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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 31, 2021 22:34:59 GMT -5
As we all know, unfortunately there has been an unfortunate trend of numerous hate crimes against Asian Americans in the past few weeks and month.
In my opinion, this is no doubt related to the coronavirus that originated in Asia and the dangerous rhetoric and insults hurled toward them as a result.
As citizens, we need to call hate crimes out when we see them, speak up, and share whenever we see any hate crime regardless of nationality, religion, orientation or gender.
Unfortunately hate crimes happen all the time against all groups of people but it seems like the Asian community is getting the brunt of these attacks lately.
We have to do better, and we will.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Apr 1, 2021 15:33:59 GMT -5
Then how come some people, a fraction of those who see themselves as the center between the party duopoly, tend to blame it all on the victims and their advocates for identifying the biggest share of the problem as coming from Tronald Dump Sr, the colorbashers in his administration, his personality cult, Falun Gong publications, Q-Anon, the directors of disgraced pseudo-documentary Plandemic, and congressional extremists who try to emulate Tronald and his rhetoric even after Tronald got bested in the '020 election, simply because both parties aren't being painted as equally guilty? I feel like people with such a grave neutrality bias and tendency to invoke the balance fallacy are willing to blow off evidence and objectivity because the evidence points towards one party and they're bitter that both sides aren't being treated with equal credibility or equal lack thereof.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 1, 2021 15:59:33 GMT -5
I really have no idea what you're trying to say but I really hope you're not disagreeing with what was supposed to be a post meant to denounce racism.
I would agree that both parties have their faults but there is one party clearly having a problem with extremists at the moment, and not being held accountable for their corrupt politicians while the other party is for example already calling for Andrew Cuomo to resign for his sexual harassment scandal (not excusing Cuomo but how come Trump never had to resign for all his numerous accusations and actually got away with bragging about grabbing women but now people want Cuomo to resign before an investigation for example)?
Just want to clarify since I may be misinterpreting you but otherwise this post was meant to be the nice and right thing to do in denoucning racism and inspiring us to do better and you have to be careful on this forum of having the social skills and social awareness of not ruining the moment (unless you were actually agreeing with me and just asking a question about your mostly correct concerns in which case I apologise for misinterpreting you).
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Post by 912thamwuser on Apr 1, 2021 17:08:06 GMT -5
I really have no idea what you're trying to say but I really hope you're not disagreeing with what was supposed to be a post meant to denounce racism. I would agree that both parties have their faults but there is one party clearly having a problem with extremists at the moment, and not being held accountable for their corrupt politicians while the other party is for example already calling for Andrew Cuomo to resign for his sexual harassment scandal (not excusing Cuomo but how come Trump never had to resign for all his numerous accusations and actually got away with bragging about grabbing women but now people want Cuomo to resign before an investigation for example)? Just want to clarify since I may be misinterpreting you but otherwise this post was meant to be the nice and right thing to do in denoucning racism and inspiring us to do better and you have to be careful on this forum of having the social skills and social awareness of not ruining the moment (unless you were actually agreeing with me and just asking a question about your mostly correct concerns in which case I apologise for misinterpreting you). Simply put, I agree with everything you said in your initial post, but I'm worried we have to fight back against both the racial violence proper and the pseudo-centrism that skews our society's discussion of it. And even if there isn't a backlash against liberals or Democrats when they rightly blame racial tensions or terrorism against a marginalized demographic mostly on today's Republican party and other reactionaries, just because people speaking out against the violence appear too liberal or leftist, I'm just a little skittish after the past 3 1/2 years of "both sides" rhetoric. Too many popular policy proposals that would objectively improve the quality of life in America, and too many valid criticisms of the economic, social, or racial status quo, have been shot down because they've been seen as liberal or leftist instead of balanced or politically neutral. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 1, 2021 17:31:38 GMT -5
Ok so now that I understand I apologize  But yeah I hate the "both sides" rhetoric. I admittedly used to be one of those people but one party is clearly worse than the other at the moment and have been overtaken by extremists. It used to be "both sides" before 2016 (somewhat) but not anymore. They need a "come to Jesus" moment and embrace the more sensible side of their party- such as Gov. Charlie Baker in Massachusetts and Gov. Larry Hogan in Maryland (or even Mitt Romney, I never thought I'd see the day where I'm telling Republicans to be more like Mitt Romney but he shows a moral compass at least). They are going down a dangerous path if they continue to embrace Trumpism despite him losing and we can only hope they finally realize that one day. |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 1, 2021 23:49:34 GMT -5
Ok so now that I understand I apologize But yeah I hate the "both sides" rhetoric. I admittedly used to be one of those people but one party is clearly worse than the other at the moment and have been overtaken by extremists. It used to be "both sides" before 2016 (somewhat) but not anymore. They need a "come to Jesus" moment and embrace the more sensible side of their party- such as Gov. Charlie Baker in Massachusetts and Gov. Larry Hogan in Maryland (or even Mitt Romney, I never thought I'd see the day where I'm telling Republicans to be more like Mitt Romney but he shows a moral compass at least). They are going down a dangerous path if they continue to embrace Trumpism despite him losing and we can only hope they finally realize that one day. Hey you mentioned the governor of my home state lol. I don’t agree with him most of the times, but he’s done great in standing up to Dumpie a year ago when the lockdowns first started. As for the Anti Asian hate crimes, I get everyone at this point is losing their minds as we’ve been locked in for over a year now, but still just because COVID-19 started in Asia does not mean the Asian community should take the brunt of the racist charged extremist rage. The problem of racism has gotten worse, and it has been for 6 years now since Dumpie announced his candidacy for President, the GOP isn’t helping in easing the tensions, at this point they’re just a liability, while I can give credit to guys like Charlie Baker and Larry Hogan for stepping up to the plate on the GOP side, but I’m fed up with the mainstream being so biased towards the center, when the policies that make people’s lives better are left wing and liberal policies. Honestly I wish all the racists in this country can quarantine from society indefinitely to be completely blunt, we don’t want them in the national discourse. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 2, 2021 0:09:02 GMT -5
I am hoping now that Trump is gone (I honestly don't even want to think about him anymore) it can subside. Democrats in U.S. need to make sure they pass laws to attempt to override these Jim Crow-like bills disenfranchising minority voters in states with Republican-controlled legislatures though.
And yeah policy wise I probably wont agree with Hogan even though I don't live in his state to know, but I feel like he represents the old school where the disagreements would be on policy. He seems to mean well and be a good guy even if I don't agree with him. Republicans have always been a party that favored the rich, but there used to be a lot more morality. It was Republicans who were the heroes of Watergate and pressure Richard Nixon to resign despite him being in their own party.
John McCain another example where I never agreed with him politically but thought deep down he was a good guy and a war hero.
Unfortunately the tea party infiltrated the party in 2009/2010 and it's been downhill ever since. They unfortunately continue to embrace the tea party instead of going back to the old school.
And it is also rather ironic politicians like AOC that are considered "extreme leftists/socialists" would be moderates if not conservative democrats in places like Venezuela. Wanting people to have things like free health care which is a right in supposedly less developed countries is somehow considered making you a leftist commie for example. Yes things cost money, but you'd be surprised how affordable things are if you properly budget and make the rich pay their fair share in taxes. I feel like a hypocrite since I order from Amazon all the time but maybe we could afford health care if Jeff Bezos actually paid like a billion more of his 500 billion income in taxes. So yeah grandma can't get that surgery because Bezos didn't want to give up an extra billion he didn't need?
But yeah I feel we can discuss this further in the general politics thread since we're veering sort of off-topic but yeah lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 13:53:13 GMT -5
These hate crimes are particularly disgusting. The 65 year old woman kicked in the head and the 61 year old man who was stomped on the head
He might die then it will be murder.
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