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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 6, 2016 8:35:05 GMT -5
Whew! Not just me then!
Proboards (our forum server/server for many forums) was down before but I thought they said they were back up. Guess not entirely back yet.
They're on West coast time so it could take a couple hours to get back to normal (normally business hours for them don't start until 3 hours til now)
No biggie. An inconvenience but it happens sometimes.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 6, 2016 8:43:52 GMT -5
I tried to refresh the tab that had the forum already but had a hard time refreshing and thought it was the wifi but then I requested to log in once I saw your post on here and saw that yeah It was due to the fact that the site was down.
But I hope it's back up soon.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jul 7, 2016 16:41:56 GMT -5
As the 2016 election season heats up, I realize that another war starting later in this decade, and from there, another military draft, will probably be more likely than the beginning of the decade. With a new law that allows women to fight in combat roles and requires both men and women to register for the Selective Service on their 18th birthdays, the risks for me and everyone else with certain similarities getting sent into combat gets harder for me to figure out. These are my current arguments for why I would or wouldn't get pulled into combat:
I might because: *If Trump beats Rodham, he seems like he'd be more likely to start another war than Rodham. This would primarily be a risk if Rodham supporters stayed home, or if gerrymandering continued to run rampant. *Our military combatants are spread thin across the world, primarily across SW Asia. We might need a lot more fresh manpower to accommodate more war. *I have a clean criminal record with a lean build as opposed to obesity. *If women fight in combat, they might send me into combat because the change in physical strength standards would affect me similarly. *I'm still a young adult, as opposed to pre-teen, high school teen, or middle-aged. *I still haven't figured out whether a slim build, fresh appearance, and anxious, fright-prone personality will make me more likely or less likely to get sent into combat than a hardened personality with medium-to-muscular build and more experience. Under people who see combat as a rite of passage and the best way to toughen children up and build character, this'll increase my risk.
I might not because *There might be things I can do to get sent to a non-combat role instead. The question is how exactly? *I have too much to lose as a combat casualty. I've worked hard for over a decade to achieve a healthy body and young appearance, and I have a lot more life span at stake. In other words, I'm too healthy and youthful to die. *I'm slightly-built rather than muscular, with a fresh face and a lack of real-world experience to match. *I have mid-to-high functioning autism, and with my shortage of executive functioning, I'd be even more frightened in scary situations like the front lines of combat, but I know a lot of similar youth won't have that argument. *It's possible that a college education reduces the risk of combat conscription, but in my case, this'll depend on whether an Associate of Arts would be enough. *A much smaller share of war is ground-based than ever before. Nowadays, many elements of American wars are technological and aerial, which reduces, but doesn't eliminate, the need for infantry.
So how should I assess my own risks?
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 7, 2016 18:02:28 GMT -5
Well 912 I'd support you if you were to enlist or not, personally these wars have dragged on for too long to the point where I oppose them.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2016 18:09:50 GMT -5
This is as political I'll get (as the forum admin I try to stay neutral when it comes to politics) but it should be noted Hillary did vote for the War in Iraq while Trump supposedly was against it. (It is easy for him to say when he wasn't in congress or the Senate at the time and was just an outside observer though). We currently have at least in the modern era the two most disliked presumptive nominees in American history, so we just have to hope that the country maintains itself whatever the results may be.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 7, 2016 18:27:46 GMT -5
My apologies if I give my political leaning here but Personally this is the reason I'll vote third party instead of the main 2, I don't want to vote for the lesser of 2 evils and their views match mine even despite the fact that they likely won't be elected, it'll make me feel like I'm not picking a lesser evil, I don't like these interventions as we've been in Afghanistan 15 years and Iraq is so destabilized that we should let the conflict play out. It's a sectarian problem in Iraq, that country needs to be split up into 3, give the land to the respected ethnicities.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2016 19:06:43 GMT -5
Everyone else can say yay Hillary or yay Trump (or screw Hillary or screw Trump) for all I care. My position is to stay neutral (I feel). All of you have less of a burden to since you don't have to run the site.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 7, 2016 19:10:43 GMT -5
Agreed, but either way I'd support our good friend 912 if he were to join the military or not that's my position, he's a great sleuth on here, very dedicated and has pride in what he does.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 7, 2016 19:21:42 GMT -5
I agree, but to answer 912th's question, I wouldn't worry about it until the time comes (and hopefully it doesn't). There are many factors even if they did reinstate the draft. My dad was physically and mentally fit in basically all aspects but they denied him because he failed an eye test.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 7, 2016 20:26:11 GMT -5
Well it's good to see some concern on behalf of 912th in regards to where the country is headed. For now 912th I wouldn't worry about it as long as Clinton and Trump don't try anything hawkish.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jul 8, 2016 0:20:28 GMT -5
Now isn't a good time to celebrate my 600th post, so...
If it wasn't clear before, I've never intended to enlist. The concern is all about conscription.
To TopTenHunter: Unfortunately, the condition on whether Rodham or Trump would do anything hawkish doesn't ease the pain. I don't have any sense of the odds that either one would start a war.
To Scumhunter: How extensive is the testing? If I have even mild digestive problems, mild hearing weakness (people's voices often get muffled in my ears), severe executive functioning deficiency, a delicate sensitivity to pain, and a volatile fear for risking my life that brings out grievous anxiety, they wouldn't specifically send me into combat if I were drafted involuntarily, would they?
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 8, 2016 0:37:36 GMT -5
The factors besides fear could possibly get you out (EVERYONE including me would have fear). But I guess it also depends on how desperate they are. My dad didn't go into extensive detail of everything they tested him on but the eye test is what did it. Hopefully I never have to be proven wrong but I feel based on all your listed conditions (besides fear) you would have a legitimate argument to be excused.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Jul 8, 2016 0:43:23 GMT -5
The factors besides fear could possibly get you out (EVERYONE including me would have fear). But I guess it also depends on how desperate they are. My dad didn't go into extensive detail of everything they tested him on but the eye test is what did it. Hopefully I never have to be proven wrong but I feel based on all your listed conditions (besides fear) you would have a legitimate argument to be excused. Depends on how desperate they are? It sounds like, overall, they'd categorize me into the "last resort" combatant reserves.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 8, 2016 1:06:53 GMT -5
I'm not in the military so this is just how I feel based on logic. I feel you'd have a good case to be excused.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jul 14, 2016 10:09:39 GMT -5
Well for my 666th post I decided to write a positive message even though it's a somewhat malevolent number. We need to learn to love one another and not hate, to use dialogue instead of violence. Good will overcome evil, unity will overcome discrimination, non-violence will overcome violence. Members of the forums, we are all heroes for a cause, we fight for justice, we want justice to overcome injustice and for non violence to overcome violence, we stand united for all these principles, we will continue to fight until every single day till every single evil doing fugitive is taken into custody, every single beautiful missing person is recovered, and to unsolved murder victims get answers, as well as those who are innocent and in prison.
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