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Post by Maddog on Dec 24, 2019 14:31:53 GMT -5
www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-charles-police-seek-owner-of-unique-gun-that-may/article_dd095196-7451-52cb-9b49-f787e7d9f0b5. St. Charles, MO Police announced a couple of years ago that they are very confident that the killer used an Erma Werke ET-22 pistol. It’s a VERY rare gun. I guess they are moving away from the theory that the murder weapon was a Tec-22 handgun. I think it’s pretty smart they are putting emphasis on what type of gun was used - with this announcement, hopefully someone will know somebody who has a gun like this and loaned it. Regarding the killer, there were some very good sketches made. My guess is he is a drifter of some type. I remember reading that one witness saw him talking to himself in one of the MO killings, so I am guessing he may be suffering from either Schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder, or Schizoaffective Disorder. What cops should do is check with State mental hospitals to see if anyone remembers him. Might get tied up with HIPAA laws, but it’s worth a shot.
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Post by Maddog on Sept 23, 2021 20:29:20 GMT -5
I found the old ViCAP notice on the I-70 Killer.
Additionally, there is an interview on YouTube where the Detective currently assigned to the case out of St. Charles, MO revealed that the FBI had two groups of profilers look at the case and they both reached the conclusion that the killer was likely from the Indianapolis area.
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Post by Maddog on Sept 24, 2021 23:54:44 GMT -5
I have three questions I was hoping someone could answer:
1) I have heard from researching this case on the internet that one witness during the Raytown murder saw the suspect talking to himself. Anyone else hear that?
2) I have heard that an Erma Werke ET-22 (The St. Charles and Wichita PD seem adamant that this was the firearm used) is a fairly rare gun. Does anyone know how many total were manufactured?
3) Does anyone know if there is an age-enhanced sketch of the suspect?
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 3, 2021 1:47:12 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 5, 2021 11:38:08 GMT -5
Thank you phone autocorrect for changing drugs or mental problems to drugs oriental problems.
Hopefully you still got the gist of it from the link lol
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Post by Maddog on Oct 22, 2021 17:14:37 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS (THIS IS A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT): www.newsandtribune.com/indiana/news/police-release-new-sketch-of-i-70-serial-killer/article_87a53766-e899-5a47-a311-a11c7b593d83.htmlAuthorities now believe that the I-70 Killer is the person who murdered Billy Brossman. This means that the last killing was in late November of 2001. The Terre Haute Detective has spoken with the Missouri authorities investigating the homicides there, and they have concluded that the I-70 Killer also killed Brossman. Looking at this case again, the similarities are there: 1) The killer of Brossman ordered him to the back of the store and shot him in the back of the head, just like the rest of the victims; 2) Money was left behind at the scene (if you watch the video, one slot of bills remains in the tray). It appears coins were left behind, too. This would mean robbery was likely a secondary motive; 3) The killer looks remarkably similar to the composite; 4) The killer of Billy Brossman was described as 5’8”-6’0”, and in his 40s. At the time of the I-70 killings, the suspect was between 22 and 37, and consistently described as being between 5’7” and 5’9”, so the descriptions are consistent over time; 5) The murder of Michael McCown took place in Terre Haute, as well. The only key difference in the homicides is that Brossman was a man and that the murder weapon in his case was a .38 pistol. Age-enhanced sketches of the killer have also been released and are in the attached link. If the I-70 Killer is indeed responsible for the death of Brossman, that would make him victim #9. There are plans for a multi-jurisdictional review of this case in November. |
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Post by Maddog on Oct 22, 2021 21:00:19 GMT -5
Here is what the timeline of what the suspected killer’s likely location throughout this case:
1992: At the start of the killings, two FBI profiler groups determined the killer was likely living in the Indianapolis area.
November 2001: According to the new information released days ago, they believe the killer lived or worked in Terre Haute, Indiana.
2002?-: According to information received by Brossman’s mother, may be living in Missouri.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 22, 2021 22:33:59 GMT -5
What is odd is up to this point the I-70 killer's only known male victim was a male who was said to be someone that could get mistaken for a female.
All these other killings seemed random and like the I-70 killer had never met them before, so even though from all the sounds of it, Billy Brossman was a beloved worker who had no enemies, perhaps for some reason his murder was personal for the I-70 killer. Maybe he reminded him of someone who his divorced wife cheated on him with or something even if he didn't know Billy personally or something along those lines.
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Post by Maddog on Oct 22, 2021 22:41:08 GMT -5
What is odd is up to this point the I-70 killer's only known male victim was a male who was said to be someone that could get mistaken for a female. All these other killings seemed random and like the I-70 killer had never met them before, so even though from all the sounds of it, Billy Brossman was a beloved worker who had no enemies, perhaps for some reason his murder was personal for the I-70 killer. Maybe he reminded him of someone who his divorced wife cheated on him with or something even if he didn't know Billy personally or something along those lines. You bring up something that reminded me of this crime: I noticed a while back that the killer clearly had a wedding band on. This really surprises me because the early evidence in this case indicated he was a drifter. I’m more certain than ever now that someone out there knows who this man is. Regarding Billy: I wouldn’t rule out that he was solely in the wrong place at the wrong time. I’m almost wondering if the killer had been watching the store for some time and expected a female employee to be there. Once he saw Billy there, he was probably of the belief that there was no going back at that point. Either way, Brossman’s murder is one of the most absolutely senseless killings I have ever seen on AMW. He had absolutely no opportunity to defend himself and had complied with the killer’s requests. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 22, 2021 22:45:28 GMT -5
This is a great theory. I haven't read anything about who else worked with Billy but it makes a lot of sense he was expecting a female but was too far gone with his plan to go back.
And yeah at the very least whoever he married knows who he is.
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Post by Maddog on Oct 22, 2021 23:03:03 GMT -5
There is a video of the surveillance (they edited out the rear surveillance video that shows Billy’s life being senselessly taken) on Facebook. If you type in “Terre Haute Live PD”, the video pops up with commentary from the investigator assigned in Terre Haute. It looked to me like he left some money in the till, which raised the hairs on my neck because we know the I-70 Killer didn’t take all of the money from his robberies.
The thing is, this person has easy access to firearms, or may even collect them:
I-70 killings in 1992: The Killer likely used an Erma Werke ET-22 .22 pistol, although an Intratec Scorpion .22 cannot be ruled out.
Possible killings in Texas: The Killer used a different .22 gun.
Billy Brossman killing in 2001: The suspect used a .38 pistol.
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Post by Maddog on Oct 27, 2021 11:57:07 GMT -5
I found a composite sketch which was created with the help of an eyewitness who saw the I-70 Killer near the Boot Village where Nancy Kitzmiller was shot on May 3, 1992 in St. Charles, MO.
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Post by Maddog on Dec 26, 2021 0:29:49 GMT -5
Excellent five-part series "Chasing the I-70 Killer" from KMOV in St. Louis.
Here are the links:
Interesting new developments:
1) Michael McCown was not mistaken for a woman. They believe that the killer saw him there instead of a woman (they believe he targeted Sylvia's Ceramics because of the name), and shot him from behind to avoid any resistance. He also took McCown's wallet from the scene.
2) There are numerous articles from the various crime scenes that likely have the Killer's DNA on them. The Terre Haute detective seems incredibly optimistic that the killer will be found this way.
3) The investigators revealed that a mistake was made in 1992 by the investigators in revealing that the murders were linked by ballistics. Assuming the murders in Texas were committed by the same person, they believe he followed press coverage and switched guns.
4) More than 100,000 tips have been received. The majority of the tips were from people who recognized someone who resembled the composite.
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Post by Maddog on Apr 10, 2022 21:41:33 GMT -5
BREAKING: Harry Greenwell is being investigated as a possible suspect in the I-70 Killings:
The reasons they are looking at Greenwell:
1) Time pattern of the I-65 and I-70 killings; 2) Other "definite similarities" not discussed by law enforcement; 3) The composites, according to the investigators, resemble Greenwell; 4) Both killers traveled the highways for the purpose of killing.
Thoughts? I have my doubts it is Greenwell for the following reasons:
A) The height of the I-70 Killer is vastly different. Witnesses reported the I-70 Killer was 5'7" to 5'9". Greenwell was 6'4"-6'5"; B) No sexual assault has been reported in the I-70 killings, it was reported in Greenwell's killings; C) The age doesn't add up, either. Greenwell would have been 48 at the time the I-70 killings started, the I-70 Killer was described as being between 22-37;
I'm wondering what everyone else thinks. I certainly may be wrong, but there are some stark differences between the I-65 and I-70 killings.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 11, 2022 6:12:05 GMT -5
Yeah. They definitely should do their due diligence but not saying one case is worse than the other but usually serial killers get more brazen and you'd expect the sexual assaults to occur in the latter years (this case) and not the former years (I-65).
The composites do resemble Greenwell though I will admit that (I actually looked this time lol).
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