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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 8, 2020 0:45:42 GMT -5
Yeah that's it. But yeah I think a 2-year rule unless it gets like earlier in the decade where he had way too many guys on the run for 10 years or longer is in my opinion the way to go.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 20, 2020 22:21:31 GMT -5
FBI Top Ten (non Violent Crimes/Murders section candidates
CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN:
* Jerold Jerry Dunning
* Gregory Robert Whitehead
ADDITIONAL VIOLENT CRIMES
* Jean Leonard Faure
* Izmir Ali Koch
* Guangyao Yang & Peicheng Shen
* Mauro Valenzuela-Reyes
CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE INVESTIGATIONS
* Luis Mendez
* Lisbio Couto (Removed in 2013, but Arnoldo Jimenez was once removed from FBI site only to land on Ten Most Wanted)
HUMAN TRAFFICKING
* Alfonso Diaz-Juarez
* Wei Li Pang and Shu Gang Li
Now I know I’ve included Chinese nationals on my list and it’s because the deck is already stacked against them in China as the individuals mentioned may have a significant status in the U.S. or a third country thus making a capture easy easy in China and obviously a long and exhausting extradition process.
Overall what does everyone think about my list?
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 20, 2020 22:46:08 GMT -5
Imo, the most realistic one would be Luis Mendez because of his crime being related to Eduardo Ravelo.
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Post by Maddog on Mar 27, 2020 22:10:44 GMT -5
I would like to add Luis Mendez to the list I posted not long ago. Just noticed his addition to the site not long ago.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Apr 29, 2020 17:06:16 GMT -5
Right now driving me crazy is the lack of captures, but this time its a good lack of captures because the fbi picked genuinely good cases and it’s not a crapshoot as it was say 5 years ago when Mogilevich, Godwin, and Gerena were on it.
The only 2 FBI Top Ten Contenders I currently have on my personal list are Luis Mendez and Bob Tang, both of whom committed very heinous crimes.
I’m just hoping one of these guys falls, im hoping the recent lead in Ohio does turn out to be Brown so someone can be listed as captured, or one of the In Pursuit aired fugitives finally get caught. In a few weeks it’ll be 1 year since Arnoldo Jimenez was added and in a month it’ll be 1 year since Eugene Palmer was added.
I know previously we did talk about the 2 year rule, but I think one of these guys has to get caught only because it’s the nature of the beast.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Apr 29, 2020 18:24:55 GMT -5
Right now driving me crazy is the lack of captures, but this time its a good lack of captures because the fbi picked genuinely good cases and it’s not a crapshoot as it was say 5 years ago when Mogilevich, Godwin, and Gerena were on it. The only 2 FBI Top Ten Contenders I currently have on my personal list are Luis Mendez and Bob Tang, both of whom committed very heinous crimes. I’m just hoping one of these guys falls, im hoping the recent lead in Ohio does turn out to be Brown so someone can be listed as captured, or one of the In Pursuit aired fugitives finally get caught. In a few weeks it’ll be 1 year since Arnoldo Jimenez was added and in a month it’ll be 1 year since Eugene Palmer was added. I know previously we did talk about the 2 year rule, but I think one of these guys has to get caught only because it’s the nature of the beast. Well, it took from the autumn of '009 to the spring of '012 between when they added Sequence Numbers 494 and 495, with perfect stagnancy on the list in '010 and a few captures with no new additions in '011. I'm afraid this might last even longer than that, barring the FBI pulling some fugitives from the list where publicity isn't helping anymore.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 29, 2020 21:09:53 GMT -5
I'm frustarted by the lack of captures too but I still think being patient- especially considering we're currently in a pandemic- is the best way to go. If the list goes two years without a capture, then I think it's time to start getting upset.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 29, 2020 21:15:33 GMT -5
Also I've mentioned this before but one thing I keep trying to stress in fugitive manhunts- is we're spoiled by the internet era- where (until this year at least) anything we want takes 5 seconds to get. Fugitives are people who don't want to be caught- no matter how much technology advances. It annoys me when I see internet comments declaring a fugitive hide-and-seek champion after successfully hiding out for like a month- a month isn't that long in the grand scheme of things. Guys/girls are put on the FBI/U.S. Marshals list and In Pursuit because they're hard to catch- but most of them eventually get caught- it's just they aren't caught in the average time it takes to finish a cup of coffee which is why it seems like these manhunts are longer than they really are (obviously some glaring exceptions but Fisher especially and in some way Jason Brown lucked out in going on the run before the explosion of social media-internet era).
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Post by Maddog on May 6, 2020 21:06:25 GMT -5
I am adding Trung Duc Lu and Bob Tang as contenders to the list to my list of possible contenders from a while back.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 8, 2020 13:07:50 GMT -5
I am adding Trung Duc Lu and Bob Tang as contenders to the list to my list of possible contenders from a while back. I currently have Luis Mendez, Bob Tang and Trung Duc Lu as my potential FBI Top Ten Candidates as well, both Luis Mendez and Trung Duc Lu are violent gang members whose cases have either been featured previously on both the FBI and USMS most wanted lists or are in countries where the list is known to have gotten individuals back from. Bob Tang is interesting because the FBI hasn’t captured anyone in Cambodia yet despite not having an extradition treaty with them which reminds me of Woravit “Kim” Mektrakarn, in the sense that powerful people in Cambodia know Tang and won’t give him up.
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Post by Maddog on May 9, 2020 14:02:19 GMT -5
I am adding Trung Duc Lu and Bob Tang as contenders to the list to my list of possible contenders from a while back. I currently have Luis Mendez, Bob Tang and Trung Duc Lu as my potential FBI Top Ten Candidates as well, both Luis Mendez and Trung Duc Lu are violent gang members whose cases have either been featured previously on both the FBI and USMS most wanted lists or are in countries where the list is known to have gotten individuals back from. Bob Tang is interesting because the FBI hasn’t captured anyone in Cambodia yet despite not having an extradition treaty with them which reminds me of Woravit “Kim” Mektrakarn, in the sense that powerful people in Cambodia know Tang and won’t give him up. I wouldn’t be surprised if Lu gets added. The People’s Republic of Vietnam was very helpful in arresting Thanh Nguyen back in the 90s.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 17, 2020 22:51:14 GMT -5
The 2010 US Consulate Murders in Juarez Mexico has finally been captured its last individual and justice can now be served.
With that said Bob Tang And Trung Duc Lu remain as my 2 sole Ten Most Wanted candidates.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 19, 2020 0:32:03 GMT -5
The 2010 US Consulate Murders in Juarez Mexico has finally been captured its last individual and justice can now be served. With that said Bob Tang And Trung Duc Lu remain as my 2 sole Ten Most Wanted candidates. I also hate to say it but Tang and Lu as their crimes are heinous which makes them deserving as well but they also are very good candidates because they're not black or Hispanic candidates which would give the list more variety (I know I sound like a broken record- but the list is not necessarily the most wanted- but a publicity tool the FBI uses that they feel would be most useful for their overall most wanted). The other guy I feel is a top candidate if the list ever gets a capture is Jamaad Murphy, who allegedly murdered someone outside a bar and had already been acquitted in the murder of the teenager. You can't use the acquittal against him- hence why the FBI doesn't mention it- but it signifies the danger that he allegedly got away with one murder already when he allegedly committed another one.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 21, 2020 23:15:29 GMT -5
The question I come tend to come across in my head, is will the FBI add another drug trafficker to the Ten Most Wanted List and if so who?
Now unfortunately, because Nemesio “El Mencho” Oseguera Cervantes is getting the same attention as El Chapo once got he is out of the running IMO.
The only 2 I would think have a decent shot, are
Érick Valencia Salazar, former associate of El Mencho, who has since formed a new cartel and is aligned with the Sinaloa Cartel.
Nicolas Maduro, president of Venezuela who was charged with Narcoterrorism and drug trafficking, his cronies could also be contenders in the running if Maduro won’t be added.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 21, 2020 23:29:06 GMT -5
Tbh while I understand Caro-Quintero's addition I feel drug traffickers are for the most part a matter of international intelligence and cooperation, and not the best use of a list which is meant to be for the most part the most likely to be caught off public tips. Not to make a joke out of it, but they didn't capture El Chapo because a 52-year-old white woman from Kentucky vacationing at the Hard Rock Cancun recognized him as a bartender lol.
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