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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 18, 2019 17:59:45 GMT -5
Turns out we were right to be confused by articles saying Officer Ling passed away as rumors of his death turned out to be greatly exaggerated. Officer Ling is actually ALIVE. Meanwhile, KUWAN BURGESS is still not mentioned. So bad enough he got neglected, but he got neglected for a guy that isn't even dead. Also for the record, I know Vincent Ling was at least paralyzed in 1999 so my thoughts still go out to him as well, as he has had pain and suffering for years even though he thankfully survived. nypost.com/2019/03/18/nypd-cop-killed-by-fugitive-is-actually-alive/ |
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Post by fatgirl94 on Mar 19, 2019 20:23:55 GMT -5
I saw the episode that was aired back in 2012 about the murder of Kuwuan Burgess committed by Lester Pearson. I was the fiance of Kuwuan Burgess during that time we had been together for 4 yrs and the story that was aired it didn't exactly happened the way it was presented. I'm so happy that Lester has been caught and in custody. Now Kuwuan's soul can finally R.I.P. I will say this tho'...the events that were aired and showed what took place on AMW is totally different from what actually happened. It didn't happen during the day time it happened at night and Lester didn't walk up and shoot him in broad daylight on the stairs...
My biggest fear is these charges aren't going to stick. Vincent is very much alive and where does that leave things. And what was the evidence that was founded in 2009 for them to open Kuwuan's case back up? I'm praying that this bastard get what he deserves because he took away my future. I had to start all over and it hasn't been easy and still isn't. I miss Kuwuan everyday...
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 19, 2019 21:43:35 GMT -5
Hello fatgirl94, welcome to the forum, although I'm sorry for the circumstances that brought you here. I'm also very sorry for the seeming lack of attention by the local and national media (aside from AMW) on Kuwuan's case. (I apologize as apparently even AMW misspelled his name and as result of going by their archives apparently I did too).
We are unfortunately only an unofficial fan page for America's Most Wanted (and John Walsh's shows in general) so I wish we had more information ourselves. As for the AMW airing not being accurate, unfortunately, while not wanting to outright criticize my favorite show, he was aired on the final and only season on the Lifetime channel, which seemed to take liberties with some of the stories that season. (In one case, they claimed a female fugitive murdered another girl over a Facebook-feud over a boy or something sort of mundane argument and the girl was an innocent bystander to death. It turned out while the girl was an innocent bystander it was really a drug turf war that was the motive). I don't know what went on like if the Lifetime channel edited stuff or told them to air stories in a certain way or they just didn't research well enough or whatever that season.
While the airing itself I don't remember as well, the archive states a warrant was issued in 2009, which is why I am extremely confused as to why not one article post-Pearson's capture mentions that murder warrant.
Pearson also apparently was supposed to be re-tried for attempted murder according to that article.
As far as Kuwuan is concerned, I guess the only thing I can think of is to try to contact the Bronx DA's office and/or any detectives you remembered working his case.
I'm hoping if at the very least Pearson can be brought to justice for the attempted murder of Vincent Ling in the Bronx and the battery on law enforcement charges in Louisiana it would be enough in years for him to be in jail for a long time for no one to worry about him for a while.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 19, 2019 21:58:42 GMT -5
P.S. I apologize as after somewhat critiquing my favorite show, I re-read the archive to see if I can say anything additional to help and I apparently misread the trial as being for the attempted murder of Officer Ling and apparently the 2000 trial was for the murder of your fiance Kuwuan (please correct me if I'm mistaken, but if so I am even more sorry as it's frustrating enough to not get justice, but especially to actually have a trial hoping to and not get it as well).
It says several prosecution witnesses backed out. I'm hoping the 2009 evidence they mention can help. And I'm also hoping that now it's been 20 years, Pearson is no longer as intimidating to those potential witnesses (no longer the presence he supposedly was in the Bronx in the 1990's) and/or they are older and wiser enough to want to help and do the right thing.
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Post by fatgirl94 on Mar 24, 2019 7:02:51 GMT -5
Hi Scumhunter sorry for the late response. I'm not getting my notifications/alerts for this thread so I just check back to see if I have any. Yes you're right the trial in 2000 was for my fiance Kuwuan Burgess which ended in a hung jury for whatever reason. However I'm curious to find out what add'l evidence was found in 2009. The family was never contacted in reference to that or the fact that Lester wasn't in custody which I feel is wrong because I testified in that trial and should've been told. I just wanted to clarify a few things. Vincent Ling is African Ameican and Kuwuan wasn't a marijuana trafficker. The night that Lester killed Kuwuan he was home waiting for me to get off from work so that he could pick me up because I got off late which never happened because Lester called the house and told Kuwuan to meet him some where. There's so much more to the story that hasn't been told. This was all premeditated. Lester planned to kill Kuwuan. And I don't get why the family wasn't contacted first to let us all know that this was being aired...I found this all out via the internet and had to warn the family. Kuwuan has a twin brother and 5 other brothers and his mother that I had to warn...
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 24, 2019 7:40:25 GMT -5
Hi again,
Once again I'm sorry for any misinformation as a result of relying on the AMW archive and/or airing and it's good we have a direct source now to clarify any of their inaccuracies.
I'm in absolute shock AMW never contacted you or anyone in the family about the airing. Usually it's the relatives of the fugitive that they understandably wouldn't bother to contact, not of the victims.
Even more shocking to me is you not being told Pearson was not in custody... since it potentially put your safety at risk and I find that completely irresponsible.
I wish I had more answers for you. All I can give is advice. But you do deserve clarification and it would be nice to know if Lester is still facing that retrial.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 24, 2019 7:42:48 GMT -5
P.S. If you have the tapatalk app on your phone, you can search our forum and there's a way to get notifications that way.
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Post by fatgirl94 on Mar 24, 2019 23:36:36 GMT -5
Thank you so much. That entire airing was fabricated. I'm going to be reaching out to the Bronx DA and the precinct the 49 precinct that handled the case at the time. Detective Dodd was the one handling the case at the time. I'm pretty sure he may have retired by now. That was almost 22 yrs ago....
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 25, 2019 0:14:28 GMT -5
Thanks, I loved AMW and it was my favorite show but I will admit they're not or rather were not perfect. (the newer shows of John Walsh's give longer segments on the fugitives or stories in general and are much more detailed and honest, not entirely defending them but I think another thing is because they aired so many cases AMW got lazy in getting the details right, while now they take their time and do good research. The new production company of these fugitive shows I've actually seen correct some inconsistencies I remember from AMW).
I wish you luck in reaching out to the appropriate venues though.
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Post by fatgirl94 on Sept 16, 2020 0:56:24 GMT -5
They call him Vincent Ling in the article. Do we know his name. I couldn't find any articles talking about his death either way but if what the article says is true,he will facing two murder trials instead of one. As to your second point,sad to say but I've seen that happen a lot in cases where there are multiple victims. As you said,law enforcement is high profile and rightfully so but that doesn't mean other victims should just get a single sentence written about them. And finally to your last point,I agree 100%. His family will still have the option to visit him in prison,the families of the two people he killed won't This might come off as far removed from all things emotional, but... the fact that he killed 2 people, no matter how different his victims' walks of life were, would prove he was particularly dangerous, even for a violent fugitive, that his reign of terror wouldn't stop with him on the run, and that he was easily dangerous enough to claim a 3rd victim if given the chance. What I want to know is, why does the repeat-murderer element fall by the wayside as the elephant in the room in a case like this? In regards to Ninja108: Sorry it's actually Vincent Ling according to the AMW archives. My mistake. To 912th, the murder of a police officer is usually more headlining grabbing than someone like Burgess, who was not the most pristine person in life based on what the AMW archive says (and yes I didn't want to go there, but the elephant in the room- a young African-American male, although I don't know what race Officer Ling was, just because the last name sounds of Asian descent doesn't mean he was). It also doesn't excuse Burgess' murder and no one has the right to take another human being life's except in life defense. Officer Ling had a family and dedicated his life for good and it is not his fault the media highlighted his case more than Burgess. Burgess also had a family and 22-years-old it was a relatively young enough age to turn his life around. Not excusing it, but additionally, in the grand scheme of things, Burgess being a marijuana trafficker was on the low-end of the criminal totem pole. My thoughts are still with both families of Ling and Burgess even if they may have been from different walks of life, who will now possibly have to suffer through living all their pain again in a trial unless prosecutors are lucky enough to get a guilty plea(s) out of Pearson. This the fiance of Kuwuan Burgess as I mentioned before that storyline on AMW was all a lie that's not what happened. Kuwuan was not a Marijuana trafficker and he was 20 yrs old when Lester killed him... |
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Post by fatgirl94 on Sept 16, 2020 0:59:23 GMT -5
P.S. I apologize as after somewhat critiquing my favorite show, I re-read the archive to see if I can say anything additional to help and I apparently misread the trial as being for the attempted murder of Officer Ling and apparently the 2000 trial was for the murder of your fiance Kuwuan (please correct me if I'm mistaken, but if so I am even more sorry as it's frustrating enough to not get justice, but especially to actually have a trial hoping to and not get it as well). It says several prosecution witnesses backed out. I'm hoping the 2009 evidence they mention can help. And I'm also hoping that now it's been 20 years, Pearson is no longer as intimidating to those potential witnesses (no longer the presence he supposedly was in the Bronx in the 1990's) and/or they are older and wiser enough to want to help and do the right thing. Finally Lester is in NY and being charged with Kuwuan's murder ππΎππΎππΎ |
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 16, 2020 1:02:01 GMT -5
P.S. I apologize as after somewhat critiquing my favorite show, I re-read the archive to see if I can say anything additional to help and I apparently misread the trial as being for the attempted murder of Officer Ling and apparently the 2000 trial was for the murder of your fiance Kuwuan (please correct me if I'm mistaken, but if so I am even more sorry as it's frustrating enough to not get justice, but especially to actually have a trial hoping to and not get it as well). It says several prosecution witnesses backed out. I'm hoping the 2009 evidence they mention can help. And I'm also hoping that now it's been 20 years, Pearson is no longer as intimidating to those potential witnesses (no longer the presence he supposedly was in the Bronx in the 1990's) and/or they are older and wiser enough to want to help and do the right thing. Finally Lester is in NY and being charged with Kuwuan's murder ππΎππΎππΎ Glad to hear. May justice hopefully finally be served soon! |
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Post by fatgirl94 on Sept 16, 2020 1:03:22 GMT -5
Finally Lester is in NY and being charged with Kuwuan's murder ππΎππΎππΎ Glad to hear. May justice hopefully finally be served soon! Thanks I keep you posted π |
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 16, 2020 1:05:17 GMT -5
This might come off as far removed from all things emotional, but... the fact that he killed 2 people, no matter how different his victims' walks of life were, would prove he was particularly dangerous, even for a violent fugitive, that his reign of terror wouldn't stop with him on the run, and that he was easily dangerous enough to claim a 3rd victim if given the chance. What I want to know is, why does the repeat-murderer element fall by the wayside as the elephant in the room in a case like this? In regards to Ninja108: Sorry it's actually Vincent Ling according to the AMW archives. My mistake. To 912th, the murder of a police officer is usually more headlining grabbing than someone like Burgess, who was not the most pristine person in life based on what the AMW archive says (and yes I didn't want to go there, but the elephant in the room- a young African-American male, although I don't know what race Officer Ling was, just because the last name sounds of Asian descent doesn't mean he was). It also doesn't excuse Burgess' murder and no one has the right to take another human being life's except in life defense. Officer Ling had a family and dedicated his life for good and it is not his fault the media highlighted his case more than Burgess. Burgess also had a family and 22-years-old it was a relatively young enough age to turn his life around. Not excusing it, but additionally, in the grand scheme of things, Burgess being a marijuana trafficker was on the low-end of the criminal totem pole. My thoughts are still with both families of Ling and Burgess even if they may have been from different walks of life, who will now possibly have to suffer through living all their pain again in a trial unless prosecutors are lucky enough to get a guilty plea(s) out of Pearson. This the fiance of Kuwuan Burgess as I mentioned before that storyline on AMW was all a lie that's not what happened. Kuwuan was not a Marijuana trafficker and he was 20 yrs old when Lester killed him... I believe I corrected myself afterwards but before you came on here to clarify that was a previous comment based on what AMW said. Even when they claimed he was a Marijuana trafficker, it was still no excuse. That he wasn't and was simply an innocent victi makes this an even more tragic case. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 16, 2020 1:06:11 GMT -5
But once again hopefully justice comes soon enough!
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