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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 7, 2021 9:14:12 GMT -5
I'll start one on Cardenas right now since I happen to be home today but for future reference A) any poster is allowed to start threads, just me and HeadMarshal usually just edit in any technical information but any poster can copy and paste start a thread etc.. B) Usually one of us gets to it eventually even if not right away, it won't always be posted this fast.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Feb 2, 2022 18:38:32 GMT -5
If the FBI wants to add Darin Christopher Starr to their Ten Most Wanted list, they don't have a vacancy for him. Some of those fugitives, such as Rafael "The Narco of Narcos" Caro-Quintero, Jose Rodolfo "El Gato" Villarreal-Hernandez, and Yulan Adonay "Porky" Archaga Carias, will probably require military operation style strategies to capture, but I'd have to know that the publicity from the Ten Most is still pressuring authorities in Mexico and Central America to both search for those three and either extradite them to the US or prosecute those fugitives on their own terms. I'm hesitant to withdraw Alexis Flores either, because the combination of his place on the Top Ten and a prisoner exchange involving Adonay could finally capture him. Other than those four, how much is publicity helping generate leads on the other 6 fugitives?
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 2, 2022 18:45:19 GMT -5
It is tricky because there are allegedly promising leads, but there were promising leads on Brian Laundrie who was dead the entire time as well.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 2, 2022 21:48:37 GMT -5
Well we did come out of 2021 with 0 captures, despite having an open slot for 9 months until Octaviano Juarez-Corro’s addition and bumping Robert Fisher off for Yulan Archaga Carias.
Usually after a year of not having any captures, it’s always followed by a year where either having the “big fishes” get caught or multiple fugitives start getting caught around the same time, and every 2 years since 2016, there always is a big name fugitive that gets caught.
2016 - Fidel Urbina
2018 - Eduardo Ravelo
2020 - Yaser Said
Apart from the Porky Carias/Alexis Flores situation, during 2021, the FBI showed that they were pulling the stops when it comes to publicizing their top 10 fugitives including Robert Fisher, who would be subsequently removed.
• Eugene Palmer’s granddaughter’s house was raided, and 2 police departments in Virginia and North Carolina were sharing information regarding Palmer.
• Articles during the 5th anniversary of Sandy Ly Le’s murder, seemed to indicate they have a few cities they believed Alejandro Castillo is in, which suggest that they are close.
• Arnoldo Jimenez’s case has been very quiet since In Pursuit, 2 years ago, which leads me to believe, that either they’re onto him, or given how quiet things have been, they’ll likely add age progressed images soon.
• Octaviano Juarez-Corro I feel is another one that will go down soon if investigators really developed new information on him.
• Jason Brown despite being the longest running and most famous current Top Ten fugitive, I feel is still very catchable today and I think the FBI Phoenix may want to go all out now that Robert Fisher was removed.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 4, 2022 2:11:18 GMT -5
Just wanted to point out the only addition I agreed with of the last four is the only one to get caught so far, but yeah let's call that coincidence...
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 4, 2022 8:03:43 GMT -5
Welp now that we have our first capture of 2022, the first in awhile, now Darin Starr can be added, but let’s see how long it takes to actually replace the said captured individual with Starr, if he manages to say on the run long enough.
I find it telling the FBI added Darin Starr to it’s website, and a Top Ten Fugitive gets caught within the same week.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 4, 2022 11:00:49 GMT -5
Just wanted to also mention while I've been somewhat critical of the top ten selections lately (aside from Juarez-Corro), although I'm sorry for the reasons and terrible crimes, I am very satisfied with the fugitives the FBI have been adding to the overall website so far in 2022 and I like the direction they're going so far.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 5, 2022 5:32:57 GMT -5
There is also a possibility Apollo Quiboloy could be added to the top ten list as the alleged leader of the KOJC church in the alleged labor/sex trafficking scheme, even though he has co-defendants with their own profiles on the FBI website. In that case, I'd just do what we did with Santiago Mederos and make one thread for him and new threads for his alleged co-conspirators- with links mentioning the related cases in each profile. Anyone can make a new thread for just him if that happens, and I'll deal with the rest later. I realize this is planning way far ahead but just in case.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 5, 2022 10:20:00 GMT -5
There is also a possibility Apollo Quiboloy could be added to the top ten list as the alleged leader of the KOJC church in the alleged labor/sex trafficking scheme, even though he has co-defendants with their own profiles on the FBI website. In that case, I'd just do what we did with Santiago Mederos and make one thread for him and new threads for his alleged co-conspirators- with links mentioning the related cases in each profile. Anyone can make a new thread for just him if that happens, and I'll deal with the rest later. I realize this is planning way far ahead but just in case. Apollo Quiboloy would be great for the top ten list IMO, though the FBI has been adding lots of fugitives with ties to the Philippines lately to its overall website and I’m wondering if the next addition will be from the Philippines as it would be an interesting change and the top ten list hasn’t captured anyone in the Philippines yet. At the moment I do see Quiboloy as a strongest contender for the list as he is believed to be overseas and has a network behind him allowing him to escape, along with the fact that it feels a lot like Warren Jeffs.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 7, 2022 16:44:20 GMT -5
I know lately we’ve all been celebrating the capture of Octaviano Juarez-Corro, as it shows that what wasn’t accomplished for 12 years as a local news fugitive, 3 years on the FBI Murder’s section was actually accomplished in only 5 months as a Top Ten Fugitive and thanks to a public tip.
Here are a few things I’m curious and would like everyone’s take/prediction on:
• who and when will the next current top ten fugitive go down
• how long will the selection for a new top ten fugitive take, as we still have fresh in our memories the 1 year and 2 week it took to replace Yaser Said with the guy that’s currently in custody
Slightly off topic, but during the previous years that had no captures (2005, 2010, 2015, and 2021), while the 3 former years had full lists from beginning to end, 2021 will always be weird and unique to me as that was the one year we didn’t have any captures despite having an slot open for the first 9 months of that year.
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Post by Scumhunter on Feb 7, 2022 17:27:06 GMT -5
Somewhat off-topic but it makes me feel better about In Pursuit only having one sort of direct capture last year, as it seems it was a rough year in general for fugitive hunting overall and not just the show. The new year overall looks off to a better start already so far.
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Post by Maddog on Feb 7, 2022 20:52:03 GMT -5
I will defer to my list from several months ago with a fugitive substituted into Juarez-Corro’s spot:
1) Juan Laureano-Arvizu (Suspected in numerous homicides, strong threat to public); 2) Dennis St. John Rodriguez (Suspected in numerous homicides, strong threat to public); 3) William Willingham - New photo available, in 1999, he was charged with Capital Rape, which was then (as far as I know) punishable by the death penalty in Mississippi. Extraordinarily high level of violence in this case to include the brandishing of a knife. 4) Kevin Lamont Carter (Violent felon); 5) Joe Matthew Constance (Violent felon); 6) Bob Tang (Violent crime, has skipped town internationally); 7) Trung Duc Lu (Violent crimes); 8) Jeffrey Dean McDaniel (EXTRAORDINARILY disturbing sex crimes, may have fled the U.S.); 9) Bruce Sawhill (Prior sex crime convictions); 10) Elby Hars (Prior sex crime convictions); 11) Dennis Cunningham (Convicted felon; murdered victim during a robbery); 12) Michael Pratt (Extensive sex crimes, could be anywhere in the world).
My cold case fugitives:
1) John Gentry - I just have a feeling on this. The reason being, he is arguably a threat to a great deal of the public because he killed both a boyfriend and girlfriend in very brutal ways. Recent information received by the USMS indicates he is still alive; 2) Stanley Obas - Not as confident on this, but it was a brutal case nonetheless. They did have a recent tip in NYC a few years ago; 3) Alvin Scott - The FBI in Atlanta has revealed they have attempted to get him added to the list; 4) Edgardo Luis Perez - Poses a strong threat to the public; 5) Warren Stern - Brutal and random homicide, believed to have fled the United States; 6) Michel Barrera - Wanted for questioning in a homicide in Florida.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 7, 2022 22:08:30 GMT -5
To Scumhunter: I’m not sure what it is about 2022, unless everyone as a whole is learning to live with this virus 2 years later, and everyone is continuing life like in pre Covid times, which is why I think things started to pick up with regards to captures. This also got me thinking about the captures that occurred in the last 4 years, because I noticed Octaviano Juarez-Corro is the first fugitive in awhile that got taken down via public tip, the last person to be located via a public tip was Greg Carlson, but he was killed, so instead the last actual capture from public tips was Jesus Munguia, as Lamont Stephenson was caught because his luck ran out, Santiago Mederos and Yaser Said were both captured due to investigation which explains why both were captured during a year of intense lockdowns.
To Maddog: That’s a good list of contenders for the top ten list, but I really don’t have a list of set candidates, rather a set criterias, as I want the FBI to add a non Hispanic fugitive, with a crime where someone under 18 is the victim whether that be a CAC or murder case, because currently Alexis Flores is the only child killer on the list, following the removal of Robert Fisher and the capture of Yaser Said. You also have the multiple murders fugitives that would be great additions from time to time, and with the FBI having one currently on their website, I would sorta appreciate it if the FBI went back to that.
If I’m being completely honest, at the moment I have Michael Pratt, Apollo Quiboloy, William Willingham, Melchor Datu, Rosemary Godbolt Molder, and Hung Tien Pham as my personal contenders for the list based on my current personal criteria.
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Post by Maddog on Feb 7, 2022 22:17:12 GMT -5
To Scumhunter: I’m not sure what it is about 2022, unless everyone as a whole is learning to live with this virus 2 years later, and everyone is continuing life like in pre Covid times, which is why I think things started to pick up with regards to captures. This also got me thinking about the captures that occurred in the last 4 years, because I noticed Octaviano Juarez-Corro is the first fugitive in awhile that got taken down via public tip, the last person to be located via a public tip was Greg Carlson, but he was killed, so instead the last actual capture from public tips was Jesus Munguia, as Lamont Stephenson was caught because his luck ran out, Santiago Mederos and Yaser Said were both captured due to investigation which explains why both were captured during a year of intense lockdowns. To Maddog: That’s a good list of contenders for the top ten list, but I really don’t have a list of set candidates, rather a set criterias, as I want the FBI to add a non Hispanic fugitive, with a crime where someone under 18 is the victim whether that be a CAC or murder case, because currently Alexis Flores is the only child killer on the list, following the removal of Robert Fisher and the capture of Yaser Said. You also have the multiple murders fugitives that would be great additions from time to time, and with the FBI having one currently on their website, I would sorta appreciate it if the FBI went back to that. If I’m being completely honest, at the moment I have Michael Pratt, Apollo Quiboloy, William Willingham, Melchor Datu, Rosemary Godbolt Molder, and Hung Tien Pham as my personal contenders for the list based on my current personal criteria. I will say this: there really isn’t a “front-runner.” Example: When I saw Antwan Mims’ wanted poster, my reaction was, “Okay, this guy is going on the list.” There really isn’t anyone else like that currently on the FBI website (please feel free to correct me if anyone disagrees). I also agree with you on Quiboloy. Those are very disturbing crimes he’s alleged to have committed.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Feb 7, 2022 22:28:43 GMT -5
To Scumhunter: I’m not sure what it is about 2022, unless everyone as a whole is learning to live with this virus 2 years later, and everyone is continuing life like in pre Covid times, which is why I think things started to pick up with regards to captures. This also got me thinking about the captures that occurred in the last 4 years, because I noticed Octaviano Juarez-Corro is the first fugitive in awhile that got taken down via public tip, the last person to be located via a public tip was Greg Carlson, but he was killed, so instead the last actual capture from public tips was Jesus Munguia, as Lamont Stephenson was caught because his luck ran out, Santiago Mederos and Yaser Said were both captured due to investigation which explains why both were captured during a year of intense lockdowns. To Maddog: That’s a good list of contenders for the top ten list, but I really don’t have a list of set candidates, rather a set criterias, as I want the FBI to add a non Hispanic fugitive, with a crime where someone under 18 is the victim whether that be a CAC or murder case, because currently Alexis Flores is the only child killer on the list, following the removal of Robert Fisher and the capture of Yaser Said. You also have the multiple murders fugitives that would be great additions from time to time, and with the FBI having one currently on their website, I would sorta appreciate it if the FBI went back to that. If I’m being completely honest, at the moment I have Michael Pratt, Apollo Quiboloy, William Willingham, Melchor Datu, Rosemary Godbolt Molder, and Hung Tien Pham as my personal contenders for the list based on my current personal criteria. I will say this: there really isn’t a “front-runner.” Example: When I saw Antwan Mims’ wanted poster, my reaction was, “Okay, this guy is going on the list.” There really isn’t anyone else like that currently on the FBI website (please feel free to correct me if anyone disagrees). I also agree with you on Quiboloy. Those are very disturbing crimes he’s alleged to have committed. I feel this way currently with Hung Tien Pham, as it’s similar to former FBI Top Tenner, Wai-Chiu “Tony” Ng (the guy who replaced Katherine Ann Power) in the 1980s for murdering 13 in Seattle’s Chinatown. Hung Tien Pham is pretty well publicized in the media, and that’s what the list needs after catching Yaser Said and removal of Robert Fisher in recent years.
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