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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 18, 2019 10:06:33 GMT -5
Yeah it should be obvious but I wanted to clarify it's Alexis Flores I fear possible giving up on. I can't imagine this Brown manhunt going on for much longer- he's in a general vicinity like Eric Frein was. And by much longer I mean I don't see Brown still at large at the end of the year. It took about a month and a half to capture Eric Frein which is relatively short yet people were acting like he was on the run for seven years. But to speed things up, the Marshals are also involved in the chase so if they can't add him to the top 10 list they can add him to the Top 15 USMS list instead.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Nov 18, 2019 12:40:31 GMT -5
I think it’s interesting Michael Brown has an FBI poster citing only the marshals reward (which I would understand since both agencies are chasing him) but also it’s been 8 months now since the most recent FBI Top Ten capture back in March of this year.
Another thing I’m curious about is, if Michael Brown is facing charges for desertion?
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 18, 2019 18:53:24 GMT -5
He's considered AWOL and a deserter, don't quote me on this but I think he was already AWOL before he allegedly murdered Rodney Brown. Usually you are charged for that, but that's probably the least of Brown's concerns right now considering what else he's accused of.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 21, 2019 22:17:30 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 22, 2019 3:30:56 GMT -5
Also, U.S. Marshals have sent a warning since unbelievably, Brown apparently has supporters on social media, they are warming every tip is being looked into and anyone who tries to help or harbor Brown in any way may face charges. Apparently some of the comments are calling him "Hide-and-seek champion" and/or asking where he is so they can collect the $10,000 reward. This is a bit ridiculous and it it needs to be reminded Randy Brown lost his life and there needs to be justice for him. And not taking away from the tragedy but to be honest I'm more upset at how hacky and unoriginal the hide-and-seek comments are than the lack of sensitivity. I've seen that joke for literally every high publicity manhunt that lasts longer than five days and the users need to get new material. And another thing, I understand if I lived in the Roanoke area, I'd be pretty impatient and wanting my life to get back to normal already but before the explosion of social media, breaking-news fugitive manhunts always took up to a month and not only a few days. While some exceptions exist (such as Robert Fisher unfortunately), Brown is within the time frame of a normal amount of time it takes to capture a high-publicity breaking news fugitive. The problem is in this internet-era where people have everything at their fingertips right away, they think everything only takes 5 seconds when police work doesn't work that way. They are chasing someone who doesn't want to be caught, and therefore there will always be a bit of a challenge in that regard. Unless Brown is still at large at this time next year, he's not a hide-and-seek champion, but the average breaking news fugitive that is relatively decent at hiding for an extended short period of time. I really hope this doesn't get to a Bucky Phillips-type hysteria where people start celebrating the guy. Michael Brown's alleged actions have had a serious emotional trauma on both Randy Brown's family and his own family and this is is a serious and not laughing matter. wset.com/news/local/imwithhim-us-marshals-send-warning-after-social-media-shows-support-for-murder-suspect
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 22, 2019 3:35:27 GMT -5
I just checked to find out why Brown exactly has supporters on social media and apparently there are social media rumors about why Michael was allegedly upset with Randy and I will not entertain those rumors here since the man is no longer alive to defend himself against the social media accusations.
I stress I'm not referring to this case but there have been fugitive cases where I didn't exactly feel bad for the victim. For example, cases where the victim was a gang banger. I still didn't condone the act, even if I didn't feel sorry for the victim. Especially since in gang banger cases, a bullet meant for them could have hit an innocent bystander. The gang banger was still the technical victim, even if I didn't feel sorry for them.
Obviously a different type of case here but there is no way to condone murder unless done in self-defense.
All I see are people condoning Michael Brown's actions while Randy's family isn't getting a chance to defend himself, when in this particular case he is the victim. That's not to say perhaps there's some reason to be sympathetic for Brown because of life circumstances or saying he's a victim in his own right, but in this particular case Randy Brown is the victim and Brown is the alleged suspect.
You can not feel sorry for a victim (based on what you assume to be the facts) and still not condone murder, the two don't have to be mutually exclusive.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 22, 2019 5:02:24 GMT -5
Also sorry one more thing before I get off my soapbox.. some media are reporting the motive is that Brown was upset when he found out Randy was not his real father which he had been lead to believe for his entire life. They are implying that as a possible motive rather than the one(s) spread on social media.
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 26, 2019 15:01:35 GMT -5
Media reports are- as we see too often- erroneously reporting that Brown has been added to the FBI's Most Wanted list. Once again he is on the FBI overall fugitive website and is part of their overall most wanted fugitives for murder, but is not on the top 10 list! At least not for now. There's also apparently a Facebook group in support of Brown. Brown like all suspects- is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law- but he needs to tell his story in a court of law. Anyone supporting him needs to recognize even Brown's own mother and family is pleading for him to surrender. They obviously know him better than his "supporters" so those supporting should take Brown's own family's feelings into account. The problem is the longer this goes on, the more potential exists that Michael's family may lose him as well instead of having him alive to support through whatever happens next which is why he needs to turn himself in. This is also as I feared unfortunately reaching Bucky Phillips-like infamy, perhaps even worse since social media wasn't as massive then as it is now. heavy.com/news/2019/11/michael-alexander-brown/
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 27, 2019 10:08:42 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 27, 2019 14:29:54 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Nov 29, 2019 0:44:13 GMT -5
I can state it now since it is public record in articles and not just internet chatter that in 2006, Rodney Brown was accused of child abuse/neglect and had the charges dropped. Still, that doesn't explain the motive as to why Randy was shot, allegedly by Michael Brown and a lot of assumptions are being made in that regard. The reason Michael shot him (allegedly) could have had nothing to do with that for all we know, and we should wait for all the facts to come out in trial. Additionally, internet posters tried to claim Randy Brown was accused of child molestation and stated he was a child molester. Not that child abuse and neglect are ok, albeit the charges were dropped, but the article don't state anything about child molestation, so this is another reason I try to stay away from people say on social media unless it is stated in official news articles. Michael Brown is innocent until proven guilty. It seems rather obvious he shot Randy in my opinion, perhaps he has some sort of self-defense claim, but all that should come out in the trial once again. www.wsls.com/news/local/2019/11/26/child-abuse-charges-dropped-against-michael-browns-alleged-victim-in-2006/
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Post by ninja108 on Dec 1, 2019 1:40:10 GMT -5
I can state it now since it is public record in articles and not just internet chatter that in 2006, Rodney Brown was accused of child abuse/neglect and had the charges dropped. Still, that doesn't explain the motive as to why Randy was shot, allegedly by Michael Brown and a lot of assumptions are being made in that regard. The reason Michael shot him (allegedly) could have had nothing to do with that for all we know, and we should wait for all the facts to come out in trial. Additionally, internet posters tried to claim Randy Brown was accused of child molestation and stated he was a child molester. Not that child abuse and neglect are ok, albeit the charges were dropped, but the article don't state anything about child molestation, so this is another reason I try to stay away from people say on social media unless it is stated in official news articles. Michael Brown is innocent until proven guilty. It seems rather obvious he shot Randy in my opinion, perhaps he has some sort of self-defense claim, but all that should come out in the trial once again. www.wsls.com/news/local/2019/11/26/child-abuse-charges-dropped-against-michael-browns-alleged-victim-in-2006/Have to be honest on this one. Even if Rodney Brown DID do the things that some folks on the internet alleged he did,unless Micheal Brown was acting in self defense,there is no excuse for what he did. No one has the right to be judge,jury and executioner on another person,even if that person is scum. Because that opens up a whole can of worms you can't put back in.
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Post by Scumhunter on Dec 1, 2019 1:47:41 GMT -5
Totally. There have been cases where I didn't feel sorry for the victim. I stress am NOT saying that's the case here, I don't know enough about Randy or Michael to assume anything but like cases where the victim is like a gang banging murderer himself, but I also cannot condone murder at the same time. You can not feel sorry for a victim and still not condone murder.
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Post by ninja108 on Dec 10, 2019 0:02:56 GMT -5
Totally. There have been cases where I didn't feel sorry for the victim. I stress am NOT saying that's the case here, I don't know enough about Randy or Michael to assume anything but like cases where the victim is like a gang banging murderer himself, but I also cannot condone murder at the same time. You can not feel sorry for a victim and still not condone murder. There was a case in my neck of the woods where a convicted child abuser was shot to death after arguing with his neighbor. The neighbor waited until his back was turned and then shot him. I didn't feel sad at all that a person like that died but did I support the prison sentence the neighbor got? Yes I did because(we don't know if that was the case here)because my viewpoint on saying it's okay to let someone walk if the victim is bad is that it might start with truly evil people but it won't end there. In this case,we don't know if Randy is truly guilty of what folks claim he did or not but even if he was,unless Michael's life was in danger,he deserves to go to prison,simple as that.
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