. I can wait to find out.
I am surprised Tyler Wilkinson and Tahje Michael aren’t caught yet (and Jacob Dean Not So Smart for that matter) I thought perhaps it was a niche cable problem with In Pursuit but maybe it’s on overall too much media consumption problem and fugitives aren’t as easy to catch off just tv anymore (I still think it is the most effective medium but AMW can work on website and social media presence as well to enhance captures).
Gonna remain patient though, the ratings are good, we just need the captures. And I think we will eventually see them.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Feb 3, 2024 9:57:48 GMT -5
I am surprised Tyler Wilkinson and Tahje Michael aren’t caught yet (and Jacob Dean Not So Smart for that matter) I thought perhaps it was a niche cable problem with In Pursuit but maybe it’s on overall too much media consumption problem and fugitives aren’t as easy to catch off just tv anymore (I still think it is the most effective medium but AMW can work on website and social media presence as well to enhance captures). Keep in mind one thing. Most of AMW’s classic run from 1988-2012 was an era when viewers wanted to fight back against crime in their community. Hence why AMW was rebranded “America Fights Back” in late 1996. I think that was a time when viewers really wanted to call in with potential tips regardless of how accurate they were. Fast forward to the 2020s decade and the true crime tv genre has been heavily sensationalized. Viewers want to be captivated by compelling stories and speculate on theories on sites such as Reddit. The fact that we have gone from viewers wanting to fight back against crime to the era of the IDaddicts honestly makes me think that viewers may be less likely to call in with potential tips.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 3, 2024 12:45:19 GMT -5
That’s fair but I still look at this the ratings are good but even if AMW was the highest rated non sports show on Fox it still might be not much more than back in 2010. What you say is true too, but I also do think increased competition where there’s not just networks but Netflix YouTube videos podcasts etc… to choose from as to how spend your time is affecting things as well.
Perhaps engaging fans to “fight back” more may help as fan engagement is still one thing I think they could improve on (yes I’m still petty they’re ignoring us lol but I feel it is a microcosm of lack of fan engagement overall- at first the tweets shown on the 2021 version annoyed me but in retrospect that was one of the few good ideas that version had to make the show more interactive- Live PD and now On Patrol Live excel at social media and getting fans engaged)
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 3, 2024 12:47:46 GMT -5
Just wanted to add I also think we’ve only had two episodes so it is fair to not panic yet that there’s no captures as well. Perhaps the wait will be worth it for the third episode
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 4, 2024 8:50:55 GMT -5
P.S. I realize the irony that I complain about AMW's fans (not us I swear- we're the dedicated ones!) all the time and then say AMW should do more fan engagement. Just because I find a lot of fans annoying doesn't mean it's not a smart idea to do more of a social media effort to engage them- especially since a lot of the fairweather ones that claimed to be about the cause and then once AMW was cancelled after 2012 didn't bother to watch The Hunt or In Pursuit or the 2021 Vargas version of AMW or continue to follow the stories at all still might not know that AMW is back.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Feb 4, 2024 12:46:38 GMT -5
In regards to the caught on tape unidentified robbers, if none of them become “direct captures” this season then AMW needs to do away with the segment entirely. Those cases only need to be shown to a local audience through the news media and Crime Stoppers. Giving those cases national publicity has proven pointless so far. At least with fugitives, it’s more than likely the fugitive has fled the state, which is why you need national publicity.
I really believe the caught on tape (aka. crime alerts) segments is the number one issue holding the show’s potential back. The more I think about it, the more I cannot take that part of the show seriously. I understand that viewers in the 2020s decade find those cases relevant, but not getting any direct captures off those cases does not technically make them relevant.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 4, 2024 12:52:52 GMT -5
In regards to the caught on tape unidentified robbers, if none of them become “direct captures” this season then AMW needs to do away with the segment entirely. Those cases only need to be shown to a local audience through the news media and Crime Stoppers. Giving those cases national publicity has proven pointless so far. At least with fugitives, it’s more than likely the fugitive has fled the state, which is why you need national publicity. I really believe the caught on tape (aka. crime alerts) segments is the number one issue holding the show’s potential back. The more I think about it, the more I cannot take that part of the show seriously. I understand that viewers in the 2020s decade find those cases relevant, but not getting any direct captures off those cases does not technically make them relevant. I have a different issue in I’ve been dissatisfied with the selection of caught on camera segments overall- 2021 had an ATM theft who cares. And this year has had 800 bucks stolen from some rich person’s Tesla in Home Depot. Who cares. If you’re going to show caught on cameras at least do the more serious crimes like armed robberies. With that being said I do agree showing APB’s or 15 seconds of shame fugitives would be more useful from a capture perspective
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