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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 14, 2023 13:59:11 GMT -5
(Above photo credits: fbi.gov website) From the fbi.gov website: Aliases: Carlos El Puerco, El Puerco, Wilver Villegas, Wilver Palomino Date(s) of Birth Used October 21, 1981 Place of Birth Curumani, Colombia Hair Black Eyes Brown Height Approximately 5'7" to 5'9" Weight Approximately 190 pounds Sex Male Race White (Hispanic) Nationality Colombian Languages Spanish Reward: The United States Department of State's Narcotics Rewards Program is offering a reward of up to $5 million for information leading to the arrest and/or conviction of Wilver Villegas-Palomino. Caution: Wilver Villegas-Palomino is a ranking member of the National Liberation Army (ELN) and is wanted for drug-trafficking activities for the ELN Northeastern War Front in the Catatumbo region of Colombia and in Venezuela. A federal arrest warrant was issued for Villegas-Palomino in the United States District Court, Southern District of Texas, Houston Division, on February 13, 2020, after he was charged with narco-terrorism, international cocaine distribution conspiracy, and international cocaine distribution. SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS
Submit a Tip: If you have any information concerning this person, please contact the FBI via WhatsApp (neither a government-operated nor government-controlled platform) at 281-630-0330. You may also contact your local FBI office, the nearest American Embassy or Consulate, or you can submit a tip online at tips.fbi.gov.Thoughts? Villegas-Palomino was added today (April 14th, 2023) to the FBI's top ten list. I have a few thoughts but I'll save them for the reply.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 14, 2023 14:05:14 GMT -5
OK, now I will begin. First off I want to apologize for criticizing the addition of Ruja Ignatova to the top ten list as this is now the new worst addition since Semion Mogilevich. At least Ignatova added variety as a foreign female fugitive and reflected the new century with the bitcoin aspect.
Now we have a cocaine kingpin like this is the 1980s when not excusing it but the war on drugs has been sort of an unpopular failure and this guy is essentially a poor man's Pablo Escobar. A fentanyl trrafficker made more sense.
The FBI, and if they read this I want to let them know I think they do a great job overall, and my critique is only about how I feel they are handling the top ten list, I feel is treating the top ten list like we're in the year 1986.
Finally, my biggest gripe once again, is the FBI once again not recognizing the tradition that the list isn't always necessarily the worst of the worst but the worst of who can be caught via public tips.
Villegas-Palomino is definitely catchable, but aside from putting pressure on whatever country he's in where he might be hiding in plain sight, in general drug kingpins are caught via military-like intelligence and/or extradition/court battles or negotiations. He will likely be caught in a way that has nothing to do with the list.
There are too few domestic homicide, crimes against children, or even financial fugitives who victimized everyday citizens that someone mowing their lawn could recognize as their next door neighbor not being added over these guys. A domestic homicide fugitive like Jarvis Wright or Justin Smith would have made more sense in my opinion.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 14, 2023 14:08:52 GMT -5
Also for historical purposes Villegas-Palomino replaces Rafael Caro-Quintero in the list. (Who I also didn't entirely agree with but RCQ at least made some sense in that even though he was hiding in plain sight the list might have helped extradition pressure wise).
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Post by steven108 on Apr 14, 2023 18:02:27 GMT -5
The FBI has a Trends when it comes to new additions. Back then they used to add bank robbers to the list. I feel like this is the new trend where they’re adding drug traffickers and white collar criminals to the list instead of murderers and pedophiles.
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Post by steven108 on Apr 14, 2023 18:08:37 GMT -5
Also they have two remaining spots, they can be used for murderers and cac fugitives
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Post by Magmar on Apr 14, 2023 18:21:02 GMT -5
OK, now I will begin. First off I want to apologize for criticizing the addition of Ruja Ignatova to the top ten list as this is now the new worst addition since Semion Mogilevich. At least Ignatova added variety as a foreign female fugitive and reflected the new century with the bitcoin aspect. Now we have a cocaine kingpin like this is the 1980s when not excusing it but the war on drugs has been sort of an unpopular failure and this guy is essentially a poor man's Pablo Escobar. A fentanyl trrafficker made more sense. The FBI, and if they read this I want to let them know I think they do a great job overall, and my critique is only about how I feel they are handling the top ten list, I feel is treating the top ten list like we're in the year 1986. Finally, my biggest gripe once again, is the FBI once again not recognizing the tradition that the list isn't always necessarily the worst of the worst but the worst of who can be caught via public tips. Villegas-Palomino is definitely catchable, but aside from putting pressure on whatever country he's in where he might be hiding in plain sight, in general drug kingpins are caught via military-like intelligence and/or extradition/court battles or negotiations. He will likely be caught in a way that has nothing to do with the list. There are too few domestic homicide, crimes against children, or even financial fugitives who victimized everyday citizens that someone mowing their lawn could recognize as their next door neighbor not being added over these guys. A domestic homicide fugitive like Jarvis Wright or Justin Smith would have made more sense in my opinion. I agree your frustrations. It also bothers me when they put fugitives on the Top Ten List that were not listed on their website prior - many of which have detailed backstories, multiple photos, descriptors, and are likely residing in the U.S. There are so many fugitives on their site that truly feel like fast-catches if they just had more publicity. We've waited months in anticipation for that kind of fugitive - presumably one we'd have prior knowledge of - to be put on the list. Turns out to be an out-of-the-blue drug lord residing in South America with not much info on the poster (not downplaying his crimes or anything). Hopefully we see better additions for the next two spots, and hopefully it doesn't take several months.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 14, 2023 18:24:40 GMT -5
OK, now I will begin. First off I want to apologize for criticizing the addition of Ruja Ignatova to the top ten list as this is now the new worst addition since Semion Mogilevich. At least Ignatova added variety as a foreign female fugitive and reflected the new century with the bitcoin aspect. Now we have a cocaine kingpin like this is the 1980s when not excusing it but the war on drugs has been sort of an unpopular failure and this guy is essentially a poor man's Pablo Escobar. A fentanyl trrafficker made more sense. The FBI, and if they read this I want to let them know I think they do a great job overall, and my critique is only about how I feel they are handling the top ten list, I feel is treating the top ten list like we're in the year 1986. Finally, my biggest gripe once again, is the FBI once again not recognizing the tradition that the list isn't always necessarily the worst of the worst but the worst of who can be caught via public tips. Villegas-Palomino is definitely catchable, but aside from putting pressure on whatever country he's in where he might be hiding in plain sight, in general drug kingpins are caught via military-like intelligence and/or extradition/court battles or negotiations. He will likely be caught in a way that has nothing to do with the list. There are too few domestic homicide, crimes against children, or even financial fugitives who victimized everyday citizens that someone mowing their lawn could recognize as their next door neighbor not being added over these guys. A domestic homicide fugitive like Jarvis Wright or Justin Smith would have made more sense in my opinion. I agree your frustrations. It also bothers me when they put fugitives on the Top Ten List that were not listed on their website prior - many of which have detailed backstories, multiple photos, descriptors, and are likely residing in the U.S. There are so many fugitives on their site that truly feel like fast-catches if they just had more publicity. We've waited months in anticipation for that kind of fugitive - presumably one we'd have prior knowledge of - to be put on the list. Turns out to be an out-of-the-blue drug lord residing in South America with not much info on the poster (not downplaying his crimes or anything). Hopefully we see better additions for the next two spots, and hopefully it doesn't take several months. Hi magmar, Welcome to the forum! All good points. I think that's what frustrates me is let alone fast catches via public tips- some of the more catchable domestic fugitives even turn themselves in right away because they can't handle the pressure of being on the list.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 14, 2023 18:36:42 GMT -5
I’m glad they finally replaced Rafael Caro-Quintero, but I’m not happy as to who replaced him. This addition I don’t agree with, and the only good side to this is that Colombia green lit the extradition request to the United States hence why his reward wasn’t increased upon his addition, which means they’re onto him and adding him was to put pressure on the Colombian government?
Either way I hope they get him soon so they can replace him with an actual domestic fugitive that should be on the list.
Also I must add this is the first fugitive FBI director Chris Wray has personally announced the addition for a top ten fugitive and he chose the wrong fugitive to make the announcement for.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 14, 2023 18:57:18 GMT -5
Somewhat off-topic but I remember there was like a cocaine trafficker in the mid-2000s even AMW only aired once or as a 15 seconds of shame or something- sort of an indication John Walsh didn't agree with the addition- the name is escaping me atm but this sort of reminds me of that.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 14, 2023 19:15:51 GMT -5
I believe that was Diego Leon Montoya Sanchez he was added in 2004, and was captured in September 2007, he was the guy Jason Derek Brown replaced on the top ten list in December 2007.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 14, 2023 19:27:49 GMT -5
Thanks! Pretty sure that was it!
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Post by Maddog on Apr 14, 2023 22:16:20 GMT -5
I do hope the next two additions are domestic fugitives, but I can now see why Villegas-Palomino was added. Boy, the FBI can sell it in their press release! This man has imported 80% of all cocaine into the United States as of late. That’s pretty scary that one person has been the head of such a scheme. If anything, with that big of a footprint in crime, I am of the belief that the reward is too low.
I want to stress that I am not trying to disagree with others on the forum, but I am glad the FBI is cognizant of narco-terrorism. It’s a problem that will only get worse.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 15, 2023 5:38:13 GMT -5
It's fine to disagree and I did not know it was that much cocaine. It makes more sense now in that regard and the press release makes it make more sense now. I'm not changing my mind in my disappointment with the direction of the list lately and feeling they are not really adding enough domestic fugitives just at least the press release does sell it well I agree.
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Post by Maddog on Apr 17, 2023 20:51:16 GMT -5
It's fine to disagree and I did not know it was that much cocaine. It makes more sense now in that regard and the press release makes it make more sense now. I'm not changing my mind in my disappointment with the direction of the list lately and feeling they are not really adding enough domestic fugitives just at least the press release does sell it well I agree. I understand and respect your opinion. One thing I think the FBI did besides issue a lower reward than they should have was they also should have promised relocation for anyone who helped turn him in.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 18, 2023 16:16:17 GMT -5
I updated the thread as they redid his profile. As much as I disagree with adding him, I do think it is cool there is now a What's App option for tips.
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