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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on May 29, 2020 0:03:36 GMT -5
I don't know about community policing which would still have issues but I do feel they need to do at least a mandatory retraining across the country. I agree with everything else though. The only thing that could be done right now, is mandatory retraining like you mentioned and a 3 strikes law for cops, and also I would propose a checks and balance or an independent watchdog for police departments, to prevent problems like racial profiling, corruption, misconduct.... etc. The issue with demilitarizing cops means demilitarizing the public and it becomes a big political discussion about gun control which goes down a big rabbit hole. |
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Post by Scumhunter on May 29, 2020 0:56:25 GMT -5
And Trump just tweeted that the protestors are THUGS (he really wanted to say the n-word) and threatened to send the national guard "when the looting starts the shooting starts". This is truly horrifying and in my opinion now supplants "there are good people on both sides" as the worst thing he ever said. If Obama or Hillary said this, they'd be impeached tomorrow.
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Post by Scumhunter on May 29, 2020 17:48:09 GMT -5
Derek Chauvin has been charged with 3re degree murder and manslaughter which is a start but the three officers who initially started to help him and then stood around and do nothing as George Floyd was yelling he can't breathe should be charged also.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 1, 2020 0:30:03 GMT -5
I don't know about community policing which would still have issues but I do feel they need to do at least a mandatory retraining across the country. I agree with everything else though. The only thing that could be done right now, is mandatory retraining like you mentioned and a 3 strikes law for cops, and also I would propose a checks and balance or an independent watchdog for police departments, to prevent problems like racial profiling, corruption, misconduct.... etc. The issue with demilitarizing cops means demilitarizing the public and it becomes a big political discussion about gun control which goes down a big rabbit hole. Just wanted to say I misunderstood what you meant about community policing. I was talking to my dad and he said back in the day that's what they basically had was community policing they lived in the neighborhood had the same shifts etc... There was a trust because the same guy you saw in plain clothes grocery shopping was also the same guy you'd see in uniform. A lot of these issues is we're putting cops in communities they don't understand. Working is not the same as living there. So now that I get it I don't disagree as much. Of course, things are deteriorating right now instead of getting better as Trump is now #bunkerboy for the moment. What a way to start the decade... |
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Jun 1, 2020 9:54:16 GMT -5
The only thing that could be done right now, is mandatory retraining like you mentioned and a 3 strikes law for cops, and also I would propose a checks and balance or an independent watchdog for police departments, to prevent problems like racial profiling, corruption, misconduct.... etc. The issue with demilitarizing cops means demilitarizing the public and it becomes a big political discussion about gun control which goes down a big rabbit hole. Just wanted to say I misunderstood what you meant about community policing. I was talking to my dad and he said back in the day that's what they basically had was community policing they lived in the neighborhood had the same shifts etc... There was a trust because the same guy you saw in plain clothes grocery shopping was also the same guy you'd see in uniform. A lot of these issues is we're putting cops in communities they don't understand. Working is not the same as living there. So now that I get it I don't disagree as much. Of course, things are deteriorating right now instead of getting better as Trump is now #bunkerboy for the moment. What a way to start the decade... You know when they discuss gun control, they tend to bring up a gun buy back program? I was thinking police departments should do that with their military equipment they may have acquired. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 1, 2020 10:00:49 GMT -5
I don't want to be completely negative and want to say one thing that is inspiring is the police were actually kneeling and/or marching with the protestors in some parts of the country.
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Post by Scumhunter on Jun 3, 2020 16:38:38 GMT -5
Derek Chauvin's murder charges have been upgraded to second degree murder while the officers who also just watched have also been charged, so we have some positive updates right now.
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Post by ninja108 on Jul 4, 2020 0:06:45 GMT -5
Derek Chauvin's murder charges have been upgraded to second degree murder while the officers who also just watched have also been charged, so we have some positive updates right now. I could see Chauvin being convicted but as for the other three..I see a hard time how they'll be convicted of anything. Same with the officers in the Rayshard Brooks case in GA. First degree murder isn't going to happen and the DA knows it. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Jul 4, 2020 0:16:31 GMT -5
I guess we'll see.
But as I said before the frustrating thing is debates have been turned into two sides only and us vs. them.
There are good cops. But the system itself is in desperate need of retooling.
Yes, there are some extremists but when you call out bad cops it doesn't mean you think all cops are bad, it means those specific cops are bad and right now the justice system does not hold cops who break the law accountable the same way they hold citizens and especially minorities.
You can support the police while speaking out against police brutality, the two sides don't have to be mutually exclusive.
No one wants to get rid of cops, but rather take some duties away they shouldn't have to be handling so they can focus on their highest priorities instead.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 27, 2020 19:19:23 GMT -5
And now we have the Jacob Blake Kenosha shooting- although he survived- was shot in the back 7 times with three children in the car he was in front of- this as a result temporarily cancelled the NBA playoffs with other sports leagues.
I just wanted to acknowledge the site is aware of this latest controversy- and all I can express is continued sadness frustration and throwing my hands up in the air.
I'm not naive. I'm not going to pretend any of the nation's current problems- especially with race relations- will go away anytime in the near future- but I long for the day where it least less of an issue and we see progress rather than us somehow going backwards in civil rights relations.
I do hope where one day where we at least we can say things aren't perfect but they are much better. Right now it's tough.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 15, 2020 21:45:26 GMT -5
What’s everyone’s opinion on Operation Legend? It was apparently started by the President and the DOJ in the wake of the George Floyd Protests and I’ve seen it appear on the FBI website under a new tab in recent months.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 15, 2020 23:24:48 GMT -5
I'm going to be honest- I was all for it thinking it was just a response to violent crimes in cities with large minority populations to begin with- I guess I have to read up on it- but I guess I'm still for if it does a good thing and helps solve crimes involving minority victims even if I feel the people behind it (not the FBI themselves) had ulterior motives. In other words, perhaps William Barr is just doing this to rub it in the face of the George Floyd protestors- but I still won't complain if it leads to arrests if that makes sense. The problem is it would be nice if both police brutality and minority murders get solved instead of trying to say only one issue we should care about.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Sept 15, 2020 23:59:23 GMT -5
I'm going to be honest- I was all for it thinking it was just a response to violent crimes in cities with large minority populations to begin with- I guess I have to read up on it- but I guess I'm still for if it does a good thing and helps solve crimes involving minority victims even if I feel the people behind it (not the FBI themselves) had ulterior motives. In other words, perhaps William Barr is just doing this to rub it in the face of the George Floyd protestors- but I still won't complain if it leads to arrests if that makes sense. The problem is it would be nice if both police brutality and minority murders get solved instead of trying to say only one issue we should care about. I'm all for it leading to quicker resolutions in the murders of non-white children who don't live in affluent suburbs, but I can see how Bill Barr might be fueling police union and police brutality apologetics, it could fuel the Intellectual Dark Web's cultists in blaming it all on the victims of various types of inequality for all the violence and other social problems in the United States, it could fuel the kind of authoritarian fervor that makes people tick who think Tronald Dump Sr is an emissary of God, and it could feed into Andy Ngo's, Gavin McInnes', and Joey Gibson's narratives about the conflict between white nationalists vs economic progressives. |
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