Post by Scumhunter on Aug 14, 2016 19:36:17 GMT -5
Whoa. The update on Ponce says after The Hunt episode aired, the renewed attention to the case. actually generated a tip that Ponce could be in Spain, and as a result the Marshals requested an Interpol international alert for Ponce. So looks like this may have been direct after all! What do you guys think, if it wasn't for The Hunt publicity, that chance encounter may have never revealed Ponce was a wanted man. But they said renewed attention to the case generated not a tip, didn't say it was a Hunt tip. Can we count this is as direct now? I'm torn now. LOL.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Aug 14, 2016 19:47:54 GMT -5
You could make the argument that there were AMW direct captures based off factors not relating to a direct tip. As you mentioned, without the tip that Christopher Ponce was in Spain, there would have been no Interpol red notice which would not have revealed him after his arrest. So I think it is technically a direct capture.
EDIT: The exact wording on whether the original tip was based off The Hunt's broadcast does make this rather awkward.
Post by Scumhunter on Aug 14, 2016 19:50:18 GMT -5
I guess where it gets murky is John Walsh said "the renewed attention to the case generated a tip", not "a tip came into The Hunt" or "The Hunt generated a tip". So the tip might not have necessarily came in to the show itself.
I'm not trying to be difficult. In fact, I'm just trying to be careful I'm not being overly generous by wanting so badly to give The Hunt credit LOL.
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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 14, 2016 19:52:43 GMT -5
Just saw your edit LOL. That's where I'm torn. If Williamsdad logs in again and tells us to credit The Hunt, we'll credit The Hunt.
We can say this, even if The Hunt wasn't the direct reason for Ponce's capture, it certainly did nothing but help in making the public more aware of William Angel's tragic death and the search for Ponce. So for that, the show should still be thanked.
Post by Scumhunter on Aug 14, 2016 19:55:19 GMT -5
P.S. You are right though that one can make the argument that AMW took credit sometimes for random reasons even if they didn't receive the tip. Right now the official website doesn't take credit so I'll wait to see if that updates.
The reply I got from Wade Angel was the tip that in a roundabout way led to Ponce's capture was actually from his findchrisponce.com website but that The Hunt had an impact.
So it's probable that whoever that tipster was knew about the case because of the Hunt, but because it wasn't the show that generated the tip plus the roundabout way in which Ponce was captured I am going to say officially indirect but the Hunt deserves partial credit at least.
My Facebook is acting funny on my phone so if Williamsdad reads this before I can get to a laptop to thank him there, thank you for the answer!
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 14, 2016 4:56:44 GMT -5
According to an update on the Find Chris Ponce page on Facebook, Spain plans on potentially prosecuting Ponce for being an illegal alien with a false identity. While this could mean even more jail time for Ponce before being sent back here, it would further delay prosecuting Ponce here in the U.S. when the Angel family just wants the case over with.
The good news is according to the page, Ponce would still be deported if convicted and/or after serving his sentence if given jail time, but obviously they are hoping for a quicker resolution and want him back in the states ASAP.
Post by Scumhunter on Sept 16, 2016 4:25:46 GMT -5
Details of the Ponce capture had a major media article in Spain today.
Copying and pasting a summary from someone who posted on the Find Chris Ponce page on Facebook since it was well detailed LOL:
the gist is that he ran to Mexico and once there he got a fake passport with the name Valentin. He then flew to Madrid Spain where he sold fake watches for money. He would tell ppl he was from Mexico even tho he had a funny accent.
He was detained casually in a bus station in Almeria with his girlfriend who did not know his true Identity. He was caught because a cop noticed him running to the bathroom after Chris saw a security guard and found it suspicious.
When asked for his ID all he gave them was a transportation card for madrid (bus pass?) If he would have had his fake passport they would have let him go. They ran his fingerprints and saw that he had an international order of detention and extradition to florida.
He then told the Spanish cops of what happened and said he ran because he was going to have to spend 15 years in prison.
When his parents found out of the capture they flew to Spain to visit their son.
Some investigators think that they have been helping their son through an orthodontist friend they have in spain.
Chris awaits extradition that could take months. In the meantime he teaches English Philosophy to the inmates.