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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 3, 2013 13:34:31 GMT -5
Surely we're familiar with Claudia Hoerig, aired a few times on AMW including the first ever episode of AMW on Lifetime. Karl Hoerig was an Air Force captain who met who was then known Claudia Sobral, born in Rio De Janiero, on an online datign site in 2005. The couple who were in love at first soon seemed to be disinterested and everyone who knew them felt the marriage was headed towards divorce. Instead, it ended in murder. On March 12th, 2007, Major Karl Hoerig was found dead from a gunshot wound to the head, and Claudia had fled to her native Brazil, accused of his death. However, despite numerous attempts over the years, Brazil refused to cooperate in helping to find and extradite Hoerig to the U.S., because it does not extradite its' own citizens. The reason I'm posting about Hoerig today is because I learned there is a major development in this case. Timothy Ryan, who represents Ohio in the U.S. congress, announced earlier this week that Brazil has revoked Hoerig's citizenship. According to Ryan, the Brazilian government is responsible for finding her, fielding any appeals she might file, and turning her over to U.S. marshals. Ryan said he is reasonably confident that Claudia Hoerig will be returned to the United States and Trumbull County in “weeks, not months. It’s in Brazil’s best interest to resolve this.” This is positive step and great news she is no longer immune as extradition as a result (according to the article below). But of course, she still needs to be found first. Let's hope justice is going to get accelerated in the near future. www.vindy.com/news/2013/aug/01/brazil-revokes-citizenship-of-accused-va/www.clevescene.com/cleveland/dead-run/Content?oid=2719967&storyPage=3 *****************UPDATE********************************************On Wednesday, April 20th, 2016, Claudia Hoerig was arrested in Brazil after the country's Supreme Court ruled against her claims of citizenship. However, amwfans.com is holding off an announcing her as captured until she is officially back in the United States *****************UPDATE**********************************************Admin Note: If you have any news-related updates on this case, please contact us here: amwfans.com/thread/1662/website-contact-form
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Post by HeadMarshal on Aug 4, 2013 13:43:10 GMT -5
I've read previous articles about Rep. Timothy Ryan's attempts to pressure Brazil into extraditing Hoerig. I must say that I'm finally pleased as to the direction in which this case is going.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 24, 2014 20:33:13 GMT -5
An update on Claudia Hoerig. Claudia Hoerig's Brazlian citizenship was apparently revoked because she once renounced it to become a U.S. citizen. It seems Hoerig is not in hiding since this article states she is now fighting in court to restore her Brazilian citizenship so she can avoid extradition to the United States. (It doesn't say if she was arrested or if she's hiding in plain sight while fighting in court but she seems to have been found regardless) Brazil has two separate high courts that rule on the matter, so it seems even with one ruling, we may have to wait for anther one. *sigh* At least it seems the wheels are moving a little faster now thanks in large part to Rep. Tim Ryan. www.wfmj.com/story/25010418/the-hoerig-case-7-years-later
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 18:00:14 GMT -5
Hey- alil insight and plz share ur thoughts - i am not anti immigrants but thus is my problem with having people that are not citizens come share our air and when things go wrong they run to their native lands and here we are not being able to do a thing because we cant pull her out so she can be held accountable for what she did if infact shes guilty. Why is it that they can come and get citizenship but dont have to live by our rules when she decides to go back after a bad experiencing are u guys with me?
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 29, 2014 18:54:37 GMT -5
I completely get where you're coming from. I don't like to discuss my political beliefs on here too much but while I'd say I have some progressive thoughts and I'm not anti-immigrants either, I do admit that there have been many times when watching AMW and hearing John Walsh say "he is a "insert country here" national and may have fled back there...." I did think to myself "wait.... then what was he doing here then?" There are immigrants who are hard working, get a job, go to school, etc...and are law-abiding and I have no problem with them remaining in the states but it seems way too easy for some to come here, commit a crime, and flee back with seemingly no repercussion. The case we just posted this week of Gonzalo Harrell-Gonzalez addresses this in regards to Mexican immigration. His victims' family has started a campaign to better secure the borders and enforce American immigration and employment laws. amwfans.com/thread/827/gonzalo-harrell-gonzalez-georgia-2000www.thedustininmansociety.org/info/who_was_dustin_inman.html
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 20:00:36 GMT -5
Wow ima take a look at that one but it deeply saddens me i hope one day these people get justice just like everyone else entitled to.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 17, 2014 19:50:42 GMT -5
Update from June 26th of this year- Hoerig's appeal of the revocation of her citizenship is STILL pending and she remains free. Keep in mind her citizenship was revoked LAST summer. And from what I understand Brazil has two Supreme Courts so even if she loses this case I think she might be able to appeal again (please don't quote me on that though) Am I the only one who feels like Brazil is purposely dragging this out? The Summer Olympics is in Rio in 2016 and I remember reading the Trumbull County Prosecutor talked about a boycott if the case was not resolved near that time. But what they can do is drag this out to where there wouldn't be time to. Enough Brazil, this woman allegedly committed cold-blooded premeditated murder. Do the right thing and send her back already! fox8.com/2014/06/26/fighting-for-justice-family-calling-for-murder-suspect-to-return-to-u-s/
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 21, 2014 14:12:43 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 28, 2015 19:27:14 GMT -5
wkbn.com/2015/03/27/ryan-outraged-over-brazilians-deportation-from-u-s/Rep. Tim Ryan is outraged now that a Brazilian fugitive caught in the United States has been extradited back to Brazil- despite Claudia Hoerig still remaining free. He feels no Brazilian caught here should be extradited until Hoerig is put into US Marshals custody and sent back here. I have mixed emotions on this. On one hand, something needs to be done to force Hoerig back here. On the other hand, I don't want to complicate cases of other American fugitives caught in Brazil who aren't citizens and are normally extradited. What I do know is SOMETHING has to be done. This isn't a Republican or Democratic issue. Although quite frankly I am surprised I have not heard much from members of congress who have served in the military- where are they- Republican or Democrat- to back Rep. Ryan? Look up and you'll see plenty of Senators, Congressmen, etc. from both parties who have served in the military and/or Karl Hoerig's branch- the Air Force. Why can't they be just as vocal as Ryan as they are on other military issues? Why aren't they making a media blast on news talk shows about this case? Why aren't they going on CNN, MSNBC, Fox News Channel etc. about this case? This woman alleged murdered a military veteran in cold blood. That should be enough for us to demand Brazil send her back here. I was hopeful for the first time in a long time when Hoerig's Brazilian citizenship was finally revoked nearly two years ago. Now, I am just as frustrated as I've ever been.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 20, 2016 20:05:13 GMT -5
The Brazilian Supreme Court has ruled AGAINST Claudia Hoerig, and she has been arrested!!!!! However, because of the fact I'm sure her lawyers will try last ditch efforts and the nature of how this has case gone has gone, I want to hold off on proclaiming Hoerig as a capture until she is officially back in Ohio. However- this is obviously the best news that has happened yet in the search for Hoerig. Let's hope it stays this way and she's finally sent back here- where she belongs- to stand trial. I am very encouraged now and hope this means justice is very near. Thank you Brazil for doing the right thing as far as this current court ruling. Let's hope Hoerig is sent back soon as well. www.wfmj.com/story/31776397/claudia-hoerig-arrested-in-brazil
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 26, 2016 18:22:52 GMT -5
Update, a U.S. State representative is urging a much speedier extradition of Claudia Hoerig if the U.S. is to cooperate in trying to get Olympic athlete Ryan Lochte back to Brazil to answer questions about his apparent lies about being robbed in Rio. According to Congressman Tim Ryan, despite Hoerig's arrest, defense lawyers are using procedural hurdles to slow down extradition. I still remain cautiously optimistic Hoerig will be back soon but this is getting ridiculous. Ryan Lochte is a jerk but you can't compare lying about being robbed to murdering your husband. www.wfmj.com/story/32851383/boccieri-to-brazil-no-hoerig-no-lochte
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Post by profiler24 on Jan 3, 2017 7:58:51 GMT -5
Update, a U.S. State representative is urging a much speedier extradition of Claudia Hoerig if the U.S. is to cooperate in trying to get Olympic athlete Ryan Lochte back to Brazil to answer questions about his apparent lies about being robbed in Rio. According to Congressman Tim Ryan, despite Hoerig's arrest, defense lawyers are using procedural hurdles to slow down extradition. I still remain cautiously optimistic Hoerig will be back soon but this is getting ridiculous. Ryan Lochte is a jerk but you can't compare lying about being robbed to murdering your husband. www.wfmj.com/story/32851383/boccieri-to-brazil-no-hoerig-no-lochteNo you can't but the brazilian justice system and the american justice system don't work in the same way
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Post by Scumhunter on Jan 3, 2017 8:41:20 GMT -5
Since this was thread was bumped up, I wanted to see if there were any updates. I looked again at the "Justice for Karl Hoerig" Facebook page and she remains in a Brazilian prison as of November 2016 as all her latest appeals have been denied. It keeps *looking* and *looking* like she's finally going to be sent back here since she's lost every single legal battle the past few years, but it seems somehow with the Brazilian courts she has more appeals than Bill Gates has dollars.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 30, 2017 3:57:02 GMT -5
Read on the "Justice for Karl Hoerig" Facebook group that the Brazilian Supreme Court ruled to send Hoerig back to the U.S. for trial but she and her lawyers can still appeal and it may take "several" more years before she is finally back here.
Interestingly enough and somewhat off-topic but Rep. Tim Ryan himself has had his profiled raised in the past year. He was a potential candidate to be Hillary Clinton's running mate in the 2016 Presidential campaign and has been discussed as a potential successor to Nancy Pelosi as House minority leader as many Democrats are not happy with her leadership after recent election losses.
While I try not to get political and generally am not a fan of either party, I would be very happy to see Tim Ryan become more prominent since I have been impressed with his efforts to get Hoerig back here.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 28, 2017 23:41:27 GMT -5
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