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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 10, 2020 20:41:29 GMT -5
Not a surprise but Live PD has been officially cancelled by A&E. As I said in the thread on Cops also being cancelled, I have mixed feelings. I support George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement, and there is a desperate need for police reform in this country (The issue is framed as us against them since we have a tendency to simplify things out of laziness- you can support the police but still be against police brutality), at the same time Live PD was not just a cop show but also did missing child segments and brought children home as well as wanted segments that caught dangerous fugitives. At the same time, they apparently destroyed footage of the latest "I can't breathe" arrest ending in death in Williamson County Texas and I think that's a PR nightmare you just can't get past. I do feel bad for Tom Morris as he is a member and friend of the forum, but these are different times right now. variety.com/2020/tv/news/live-pd-a-e-javier-ambler-austin-black-lives-matter-1234630742/ |
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jun 10, 2020 21:05:41 GMT -5
Not a surprise but Live PD has been officially cancelled by A&E. As I said in the thread on Cops also being cancelled, I have mixed feelings. I support George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement, and there is a desperate need for police reform in this country (The issue is framed as us against them since we have a tendency to simplify things out of laziness- you can support the police but still be against police brutality), at the same time Live PD was not just a cop show but also did missing child segments and brought children home as well as wanted segments that caught dangerous fugitives. At the same time, they apparently destroyed footage of the latest "I can't breathe" arrest ending in death in Williamson County Texas and I think that's a PR nightmare you just can't get past. I do feel bad for Tom Morris as he is a member and friend of the forum, but these are different times right now. variety.com/2020/tv/news/live-pd-a-e-javier-ambler-austin-black-lives-matter-1234630742/Destroying that tape sounded like bad judgment to me; Even if they're just chronicling law enforcement instead of serving as one of their official arms, whoever gave the order to destroy it should've known that something as serious and delicate as law enforcement needs every record it can keep. Destroying the tape only makes it more likely a killer gets away with it. |
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Post by pakman on Jun 10, 2020 21:33:02 GMT -5
I think the saddest irony of this is that the whole reason Live PD started was to give people a look at law enforcement and show a better side of them. I do agree that all cops are not bad, but from what I understand, it's the institution of police work that needs to change. Police were started initially to look for escaped slaves. You would hope that departments would grow beyond that...but sadly it appears that many departments have that hatred ingrained in them. It truly hurts me to say that, because there are some amazing police departments out there, like the ones I worked with in Iowa for so long. We actually had a sheriff that got into legal trouble and he was immediately suspended before he resigned. We had a bad cop who the department got rid of the day after an allegation of rape was leveled against him (though this was actually after years of complaints about that officer where nothing was done - including an instance where he tackled a black child who was just setting off fireworks - and it was only after a new chief came in that attitude changed). In my last few months at the paper, we also had a cop get demoted from sergeant to patrol officer, though I never did figure out why that was.
In the end though, much like with COPS, I believe Live PD's cancellation is a good thing. Perhaps in the future it can be brought back in a retooled format. Or maybe they can somehow create a new show based on finding missing children and fugitives that doesn't focus as much on what the actual officers do.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 10, 2020 22:26:28 GMT -5
Not a surprise but Live PD has been officially cancelled by A&E. As I said in the thread on Cops also being cancelled, I have mixed feelings. I support George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement, and there is a desperate need for police reform in this country (The issue is framed as us against them since we have a tendency to simplify things out of laziness- you can support the police but still be against police brutality), at the same time Live PD was not just a cop show but also did missing child segments and brought children home as well as wanted segments that caught dangerous fugitives. At the same time, they apparently destroyed footage of the latest "I can't breathe" arrest ending in death in Williamson County Texas and I think that's a PR nightmare you just can't get past. I do feel bad for Tom Morris as he is a member and friend of the forum, but these are different times right now. variety.com/2020/tv/news/live-pd-a-e-javier-ambler-austin-black-lives-matter-1234630742/Destroying that tape sounded like bad judgment to me; Even if they're just chronicling law enforcement instead of serving as one of their official arms, whoever gave the order to destroy it should've known that something as serious and delicate as law enforcement needs every record it can keep. Destroying the tape only makes it more likely a killer gets away with it. They defended themselves a bit and claimed they were on hiatus destroy all footage they don't use and actually partially so police can't use it against civilians. I also didn't realize the incident happened last August and not during this time but still the optics are terrible even if what they are saying is true. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 10, 2020 22:27:37 GMT -5
I think the saddest irony of this is that the whole reason Live PD started was to give people a look at law enforcement and show a better side of them. I do agree that all cops are not bad, but from what I understand, it's the institution of police work that needs to change. Police were started initially to look for escaped slaves. You would hope that departments would grow beyond that...but sadly it appears that many departments have that hatred ingrained in them. It truly hurts me to say that, because there are some amazing police departments out there, like the ones I worked with in Iowa for so long. We actually had a sheriff that got into legal trouble and he was immediately suspended before he resigned. We had a bad cop who the department got rid of the day after an allegation of rape was leveled against him (though this was actually after years of complaints about that officer where nothing was done - including an instance where he tackled a black child who was just setting off fireworks - and it was only after a new chief came in that attitude changed). In my last few months at the paper, we also had a cop get demoted from sergeant to patrol officer, though I never did figure out why that was. In the end though, much like with COPS, I believe Live PD's cancellation is a good thing. Perhaps in the future it can be brought back in a retooled format. Or maybe they can somehow create a new show based on finding missing children and fugitives that doesn't focus as much on what the actual officers do.
Exactly, there are many fine police officers underpaid and unappreciated who risk their lives every day. But the overall system in which these fine officers work in need to be reformatted and retooled. |
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jun 10, 2020 23:14:25 GMT -5
I think the saddest irony of this is that the whole reason Live PD started was to give people a look at law enforcement and show a better side of them. I do agree that all cops are not bad, but from what I understand, it's the institution of police work that needs to change. Police were started initially to look for escaped slaves. You would hope that departments would grow beyond that...but sadly it appears that many departments have that hatred ingrained in them. It truly hurts me to say that, because there are some amazing police departments out there, like the ones I worked with in Iowa for so long. We actually had a sheriff that got into legal trouble and he was immediately suspended before he resigned. We had a bad cop who the department got rid of the day after an allegation of rape was leveled against him (though this was actually after years of complaints about that officer where nothing was done - including an instance where he tackled a black child who was just setting off fireworks - and it was only after a new chief came in that attitude changed). In my last few months at the paper, we also had a cop get demoted from sergeant to patrol officer, though I never did figure out why that was. In the end though, much like with COPS, I believe Live PD's cancellation is a good thing. Perhaps in the future it can be brought back in a retooled format. Or maybe they can somehow create a new show based on finding missing children and fugitives that doesn't focus as much on what the actual officers do.
I knew that the plantation industry had its own recapture forces, but I had no idea that was how our basic police force system got built. It was only recently I realized they were linked. I wonder if Corrections Corporation of America should be getting more scrutiny, whether for-profit police protocols like arrest quotae to patch a city's ailing budget get enough condemnation in any venues the entire American public sees and hears. Because the first thing I see besides what's obvious and apparent is the suspected corporate profit and public budget motive that might be partly conditioning many modern-day police to think like slavehunters. But I'll be the first to admit that profits and conflicts of interest are only one piece of the puzzle to what's wrong with the law enforcement and justice systems as a whole. |
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Post by ninja108 on Jun 16, 2020 14:18:56 GMT -5
There are many fine men and women who put their lives on the line for us every day who deserve all the praise they can get and then some.
But there are people who shouldn't have a badge and are no better then the criminals they are supposed to protect us from yet they still get to keep their jobs because the people in charge of police unions want it that way.
That has to change.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 27, 2020 4:48:03 GMT -5
As we can see from some recent postings of mine, the missing child segments that were on Live PD now seems to have migrated over to Live Rescue, which is a spinoff show that is primarily EMT and fire-department related.
Additionally, A&E id airing 30-second PSAs of Missing children during their regular programming as well.
Dan Abrams at least in the past has seemed to indicate some hope they can bring Live PD back. It probably wouldn't be the same as before, but hopefully it would be for the better as far as being fair to both officers and civilians.
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